Parents have 9 daughters and 4 sons. We were well off and lived in a house that ran on structure: set routines, and a lot of systems just to keep things functioning. We all went to private school, college was paid for, and had set extracurriculars. No one was left behind and we were all able to do what we were passionate about. We did have household help. Routines were apart of everything — school, activities, etc. We always knew what to expect, and it wasn’t the chaos that usually comes with so many kids. What really stands out looking back are Sundays and holidays. Those are our favorite memories. Sundays included — everyone home, long dinners, it was always the same, and this is something we do with our kids now. We always had set family time (our parents wanted us have close bonds) and that’s a big reason why we’re still super close as busy adults. Holidays were always special. That carried into adulthood, we’re all close as siblings thanks to our parents, our kids love their cousins and every year all of us — siblings, spouses, and kids still make sure to go on vacation together. My parents now have 47 grandchildren whom they adore and sometimes say they love more than us..I don’t have anything bad to say about it. |
Curious how old you were and where you grew up and how on earth your parents paid for all of this. I grew up in the 80s and 90s as one of two kids and had two working parents with white collar jobs and we still were barely making it by in order for them to save for college for us and we didn’t have any hired help ever. I can’t imagine having a 3rd sibling given the sacrifices we were already making, let alone 10 more. Private school and college for everyone, too?! Wow. |
Your homework for 2025: Get so very, very much over yourself. NP |
All kids are not the same. My oldest is just hard. Lots of medical issues, emotional issues. He is growing up just fine, but darn it he is/was hard. He was seven before I thought I could handle another. Second kid is sooooooo much easier. Different temperament. Very independent. If all kids were like my second we’d have 8! Now that they are both fine and doing well life is overwhelming with activities! Good stuff, but hard stuff. |
I’m in my mid-30s and we grew up here in the DC area. Both of my parents are originally from old, established families in the Northeast with significant generational wealth. There were family businesses and trusts that made it all possible. It’s not a typical situation. |
Damn, certainly not. I think most of us could handle more kids if we had generational wealth and family businesses to ease the pressure of finances, employment, and savings. You inadvertently raise a good point, which is that so many of the challenges of multiple kids could easily be alleviates if some of the external stressors were eliminated. Yes, some kids are just hard and would be even if someone was filthy rich. But for the most part people who struggle with the kids they have do so because it is hard to balance full time employment, housing, savings, retirement planning, and college savings while also raising a child to be an independent adult. Add occasional job loss or older parents needing help or an inability to move to a larger house or afford a better school district, and it’s a miracle anyone ever has more than 1 kid. |
Absolutely. Finances play a huge role. Removing financial stress changes everything, time, energy, stress. We don’t take any of it for granted. |
Or, perhaps, people are actually different and are living entirely different lives than you! I know, it sounds crazy! Did you know that some women experience more pain, more bleeding, longer cycles, etc. during their periods than other women?! I’m sure some of you who are blessed with regular cycles, average flow, and mild cramps that last last half a day assume your sisters are drama llamas or just not as tough or looking at life through the wrong lens when they experience debilitating symptoms approximately once a month… |
So, these ladies have a hard time with the basics of life because of their periods? That’s a lot of projecting but okay. Perhaps. |
New Poster here/ not the one you are responding to. But maybe my perspective can help. What PP said about periods resonated with me. I am like OP, deep down I don’t always undertand how some of my friends get so overwhelmed with 2 kids (that from the outside I don’t see as particularly difficult or special needs). But I also had a very belated aha moment that I would be ashamed to admit in real life : I finally understood the craziness and pain of periods and hormone fluctuations at 45 years old… and this helped me understand a lot of the pain frazzledness, mom rage, exhaustion, emotional drain and angst, you name it, all the stuff I didn’t understand before. Not because the periods explained everything else but just because I discovered how my body could create an alternate experience and reality that I objectively didn’t expect. And it made me question everything else. I am still very emotionally detached or very level headed - I am using those words for lack of better words but there is no judgment or feeling that I am better than my friends - but with peri menopause I discovered a new experience. Including (but not only) directly linked to my periods, with headaches, exhaustion, pain, emotional distress, feeling overwhelmed etc.. all of this coming right before my period. I have found it fascinating. And taught me a humbling lesson on how imperfect emu self control was. And to be clear : not relegating any feminist ideal here. I don’t think men are less influenced by their hormones. Testosterone clearly often ends up in the driver seat |
So many typos and short cuts. Sorry, it is late ! |
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It's like teaching. Some years, I get super easy breezy classes. They run well after just teaching them the routines. No drama. No real behavior issues. Easy.
Other years, I get 1 or 2 very difficult, reactive kids and they really make the day difficult for everyone. Every 5-6 yrs, I get a class full of super difficult kids and those are the years I contemplate leaving teaching altogether. You never know what you're going to get. Ditto for parenting. I have one child with ADHD. I don't mind it at home because I have the knowledge and capacity to deal with it. My brother was the same way as my kid so I know what it's like. One of my students has pretty severe ADHD but he also has emotional and academic concerns. His mother has no idea how to parent him and doesn't seem too interested in learning. Handing him a tablet is what she does (her words). She doesn't have any other kids. He counts for 3-4 easier children. |
| Mom of the year, congrats on being best of the best. But you better knock on wood with how perfect your life is because you and your family are not immortal. |
It’s an analogy you imbecile. |
For a board obsessed with the SAT and college admissions, the lack of basic reading comprehension on display is downright shocking. ANALOGY The aha moment shouldn’t be about JUST periods - it should be that other people have can entirely different experiences than you, even if from the outside it would look like the same experience. So to be clear: you don’t know just by looking at a woman what her periods are like, and it’s asinine to assume they’re the exact same as yours, JUST AS you don’t know by looking at a child or a parent what their (temperament, finances, job stress, mental illness, friendships, intelligence, etc. ad infinitum) are like and it’s asinine to assume they’re the exact same as yours. |