Widespread looting in Philadelphia right now

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

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So… that’s 2 votes for mass graves!

JFC. Liberals have an insane way of inventing reasons to be hytsterical. Not a single person suggested concentration camps or mass graves. There was an extremest liberal poster who said:
"We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?" to which the response was "That would be considerable cheaper..."

So, yeah, the far left brought extremism into the conversation and it was met with equal stupidity. God damn, you guys are loons.

Agreed.

This entire conversation is basically progressive left sad about poverty and not wanting to arrest or prosecute anyone for crime vs. more moderate or right folks basically saying “how about we hold people accountable for their crimes.” And yet we are labeled unprincipled. Insane.

How many inmates are you willing to fund with your salary? How much are you willing to shell to stop the theft of leggings? The cost is $130K per head. I mean these are basic questions that you moderate folks curtail.

So what’s your solution?

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

I'm not sure what living in the suburbs has to do with believing that criminals shouldn't be put into concentration camps and gassed, but nice virtue signaling.

you’re just arguing in bad faith now, fixating on something that wasn’t even intended. Stop employing breathless hyperbole and just admit you don’t believe jail is where criminals should go.

You are seriously bad at trolling. Don't quit your day job.

Keep arguing in bad faith and trying to steer the arguments to places previous posters did not intend. You won’t win the argument, but you can distract enough people.

Okay, that was a little better! Maybe there's hope for you yet.

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Anonymous wrote:

WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

The trend is that blue cities like Philly, Portland, DC have, mainly as a response to George Floyd in 2020, have implemented progressive criminal justice policies which are tantamount to leniency. These looters will have a no bail policy for example. Or they will have a progressive judge intent on not prosecuting.

Basically, to anyone paying attention crime is rising, but as a direct result of criminals knowing that they get a free pass under these new policies, there are no serious punishments anymore.

No that is your partisan narrative. The Philly police arrested the perps. That’s the truth.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

I'm not sure what living in the suburbs has to do with believing that criminals shouldn't be put into concentration camps and gassed, but nice virtue signaling.

you’re just arguing in bad faith now, fixating on something that wasn’t even intended. Stop employing breathless hyperbole and just admit you don’t believe jail is where criminals should go.

You are seriously bad at trolling. Don't quit your day job.

Keep arguing in bad faith and trying to steer the arguments to places previous posters did not intend. You won’t win the argument, but you can distract enough people.

Okay, that was a little better! Maybe there's hope for you yet.

Answer the question. What’s your solution to the increasing crime?

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

I'm a Democrat (and DC resident), but sadly, what they posted specific to DC is true and contributing to a significant year on year crime wave in DC when crimes are receding in other cities.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

The trend is that blue cities like Philly, Portland, DC have, mainly as a response to George Floyd in 2020, have implemented progressive criminal justice policies which are tantamount to leniency. These looters will have a no bail policy for example. Or they will have a progressive judge intent on not prosecuting.

Basically, to anyone paying attention crime is rising, but as a direct result of criminals knowing that they get a free pass under these new policies, there are no serious punishments anymore.

No that is your partisan narrative. The Philly police arrested the perps. That’s the truth.

Arrest. Release. Repeat.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

I'm not sure what living in the suburbs has to do with believing that criminals shouldn't be put into concentration camps and gassed, but nice virtue signaling.

you’re just arguing in bad faith now, fixating on something that wasn’t even intended. Stop employing breathless hyperbole and just admit you don’t believe jail is where criminals should go.

You are seriously bad at trolling. Don't quit your day job.

Keep arguing in bad faith and trying to steer the arguments to places previous posters did not intend. You won’t win the argument, but you can distract enough people.

Okay, that was a little better! Maybe there's hope for you yet.

Answer the question. What’s your solution to the increasing crime?

My solution is to hire more police officers and direct more funding to our court systems so that punishments for committing crimes are swift, certain, and salient.

I can also say that I definitely do not support putting criminals into concentration camps and gassing them.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

I'm a Democrat (and DC resident), but sadly, what they posted specific to DC is true and contributing to a significant year on year crime wave in DC when crimes are receding in other cities.

Thank you. And what does Philly have in common? Let’s all say it together: progressive. Criminal. Justice.

America is watching and getting really fking tired of it. You want Youngkin to win? This is how that dude gets drafted and wins. I know abortion is a hot button issue, but seriously how many more news stories of organized smash and grab can America watch on tv until they have enough and vote with common sense on crime. The only thing that works is strict, immediate punishment, not trying to endlessly study and pontificate on the root causes of crime. While you do that another crime is committed. Another CVS leaves an urban center.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

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So… that’s 2 votes for mass graves!

