McLean leaving FVU

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

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The McLean 2014s are not a super strong team like their predecessor. They are very beatable and will not dominate FVU tryouts.

I guess that answers the question: The MYS 2014s will have to stay at MYS because the Valor girls will be taking all the spots at FVU. They couldn't get onto an ECNL team even if they wanted.

I've seen up close both teams play this past season. Valor is stronger. No dog in this fight -- my DD does not play for either team. Just calling it like I see it.

I concur with this assessment. Valor looks much stronger than MYS this year. The one thing to consider is the tight relationship between McLean 2014 and the FVU coaches giving McLean the recruitment edge, but def not the strongest team out there.

Interesting... rankings app seems to think much more highly of the MYS team vs the Valor team, though they have almost no opponents in common. Both teams have had good wins and some bad losses this season. Rankings app says the last time they played each other was last April when it was a 7-1 game.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Keep trying to make fetch happen by saying over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

The 13’s McLean team left GA for FVU and are now the best team. The stronger 12’s GA players are now migrating to ECNL. The 11’s migrated last year. It seems the actual stronger players do not agree with you. Not that any of this really matters. Forget about league and just worry about your DC’s development.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

Growing or small and selective? How does that work?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

From the link you posted…


Side by side:

GA ideal for players aiming for national teams and top NCAA.

ECNL ideal for players wide-ranging players seeking competitive play at a national level.

Who wrote this? The GA BOD or a group of GA parents?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

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Side by side:

GA ideal for players aiming for national teams and top NCAA.

ECNL ideal for players wide-ranging players seeking competitive play at a national level.

Who wrote this? The GA BOD or a group of GA parents?

Also “holistic environment”? What does that mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

Does ECNL want to be “growing”? I thought they wanted to be elite, not diluted.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

Does ECNL want to be “growing”? I thought they wanted to be elite, not diluted.

ECNL isn’t growing. It’s actually getting smaller. That’s pretty well documented.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

The 13’s McLean team left GA for FVU and are now the best team. The stronger 12’s GA players are now migrating to ECNL. The 11’s migrated last year. It seems the actual stronger players do not agree with you. Not that any of this really matters. Forget about league and just worry about your DC’s development.

You're comparing 2 grains of sand on a very large beach. Right now ECNL is stronger but it's slowly going the other way. 2011's and older might as well stick it out with ECNL as they'll get you through the next few years but younger than that should be looking at GA teams.

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The McLean 2014s are not a super strong team like their predecessor. They are very beatable and will not dominate FVU tryouts.

I guess that answers the question: The MYS 2014s will have to stay at MYS because the Valor girls will be taking all the spots at FVU. They couldn't get onto an ECNL team even if they wanted.

I've seen up close both teams play this past season. Valor is stronger. No dog in this fight -- my DD does not play for either team. Just calling it like I see it.

I concur with this assessment. Valor looks much stronger than MYS this year. The one thing to consider is the tight relationship between McLean 2014 and the FVU coaches giving McLean the recruitment edge, but def not the strongest team out there.

Interesting... rankings app seems to think much more highly of the MYS team vs the Valor team, though they have almost no opponents in common. Both teams have had good wins and some bad losses this season. Rankings app says the last time they played each other was last April when it was a 7-1 game.

This is not the same Valor team as before. They are playing really well. MYS 2014 is mostly playing low level 2013 tournaments and patting themselves on the back for it. Not impressed.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Herndon not have any pre-ECNL teams in boys or girls?
As one of the FVU feeder clubs, seems odd they have none.

That is weird if they can’t even field Pre-ECNL teams, but I guess feeder club doesn’t mean much.

It isnt trolling on the girls side, Valor has the best record of the dumpster fire of teams, it is fact. Herndon doesn’t have enough players to field teams. I am fairly certain if you add up the wins and losses of all of the feeder teams in pre ecnl, lets say for girls, it will triple the number of losses compared to wins. This is gut feel, but i bet someone will figure it out and tell me I am in the ballpark.

Valor girls are 3rd and 2nd for U11 and U12 pre ecnl. No other feeder team comes close to that level of performance. As long as FVU is not overrun by McLean 2014 girls jumping over than it is safe to say Valor is the top dog in FVU girls for the foreseeable future. So, yes -- Valor did help save FVU's butt. The rest of the feeder clubs are a joke.

I just know this person has some Busch Gardens (Valor vs Valor final) rec tournament medals displayed in their home.

How are you so stupid to not understand that there is no such thing as a "feeder team"? Its all marketing and you are a sucker. FVU will take the best players who try out regardless of whether they played rec, Valor, or any other club, "alliance" or not.

Valor's training is *terrible*. Their kids can't compete technically.

All of this is true. Valor does not emphasize technical skills at all. Their most successful team (2013 boys who are all gone now) was full of talented kids who would have done well anywhere and/or were doing outside training. Many Valor coaches rely on kids who are fast and athletic, which doesn’t work as well for 11v11 or against the truly skilled teams.

Don’t know how this thread got hijacked by Valor but let’s be fair. Valor is no different from any other club in the area. No club is leading in every age group in both genders. Valor has some strong teams and some (maybe more) weak teams. In addition to the girls mentioned (2015 in 3rd and 2014 in 2nd), their current 2011 boys are in 2nd place also.

That said, the majority of next year’s 2014 FVU girls roster will likely be filled by Mclean’s preGA and Q3 Q4 McLean and FVU 2013 girls. Sure the coaches may get early looks at the “alliance” clubs. But the McLean 2014 girls are generally better

This is what I have been speculating as well. However, I am curious as to why Mclean 2014s wouldnt stay with Mclean?

Not trying to start an ECNL vs GA flame war but the stigma is still there that ECNL is still a higher league than GA. The Mclean girls who are content with GA will stay. Those who want ECNl will tryout for FVU.

If your kid is under 15, GA is the way. ECNL will fizzle out in the next year or two now that MLS next and GA are aligned.

Just because you say it and want it to be true, doesn’t make it true.

I don't *want* it to be true. GA is just building itself to be better all across the board. It will take a few years but it's already growing while ECNL is shrinking.

https://ussoccerparent.com/girls-academy-vs-aspire-vs-ecnl-2025-26-guide/?srsltid=AfmBOopFEVRsgt3fL2GkPzpCIInv3nbdQZgn2iEvLEP4Z23dmJnUw4Kv

Does ECNL want to be “growing”? I thought they wanted to be elite, not diluted.

ECNL isn’t growing. It’s actually getting smaller. That’s pretty well documented.

So more elite?