Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


...because he knows that there is no urgency to the finding his girlfriend since he knows she is dead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


...because he knows that there is no urgency to the finding his girlfriend since he knows she is dead.


Well, yeah. No body, no one around but them in a van, and 12 states as a jurisdiction he has a 50/50 chance of walking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


And every other innocent person in the world would say, here’s what happened, here’s my phone, and here’s the location I last saw her, I’m extremely worried that someone I care about has gone missing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


because there are a lot of things that could have happened to her after they parted ways. If they don't find a murder weapon and he stays quiet, it'll be hard to get him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.


Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


And every other innocent person in the world would say, here’s what happened, here’s my phone, and here’s the location I last saw her, I’m extremely worried that someone I care about has gone missing.


Ha. Remember when that police officer took a hiker on a date, abandoned her and then reported her missing four hours later?

His job is literally to serve and protect, he didn’t kill the chick and even he had the same instinct for self-preservation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


And every other innocent person in the world would say, here’s what happened, here’s my phone, and here’s the location I last saw her, I’m extremely worried that someone I care about has gone missing.


Ha. Remember when that police officer took a hiker on a date, abandoned her and then reported her missing four hours later?

His job is literally to serve and protect, he didn’t kill the chick and even he had the same instinct for self-preservation.


Your counterpoint is the cop who abandoned a first date on a hike which caused her death?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.


Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.


I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…


And every other innocent person in the world would say, here’s what happened, here’s my phone, and here’s the location I last saw her, I’m extremely worried that someone I care about has gone missing.


Ha. Remember when that police officer took a hiker on a date, abandoned her and then reported her missing four hours later?

His job is literally to serve and protect, he didn’t kill the chick and even he had the same instinct for self-preservation.


Your counterpoint is the cop who abandoned a first date on a hike which caused her death?


Yes. He obviously didn’t do everything he could to preserve life and that’s his job. I would not expect this aimless bum living in a van with a 22-year-old to have better morales.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.


Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.


I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.


Wait — how is that NOT weird? They left together, they come back together. At the very least he could have texted her family - hey Becca and I are parting ways but I’d appreciate you coming to check on her in Utah since the van is mine and I have to get on the road.

He totally killed her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.


Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.


I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.


She was clearly in regular contact with her family, particularly her mother. Let's entertain the break up theory: breaking up with your fiance is a big deal, and would be even more devastating while out in the middle of nowhere, far away from your family. It makes sense that she would contact her mother about something like that; I'm talking a phone call. It looks like that did not happen. I bet her mother was trying to contact her for those two weeks, including contacting the fiance. Something as big as ending an engagement would be made known before seemingly unceremoniously showing up back in FL without your fiancee.


Anonymous
80% chance he walks. It sounds like he has a bit of money to be able to afford an attorney. He likely already destroyed and disposed of his and her phones a long time ago, so cops wont have that evidence to use. He will claim that she decided to break up with him during the trip and she decided to hitchhike. The van was owned by him, IIRC.

The van will have her DNA all over it, but likely nothing that indicates a crime. He most likely killed her outside the van.

The police will retrace his route by looking at his transactions (he probably didn't pay for gas in cash on a cross country drive) and the mobile phone tower pings. Whenever he shut off the phones, that's likely when she died.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.


I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.


Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.


Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.


Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.


Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.


I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.


Wait — how is that NOT weird? They left together, they come back together. At the very least he could have texted her family - hey Becca and I are parting ways but I’d appreciate you coming to check on her in Utah since the van is mine and I have to get on the road.

He totally killed her.


If he was selling the "we broke up" story, he would cooperate with the police. Because they best way to clear his name would be to find her, correct? Unless he killed her. Then not finding her helps him. Which is why he's not cooperating.
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