JFC. Liberals have an insane way of inventing reasons to be hytsterical. Not a single person suggested concentration camps or mass graves. There was an extremest liberal poster who said:
"We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?" to which the response was "That would be considerable cheaper..."

So, yeah, the far left brought extremism into the conversation and it was met with equal stupidity. God damn, you guys are loons.

The reasonable response to "should we build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?" is "no, of course not, that is abhorrent," not "it'd be considerably cheaper" and then go on a rant about how some people are irredeemable.

This isn't hard, yet you guys keep finding a way.

Sorry, but no. You ask stupid questions and you get stupid answers. If PP wants to start with extremist hyperbole then we'll let her see how ridiculous that actually is. And yes, some people are irredeemable. And yes, prison systems need to find a way to make overhead to keep themselves afloat. WE need more of them. This isn't new to anyone but for some reason you cannot talk reality with progressives.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

I'm not sure what living in the suburbs has to do with believing that criminals shouldn't be put into concentration camps and gassed, but nice virtue signaling.

you’re just arguing in bad faith now, fixating on something that wasn’t even intended. Stop employing breathless hyperbole and just admit you don’t believe jail is where criminals should go.

You are seriously bad at trolling. Don't quit your day job.

Keep arguing in bad faith and trying to steer the arguments to places previous posters did not intend. You won’t win the argument, but you can distract enough people.

Okay, that was a little better! Maybe there's hope for you yet.

Answer the question. What’s your solution to the increasing crime?

My solution is to hire more police officers and direct more funding to our court systems so that punishments for committing crimes are swift, certain, and salient.

I can also say that I definitely do not support putting criminals into concentration camps and gassing them.

Your first paragraph was done well.

However, you again you argue in bad faith and fixate on a random comment that wasn’t written in earnest.

Anyway, we’ve gotten you to admit that prosecution works, so I guess you are capable of admitting defeat.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

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Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

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So… that’s 2 votes for mass graves!

JFC. Liberals have an insane way of inventing reasons to be hytsterical. Not a single person suggested concentration camps or mass graves. There was an extremest liberal poster who said:
"We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?" to which the response was "That would be considerable cheaper..."

So, yeah, the far left brought extremism into the conversation and it was met with equal stupidity. God damn, you guys are loons.

Agreed.

This entire conversation is basically progressive left sad about poverty and not wanting to arrest or prosecute anyone for crime vs. more moderate or right folks basically saying “how about we hold people accountable for their crimes.” And yet we are labeled unprincipled. Insane.

How many inmates are you willing to fund with your salary? How much are you willing to shell to stop the theft of leggings? The cost is $130K per head. I mean these are basic questions that you moderate folks curtail.

You keep asking the same question PPs have answered you. I am willing to pay but think prisons need to create other sources of revenue. WE also need to trim the cost of keeping each prisoner. $130K is ridiculous and far more than what that criminal would be making/spending out of prison so why do they get a 6 figure salary in prison? Trim the excess and make larger mega prisons to cut the overhead per person. IN all, paying $130K per person is definitely worth the cost considering the damage done by each prisoner on the outside. I'd pay $130K to minimize murder and rapes in our communities.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

I'm a Democrat (and DC resident), but sadly, what they posted specific to DC is true and contributing to a significant year on year crime wave in DC when crimes are receding in other cities.

Thank you. And what does Philly have in common? Let’s all say it together: progressive. Criminal. Justice.

America is watching and getting really fking tired of it. You want Youngkin to win? This is how that dude gets drafted and wins. I know abortion is a hot button issue, but seriously how many more news stories of organized smash and grab can America watch on tv until they have enough and vote with common sense on crime. The only thing that works is strict, immediate punishment, not trying to endlessly study and pontificate on the root causes of crime. While you do that another crime is committed. Another CVS leaves an urban center.

Yes to both PPs above. I'd venture to say that most PPs here are also tired Dems. Dem here. I'm done. Crime is up in DC and bleeding into NOVA (hello, Tysons), and I'm done. I am solidly behind reproductive rights but am wondering how much crime we have to put up with to support that.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

The trend is that blue cities like Philly, Portland, DC have, mainly as a response to George Floyd in 2020, have implemented progressive criminal justice policies which are tantamount to leniency. These looters will have a no bail policy for example. Or they will have a progressive judge intent on not prosecuting.

Basically, to anyone paying attention crime is rising, but as a direct result of criminals knowing that they get a free pass under these new policies, there are no serious punishments anymore.

No that is your partisan narrative. The Philly police arrested the perps. That’s the truth.

DP.
Police arrest all the time. We will see how serious Philly is about dealing with this problem when we see HOW they prosecute. That is the key.
An arrest makes no difference if the criminals get out on no- or low bail, reoffend, and are arrested again to get out again and do it all over. And, an arrest makes no difference if the prosecutors don't hold the criminals accountable. That is what pp is talking about when they say they get a "free pass."

