War with Iran Part II

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If only Trump spent as much energy as he does manipulating the markets on literally anything else
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The experts have been saying this for a while. The US will be forced to leave the region. Iran is the new power in the region. Good luck UAE!

The missile threat is too great to maintain these bases. The US has 27 bases in the ME all for the defense of Israel. Before the war operating these bases was about 1/3 of our total defense spending. We spent less on NATO vs the cost of these bases for Israel.



You're funny. The purposes of those military bases are to secure oil routes, protect allies, counter terrorism, and deter Iran and other regional threats under the US Central Command (CENTCOM) framework. Yes, Israel is one of those allies - but so is the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Egypt, Oman, and Jordan. Your fixation on and hatred of Israel is noted.


So wait, two things:

1) Which are those other regional threats that you think so highly of?
2) Without the Israel mafia, the US wouldn't need to ally with any of those other countries.

Stop moving goalposts and arguing about third order effects that only manifest because of the initial problem: Israel.


Sorry, what? Ever heard of Iranian-backed proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis? Sure you have. All three pose a threat to our ME allies, listed above. Interesting that you completely ignore the Iranian mafia, but not surprising.


Again, those are third order problems... That begin and end with Israel.


Oh, BS. The Iranian “mafia” has been terrorizing the ME and US for decades.


9/11 was from our friend Saudi Arabia.


Not even talking about 9/11. Referring to all the terrorism, bombings, kidnappings, suicide bombings, etc. targeting US citizens, military personnel, and diplomatic facilities by Iran and its terrorist proxies. Keep up.


did this happen before the 1953 coup orchestrated by the CIA on behalf of BP??? I know that for us, that is so long ago and who cares but Iranians have been on a 75 year long odyssey of oppression since then and yes, the shah regime was also horrific and oppressive and he wasn't a king like Charles- he was US installed dictator who was called king b/c Iranians are culturally super bougie so it sounded better. this is all Blowback, we did something truly horrible and we have to bear the consequences somewhat for what our government did, that isn't saying teh Iranians government doesnt suck- they do- but it is our fault. the CIA's decisions to arm mullahs in the postcolonial period has really bad consequences.


Add in the Allies killed 1/3-1/2 of Iran’s population during WW2. Iran has only responded to US and Israel attacks. That is the response of a state not a terrorist. I just do not understand the Israeli obsession with Iran. It is truly nuts.


I am surprised Pakistan is not on Israel and the Us’s radar instead of Iran. Unlike Iran, Pakistan actually does have nuclear weapons and it has a bigger population than all the Arab nations and Iran combined. I guess it’s because India is Pakistans enemy not sure but didn’t they tell us Osama bin Laden was hiding there? In a nuclear armed country?

Also, the Pakistani intel agencies have a close relationship with the CIA and Mossad. A long time ago,some Mossad agents were caught with Pakistani passports in Mexico City. The story was buried. President Obama also spent a summer in Pakistan in the 80s allegedly as a cia intern. Who knows??

My guess is Iran is more of a threat to Israel because Iran is more vocal about Palestine and has expansionist goals (Shia crescent) in the Levant just like Israel does. Hezbollah alone has prevented Israel from occupying Lebanon completely Ala the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Israel’s end game is to extend from Saudi Arabia to Cyprus. It’s a pipe dream but that’s their dream
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The experts have been saying this for a while. The US will be forced to leave the region. Iran is the new power in the region. Good luck UAE!

The missile threat is too great to maintain these bases. The US has 27 bases in the ME all for the defense of Israel. Before the war operating these bases was about 1/3 of our total defense spending. We spent less on NATO vs the cost of these bases for Israel.



You're funny. The purposes of those military bases are to secure oil routes, protect allies, counter terrorism, and deter Iran and other regional threats under the US Central Command (CENTCOM) framework. Yes, Israel is one of those allies - but so is the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Egypt, Oman, and Jordan. Your fixation on and hatred of Israel is noted.


So wait, two things:

1) Which are those other regional threats that you think so highly of?
2) Without the Israel mafia, the US wouldn't need to ally with any of those other countries.

Stop moving goalposts and arguing about third order effects that only manifest because of the initial problem: Israel.


Sorry, what? Ever heard of Iranian-backed proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis? Sure you have. All three pose a threat to our ME allies, listed above. Interesting that you completely ignore the Iranian mafia, but not surprising.


