Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think the police near some responsibility for this? They left this vulnerable, mentally unstable woman with a man they knew was also mentally unstable and verbally/physically attacking her. Shortly thereafter, he kills her.

We need something better than the police for these mental health calls.

Yes.

I don't think they are responsible for what eventually happened because the police cannot stop individual humans who aren't breaking the law from making bad choices. They could not force them apart, it would have been inappropriate to follow them around etc.

I think what they ARE responsible for is chumming it up with him and acting like she was a lunatic. Even if the only result was her leaving that encounter feeling like everyone would always think she was the crazy one then they did her wrong.

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Bodycam of incident 8/12 - you be the judge. It's long but watch in spurts. Gabby's mother spoke out about this incident, and sugar coated it as a nothingburger, lovers spat. She also stated in various press comments that her mother's instinct is telling her that Gabby will come home.

https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc

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Anonymous wrote:Over an hour of police body cam footage:

After watching this, she was clearly having some mental health issues. She admitted she was. It sounded like van life and Youtube were her dream and it wasn't going well. It also sounded like she was taking her frustrations out on him. What if she killed herself or it was an accidental death and he was scared they would think it was him? He didn't know what to do, so he went home and got legal counsel. He knew her family would blame him and accuse him of foul play. I'm not saying he didn't kill her, but the boyfriend always gets blamed.

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They are just waiting for his confession.

Even if he didn't kill her, he abandoned her somewhere and maybe with someone. How can you come home and not even report that she is missing.

Is this one of those crazy stories that comes out later as she ran away with some dude and was left behind. So, he went home and don't bother reporting it.

[Anonymous]

so much to read through...wasn't there 2 other people that were killed around where they visited?

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Anonymous wrote:They are just waiting for his confession.

Even if he didn't kill her, he abandoned her somewhere and maybe with someone. How can you come home and not even report that she is missing.

Is this one of those crazy stories that comes out later as she ran away with some dude and was left behind. So, he went home and don't bother reporting it.

it was her van, If he abandoned her than he stole it and still faces jail

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Was she bi-polar? I think I read that somewhere in this thread. My DS dated a woman who was/is bi polar, very tough for anyone to be a companion to, needs a special breed of patience and deep commitment. This guy was not that guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the whole video, just skipped through it. Why does he get the comfy motel but she doesn't? At the end officer recommends a place where she can shower up for $5. Why didn't he put her in a hotel too? Especially after she tells him that she doesn't usually drive the van, and she appears to be nervous about driving on her own. I wish at this time she called her mom and told her what was going on. Then made plans to just come back home.

The part why he gets a hotel room and she does not does seem very bizarre I don't know if it had to do with him determined as the "victim" in the police encounter

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Anonymous wrote:so much to read through...wasn't there 2 other people that were killed around where they visited?

Yes, see post at 12:03

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the whole video, just skipped through it. Why does he get the comfy motel but she doesn't? At the end officer recommends a place where she can shower up for $5. Why didn't he put her in a hotel too? Especially after she tells him that she doesn't usually drive the van, and she appears to be nervous about driving on her own. I wish at this time she called her mom and told her what was going on. Then made plans to just come back home.

The part why he gets a hotel room and she does not does seem very bizarre I don't know if it had to do with him determined as the "victim" in the police encounter

Yes because they can't put the "aggressor" up with funds meant for DV victims. The alternative was that she spends the night in jail and he sleeps in the van.

I think they are both mentally unstable and there is no good reason for him not to have immediately reported her missing.

Also -I can't get over the extraordinary white privilege of that traffic stop. Imagine white cops chumming around with a Black man while they work together to figure out how to keep everyone out of jail. WOULD.NEVER.HAPPEN

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Also -I can't get over the extraordinary white privilege of that traffic stop. Imagine white cops chumming around with a Black man while they work together to figure out how to keep everyone out of jail. WOULD.NEVER.HAPPEN

100 percent agree. I though the police's interactions with him were weird.

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Without requoting, I'll answer pp questions since I watched bodycam vid in entirety.

Yes, there was a married couple shot to death in same area on a local trail/camping site. The oddest thing is Gabby and Brian were arguing outside a bar or establishment where one of the murdered women was employed. Someone contacted police because their fight outside escalated to her attempting to slap him, he blocked it and she scratched him.