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

This is a terrifying glimpse into the Fox News-addled brain of your average Republican. Jesus Christ.

seriously these people are nuts. It’s getting scary how uneducated and unprincipled these people are. It’s all ID.

People angry about organized crime sprees going unpunished are the unprincipled ones? Makes sense! How’s life in the suburbs? Probably pretty safe away from where crime actually happens. We are all impressed with your righteous indignation.

Why do you keep saying they are not being charged? Can’t you read the arrest reports?

Because 67% of crimes went unprosecuted in the district in 2022 by a liberal Biden da. Because we don’t have a fking working crime lab for years. Because our progressive city council has implemented the Youth Rehab act to let out criminals early. Or the second look act to shield violent criminal records. Because we let speeders keep their license with $12k in speeding tickets and they hit and killed three people on rock creek.

Pay fking attention. Your Johnny come lately knowledge to how things work with crime and punishment in DC shows you have no clue how lenient this town is and how offenders get off time and time again.

Because we have a progressive council l

You seem to be on some personal tirade but we are discussing Philadelphia here.

The trend is that blue cities like Philly, Portland, DC have, mainly as a response to George Floyd in 2020, have implemented progressive criminal justice policies which are tantamount to leniency. These looters will have a no bail policy for example. Or they will have a progressive judge intent on not prosecuting.

Basically, to anyone paying attention crime is rising, but as a direct result of criminals knowing that they get a free pass under these new policies, there are no serious punishments anymore.

Crime has uniformly spiked in low income areas, regardless of whether they implemented police budget cuts or Criminal Justice reform. The only common thread is raging inflation with food and housing prices far outpacing any wage gains. And more transparency on how citizens in those areas are policed. That’s the inconvenient truth. People are released on bail because most cities don’t have the $$$ to find $130k per leggings and baby formula thief.

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WTF? This is crazy. All the people arrested and released will be looting again tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day.
We need more prisons. Honestly, that's the only solution at this point. This entire population of criminals should be swept up and locked away. They have no value-add to society.

It's called BAIL. Welcome to reality. This is not new. This is not exclusive to any political party.

But setting a low ball bail is exclusive to certain ideologies. Set that crap sky high and let them sit.

+100

Serious question, how many inmates are you willing to house and feed? The average cost per inmate is $130,000 per year.

Why feed and house inmates at $130K? That's a waste of money and resources. Build a mega prison with cheap overhead and throw them in there. There's no reason to spend any money on these folks when there's no return on investment. And we can stop death penalty appeals. That is a time suck.

We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?

That would be considerable cheaper. I doubt this is their first merry-go-round. These are likely juveniles on their 4th, 5th, + criminal incident with no future prospects. We do not need them. What we do need are more mega prisons. Make them for profit if needed. Prison labor can be used for hire to make it self sustaining. There's got to be a solution because they do not belong in society. We cannot put retailers or services in low income communities because the people that live there with rob and loot these very institutions. They continue to dig their own graves.

+1

So… that’s 2 votes for mass graves!

JFC. Liberals have an insane way of inventing reasons to be hytsterical. Not a single person suggested concentration camps or mass graves. There was an extremest liberal poster who said:
"We already have mega prisons. Do you mean we should build concentration camps and gas people for looting Athleta?" to which the response was "That would be considerable cheaper..."

So, yeah, the far left brought extremism into the conversation and it was met with equal stupidity. God damn, you guys are loons.

Agreed.

This entire conversation is basically progressive left sad about poverty and not wanting to arrest or prosecute anyone for crime vs. more moderate or right folks basically saying “how about we hold people accountable for their crimes.” And yet we are labeled unprincipled. Insane.

How many inmates are you willing to fund with your salary? How much are you willing to shell to stop the theft of leggings? The cost is $130K per head. I mean these are basic questions that you moderate folks curtail.

You keep asking the same question PPs have answered you. I am willing to pay but think prisons need to create other sources of revenue. WE also need to trim the cost of keeping each prisoner. $130K is ridiculous and far more than what that criminal would be making/spending out of prison so why do they get a 6 figure salary in prison? Trim the excess and make larger mega prisons to cut the overhead per person. IN all, paying $130K per person is definitely worth the cost considering the damage done by each prisoner on the outside. I'd pay $130K to minimize murder and rapes in our communities.

The murderer was the police officer. He is roaming the streets free. These vandals are leggings thieves. They exceed the number of murderers by many magnitudes. I am so glad you are willing to provide lodgings and meals for them at $130k per head. You can make that a reality by asking GOP presidential candidates to increase your taxes significantly.

You can’t force imprisoned people to work so what are you going to do starve or torture them?