Again, those are third order problems... That begin and end with Israel.


Oh, BS. The Iranian “mafia” has been terrorizing the ME and US for decades.


9/11 was from our friend Saudi Arabia.


Not even talking about 9/11. Referring to all the terrorism, bombings, kidnappings, suicide bombings, etc. targeting US citizens, military personnel, and diplomatic facilities by Iran and its terrorist proxies. Keep up.


did this happen before the 1953 coup orchestrated by the CIA on behalf of BP??? I know that for us, that is so long ago and who cares but Iranians have been on a 75 year long odyssey of oppression since then and yes, the shah regime was also horrific and oppressive and he wasn't a king like Charles- he was US installed dictator who was called king b/c Iranians are culturally super bougie so it sounded better. this is all Blowback, we did something truly horrible and we have to bear the consequences somewhat for what our government did, that isn't saying teh Iranians government doesnt suck- they do- but it is our fault. the CIA's decisions to arm mullahs in the postcolonial period has really bad consequences.


Add in the Allies killed 1/3-1/2 of Iran’s population during WW2. Iran has only responded to US and Israel attacks. That is the response of a state not a terrorist. I just do not understand the Israeli obsession with Iran. It is truly nuts.


Maybe it’s that Iran funded Hezbollah? Just a thought.

Again you sound pretty dumb when you fail to understand the basic geopolitics.

And of course you sound naive or worse when you pretend like Iran is a happy happy joy joy nation.


Iran dos seem like a happy happy joy joy nation because at least it seems like a nation of courage. The people are on the streets singing their natioank anthem and still crying about the dead schoolgirls. When our kids get killed in school shootings? Do we even remember the names? Do you not see the way they lionize their military and fallen? Meanwhile our government doesn’t even want to show the coffins coming back and are hiding the casualties. I see more pride flags than Us flags these days. There’s no nationalism or hope in this country anymore. Just doom and gloom
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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like Trump has moved on from the war and he’s just gonna keep the status quo? Iran is making Bank. I’m sure Trump found a way to get his cut.


It’s not just you. The economy is going down the toilet because of this war. But Trump is pretending like it’s over and he won. Unfortunately he didn’t do that in the first 2 hours. So the Strait is blocked and billions are being spent but Trump is focused on his arch and his ballroom.


He just said the Navy is going to start clearing the Strait.


Clear the strait how? Bombing tankers and placing a chokehold on tankers will blow up the economy and what’s left of our defense budget which has failed to build proper submarines and a naval defense to counter the Chinese. This is Trumps Achilles heel. Iran played it smart knowing trumps weakness and biggest fear is an economic depression. He does not want to go down like Bush.
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The experts have been saying this for a while. The US will be forced to leave the region. Iran is the new power in the region. Good luck UAE!

The missile threat is too great to maintain these bases. The US has 27 bases in the ME all for the defense of Israel. Before the war operating these bases was about 1/3 of our total defense spending. We spent less on NATO vs the cost of these bases for Israel.



You're funny. The purposes of those military bases are to secure oil routes, protect allies, counter terrorism, and deter Iran and other regional threats under the US Central Command (CENTCOM) framework. Yes, Israel is one of those allies - but so is the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Egypt, Oman, and Jordan. Your fixation on and hatred of Israel is noted.


So wait, two things:

1) Which are those other regional threats that you think so highly of?
2) Without the Israel mafia, the US wouldn't need to ally with any of those other countries.

Stop moving goalposts and arguing about third order effects that only manifest because of the initial problem: Israel.


Sorry, what? Ever heard of Iranian-backed proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis? Sure you have. All three pose a threat to our ME allies, listed above. Interesting that you completely ignore the Iranian mafia, but not surprising.


Again, those are third order problems... That begin and end with Israel.


Oh, BS. The Iranian “mafia” has been terrorizing the ME and US for decades.


9/11 was from our friend Saudi Arabia.


Not even talking about 9/11. Referring to all the terrorism, bombings, kidnappings, suicide bombings, etc. targeting US citizens, military personnel, and diplomatic facilities by Iran and its terrorist proxies. Keep up.


did this happen before the 1953 coup orchestrated by the CIA on behalf of BP??? I know that for us, that is so long ago and who cares but Iranians have been on a 75 year long odyssey of oppression since then and yes, the shah regime was also horrific and oppressive and he wasn't a king like Charles- he was US installed dictator who was called king b/c Iranians are culturally super bougie so it sounded better. this is all Blowback, we did something truly horrible and we have to bear the consequences somewhat for what our government did, that isn't saying teh Iranians government doesnt suck- they do- but it is our fault. the CIA's decisions to arm mullahs in the postcolonial period has really bad consequences.