Police tailed the van which was speeding. Sirens on, the van swerved and hit curb. They're separated and reports taken. Both of their stories aligned. She admits to causing him (driver) to swerve because she was punching his arm. She admitted to slapping him outside the bar because she wanted him to stop telling her to calm down. Some guy named Chris who witnessed it reported them fearing a DV situation.

She was escorted to back of one police SUV, he was asked to stand outside. She was allowed to call her parents and she sobbed the entire hour while things were being sorted out. Officer Robinson offered them an alternative to filing a domestic dispute violation against HER. Took pics of his scratches on neck and hand. Suggested they separate for the night. I'm also shocked he sent Brian to a hotel and sent her off in van with cool down instrux and no contact until morning. She asked officer if hotel was close because she doesn't drive long distance alone. He refused to tell her the name of hotel, but assured her it was just a few minutes away. Not sure where she set off to. That part wasn't clear. The part that was clear is she remained on her phone with mom or dad or both the entire time.

The officer driove Brian to hotel, and they had a casual, friendly chat in SUV. It was a little too personal imo. I imagine Officer Robinson is overwhelmed with guilt and possibly very involved on the Colorado side of investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are just waiting for his confession.

Even if he didn't kill her, he abandoned her somewhere and maybe with someone. How can you come home and not even report that she is missing.

Is this one of those crazy stories that comes out later as she ran away with some dude and was left behind. So, he went home and don't bother reporting it.

She probably killed herself.

She was clearly quite mentally ill from her behavior in that video.

If she killed herself, it explains exactly why her boyfriend is behaving the way he is and wisely listening to his lawyer.

I would vote to acquit (if it even goes that far).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are just waiting for his confession.

Even if he didn't kill her, he abandoned her somewhere and maybe with someone. How can you come home and not even report that she is missing.

Is this one of those crazy stories that comes out later as she ran away with some dude and was left behind. So, he went home and don't bother reporting it.

She probably killed herself.

She was clearly quite mentally ill from her behavior in that video.

If she killed herself, it explains exactly why her boyfriend is behaving the way he is and wisely listening to his lawyer.

I would vote to acquit (if it even goes that far).

then why wouldn't he call her parents after he discovered the body? Or even just his? Why would he tell no one and drive HER van across the country to FL without talking to anyone about what happened?

Who just leaves the body of their loved one behind, like it's nothing and no big deal, if they really had nothing to do with their death?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without requoting, I'll answer pp questions since I watched bodycam vid in entirety.

Yes, there was a married couple shot to death in same area on a local trail/camping site. The oddest thing is Gabby and Brian were arguing outside a bar or establishment where one of the murdered women was employed. Someone contacted police because their fight outside escalated to her attempting to slap him, he blocked it and she scratched him.

Police tailed the van which was speeding. Sirens on, the van swerved and hit curb. They're separated and reports taken. Both of their stories aligned. She admits to causing him (driver) to swerve because she was punching his arm. She admitted to slapping him outside the bar because she wanted him to stop telling her to calm down. Some guy named Chris who witnessed it reported them fearing a DV situation.

She was escorted to back of one police SUV, he was asked to stand outside. She was allowed to call her parents and she sobbed the entire hour while things were being sorted out. Officer Robinson offered them an alternative to filing a domestic dispute violation against HER. Took pics of his scratches on neck and hand. Suggested they separate for the night. I'm also shocked he sent Brian to a hotel and sent her off in van with cool down instrux and no contact until morning. She asked officer if hotel was close because she doesn't drive long distance alone. He refused to tell her the name of hotel, but assured her it was just a few minutes away. Not sure where she set off to. That part wasn't clear. The part that was clear is she remained on her phone with mom or dad or both the entire time.

The officer driove Brian to hotel, and they had a casual, friendly chat in SUV. It was a little too personal imo. I imagine Officer Robinson is overwhelmed with guilt and possibly very involved on the Colorado side of investigation.

Did she actually call? I feel so bad for her parents. Note to parents: if your young adult daughter ever calls you sobbing about domestic violence and a police visit, hop on a plane to collect her asap. Do not let her return to her abuser. He will probably try to kill her eventually.