Missing Muslim teen found dead in Fairfax County - suspect arrested

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you all take this inane debate to another thread?

While you all were debating about illegals, someone set fire to Nabra's memorial in Dupont Circle.

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/262878455-story

O.k. - that is horrible but it is also a separate incident from the crime that we are talking about.

I hope that they catch and prosecute the POS who disrespected her memorial like that.

It's more on topic than the PPs debating about the MoCo rape. And why can't you idiots delete the previous quotes in your replies? So much damn scrolling!

Police do not think that what happened to Nabra is a hate crime. We were discussing other teenagers that have had similar things happen to them.

The burning of Nabra's memorial does sound hate related but is not an indication that her assault and death were motivated by bias.

[Anonymous]

I didn't say anything about her murder being a hate crime. In fact I posted early in the thread saying I didn't think it was.

Her funeral is going on as we speak. Can't we focus on the victim and what happened to her without derailing the thread with ignorance about "illegals"?

[Anonymous]

I don't believe in being out that late, especially in the streets and under 18 also and walking, and it doesn't even matter what religion or belief. Bad things happen when darkness falls.

But, what happened is not road rage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in being out that late, especially in the streets and under 18 also and walking, and it doesn't even matter what religion or belief. Bad things happen when darkness falls.

But, what happened is not road rage.

so what then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is a very "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - ie, people hating on "illegals" as criminals are often the same people who harm on Muslims being terrorists. But in this case, it's convenient to show support for this Muslim family/community, but only in the name of disdain for "illegals."

Really? Because what I see is this: those who are constantly defending illegal immigrants are now in a quandary. Do they condemn this man for the horrific crime he committed, and admit he (and other criminals who are also here illegally) need to be deported? Or do they rise to his defense, and in doing so, insult the Muslim community they pretend to have such empathy for? Hmm. What a catch-22 for liberals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's so scary that there are random thugs out there who will snap and kill someone over something so dumb.

I agree. This was scary.

There was a brutal assault and murder of a girl at Accotink Lake in the Springfield area that absolutely was gang related although I don't know if it was MS13 or not. Bottom line is there are thugs out there targeting kids. That is frightening.

The gangbangers lived in maryland and chose springfield to commit their crime. Populated urban areas in reston, springfield, great falls, herndon etc are where they like to hang out with their buddies and bug people or pickup women. I remember when I was a teen in the 90s an asian girl got kidnapped or went away with some gangbangers for days and reported as missing. Girls need to stay away from crowded cars with men or just dont look or bother them. I avert my gaze everytime.

That you included Great Falls in your list tells me you have never even been there. Great Falls is about as far from "urban" as you can get. Haven't seen or heard of any gang activity here, but thanks for your "insight."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Urban Great Falls = the plaza with Starbucks near the library?

Exactly. The mean streets of Great Falls!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is a very "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - ie, people hating on "illegals" as criminals are often the same people who harm on Muslims being terrorists. But in this case, it's convenient to show support for this Muslim family/community, but only in the name of disdain for "illegals."

Really? Because what I see is this: those who are constantly defending illegal immigrants are now in a quandary. Do they condemn this man for the horrific crime he committed, and admit he (and other criminals who are also here illegally) need to be deported? Or do they rise to his defense, and in doing so, insult the Muslim community they pretend to have such empathy for? Hmm. What a catch-22 for liberals.

Yep. Very sad but seems to be the case.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is a very "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - ie, people hating on "illegals" as criminals are often the same people who harm on Muslims being terrorists. But in this case, it's convenient to show support for this Muslim family/community, but only in the name of disdain for "illegals."

Really? Because what I see is this: those who are constantly defending illegal immigrants are now in a quandary. Do they condemn this man for the horrific crime he committed, and admit he (and other criminals who are also here illegally) need to be deported? Or do they rise to his defense, and in doing so, insult the Muslim community they pretend to have such empathy for? Hmm. What a catch-22 for liberals.

I am sympathetic to undocumented residents and I am not in a quandary. I'm surprised at the thought that someone might even think that I am in quandary. I don't know anyone who defends violent criminals, legal or otherwise. Violent criminals deserve to be jailed. So, yes, of course I condemn this man for the horrific crime. No quandary. Should he be deported? He hasn't been tried, let alone convicted, so it is a little early to start determining punishment. But if the facts are as alleged, he deserves a long jail sentence followed by deportation. No Muslim should be and probably few are insulted by opposition to collective punishment. The only person who should be punished for killing Nabra is the man who did it. No need to exploit her murder for another agenda.

[Anonymous]

That if he weren't here illegally he could not have assaulted and murdered Nabra is not an "agenda".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That if he weren't here illegally he could not have assaulted and murdered Nabra is not an "agenda".

(I'm not Jeff.) Sure, if this particular guy had not immigrated illegally, he would not have been able to commit the crime. It's easy to see in retrospect that we'd be better off if he hadn't come here. But would we all be safer if no illegal immigrants came? This seems to be your question and agenda. Studies seem to show that immigrants -- in particular illegal immigrants -- commit crime at lower rates than native born Americans: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-and-crime-how-big-a-problem-is-crime-committed-by-immigrants/
So maybe we would actually be better off with more illegal immigrants and fewer native born Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That if he weren't here illegally he could not have assaulted and murdered Nabra is not an "agenda".

(I'm not Jeff.) Sure, if this particular guy had not immigrated illegally, he would not have been able to commit the crime. It's easy to see in retrospect that we'd be better off if he hadn't come here. But would we all be safer if no illegal immigrants came? This seems to be your question and agenda. Studies seem to show that immigrants -- in particular illegal immigrants -- commit crime at lower rates than native born Americans: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-and-crime-how-big-a-problem-is-crime-committed-by-immigrants/
So maybe we would actually be better off with more illegal immigrants and fewer native born Americans.

Wow. And you wonder why those who are apologists for illegal immigrants (Hint: Democrats) just can't seem to win an election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is a very "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - ie, people hating on "illegals" as criminals are often the same people who harm on Muslims being terrorists. But in this case, it's convenient to show support for this Muslim family/community, but only in the name of disdain for "illegals."

Really? Because what I see is this: those who are constantly defending illegal immigrants are now in a quandary. Do they condemn this man for the horrific crime he committed, and admit he (and other criminals who are also here illegally) need to be deported? Or do they rise to his defense, and in doing so, insult the Muslim community they pretend to have such empathy for? Hmm. What a catch-22 for liberals.

Who is defending this scum? Please post links.

I keep hearing this is a "road rage" incident rather than a "hate crime" but not a lot of specifics as to why police think that. It takes a special kind of derangement to get road rage over a group of kids walking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That if he weren't here illegally he could not have assaulted and murdered Nabra is not an "agenda".

(I'm not Jeff.) Sure, if this particular guy had not immigrated illegally, he would not have been able to commit the crime. It's easy to see in retrospect that we'd be better off if he hadn't come here. But would we all be safer if no illegal immigrants came? This seems to be your question and agenda. Studies seem to show that immigrants -- in particular illegal immigrants -- commit crime at lower rates than native born Americans: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-and-crime-how-big-a-problem-is-crime-committed-by-immigrants/
So maybe we would actually be better off with more illegal immigrants and fewer native born Americans.

Wow. And you wonder why those who are apologists for illegal immigrants (Hint: Democrats) just can't seem to win an election.

DP. You're missing the point. While people say crime rates would be lower if all illegal immigrants were deported (which isn't realistic by the way, unless you don't want police to do anything else), the facts don't back that up.