Add in the Allies killed 1/3-1/2 of Iran’s population during WW2. Iran has only responded to US and Israel attacks. That is the response of a state not a terrorist. I just do not understand the Israeli obsession with Iran. It is truly nuts.


I am surprised Pakistan is not on Israel and the Us’s radar instead of Iran. Unlike Iran, Pakistan actually does have nuclear weapons and it has a bigger population than all the Arab nations and Iran combined. I guess it’s because India is Pakistans enemy not sure but didn’t they tell us Osama bin Laden was hiding there? In a nuclear armed country?

Also, the Pakistani intel agencies have a close relationship with the CIA and Mossad. A long time ago,some Mossad agents were caught with Pakistani passports in Mexico City. The story was buried. President Obama also spent a summer in Pakistan in the 80s allegedly as a cia intern. Who knows??

My guess is Iran is more of a threat to Israel because Iran is more vocal about Palestine and has expansionist goals (Shia crescent) in the Levant just like Israel does. Hezbollah alone has prevented Israel from occupying Lebanon completely Ala the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Israel’s end game is to extend from Saudi Arabia to Cyprus. It’s a pipe dream but that’s their dream


Netanyahu is on record saying that Pakistan is a problem that needs to be dealt with.

As for the false flag being conducted in Mexico city by Mossad, I don't think Pakistan was in on it.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like Trump has moved on from the war and he’s just gonna keep the status quo? Iran is making Bank. I’m sure Trump found a way to get his cut.


It’s not just you. The economy is going down the toilet because of this war. But Trump is pretending like it’s over and he won. Unfortunately he didn’t do that in the first 2 hours. So the Strait is blocked and billions are being spent but Trump is focused on his arch and his ballroom.


He just said the Navy is going to start clearing the Strait.


Clear the strait how? Bombing tankers and placing a chokehold on tankers will blow up the economy and what’s left of our defense budget which has failed to build proper submarines and a naval defense to counter the Chinese. This is Trumps Achilles heel. Iran played it smart knowing trumps weakness and biggest fear is an economic depression. He does not want to go down like Bush.

I don’t know but I think this is going to be bad. Iran was mining the strait as recently as yesterday.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like Trump has moved on from the war and he’s just gonna keep the status quo? Iran is making Bank. I’m sure Trump found a way to get his cut.


It’s not just you. The economy is going down the toilet because of this war. But Trump is pretending like it’s over and he won. Unfortunately he didn’t do that in the first 2 hours. So the Strait is blocked and billions are being spent but Trump is focused on his arch and his ballroom.


He just said the Navy is going to start clearing the Strait.


This seems much too coherent without the usual random capitalization, spelling/grammatical errors, and denigration of all and sundry to have been written by Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:If only Trump spent as much energy as he does manipulating the markets on literally anything else


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This entire gambit of “clearing the strait” is a play to trade on oil prices. I’m surprised it still works.
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Such great lengths to avoid the word “war”. Congress is letting him make a mockery of them. I guess now we have a “Department of That Which Takes Place”.
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Anonymous wrote:US warship attacked as it tries to enter the Strait.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/5/4/iran-war-live-tehran-says-trumps-hormuz-mission-violates-ceasefire

I guess it’s fair game, since we attack and obliterate small boats in the middle of the Caribbean
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The scariest part about this debacle of a war is that we’ve depleted our weapons stockpile and will not be able to replenish it without China’s permission. If China decided to refuse the sell of the material and minerals needed for the weapons, the weapons cannot be manufactured. China controls 95% of the necessary components needed for the missiles, tomahawks, javelins, THAAD, etc. How did our country allow itself to become so dependent on China for damn near everything.
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Anonymous wrote:US warship attacked as it tries to enter the Strait.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/5/4/iran-war-live-tehran-says-trumps-hormuz-mission-violates-ceasefire


US Central Command (Centcom) denied that one of its warships trying to pass through the strait of Hormuz had been struck by Iranian missiles.
Centcom said no US Navy ships have been struck

???!!!

Which is true
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