4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

Ok, but the roommates didn't call 911. They called friends to come over. And one of the friends then called 911. There hasn't been anything to suggest that the caller reported a stabbing. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the made-up conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

Ok, but the roommates didn't call 911. They called friends to come over. And one of the friends then called 911. There hasn't been anything to suggest that the caller reported a stabbing. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the made-up conversation.

Okay fine, replace roommate with friend of roommate in my fake conversation. Replace “stabbed” with “hurt.” The point is just because it’s reported that someone reported an unconscious person doesn’t mean that’s all that was said in the 911 call. It could be as simple as the operator not able to confirm anything except that the person was not conscious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

Ok, but the roommates didn't call 911. They called friends to come over. And one of the friends then called 911. There hasn't been anything to suggest that the caller reported a stabbing. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the made-up conversation.

Or the friends coming over was unrelated - the bodies hadn’t been discovered yet. Maybe they just thought the others were asleep - they slept on an another floor of the house and it was noon on a Sunday in college. A lot of college kids are still asleep then.

So terrifying and also mysterious. I don’t know why I feel better when they know right away who did it. It’s no less tragic but yet somehow is less worrisome. I really feel for all the students of that school - it must feel awful not knowing what happened. I wouldn’t want my child going back until the killer was arrested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wow: https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/neighbors-dog-was-skinned-shortly-before-university-of-idaho-murders/amp/

That is very creepy.

True, but if you read the article it happened 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not what the title implies.

What do you mean? I think the fact that someone did that to an animal with a knife and not far away from their residence is ominous.

It's Idaho. Rural. 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not relevant

Sure it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow: https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/neighbors-dog-was-skinned-shortly-before-university-of-idaho-murders/amp/

That is very creepy.

True, but if you read the article it happened 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not what the title implies.

What do you mean? I think the fact that someone did that to an animal with a knife and not far away from their residence is ominous.

It's Idaho. Rural. 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not relevant

Sure it is.

Absolutely. Ominous is right. There is a psycho loose. He'll strike again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

Ok, but the roommates didn't call 911. They called friends to come over. And one of the friends then called 911. There hasn't been anything to suggest that the caller reported a stabbing. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the made-up conversation.

Or the friends coming over was unrelated - the bodies hadn’t been discovered yet. Maybe they just thought the others were asleep - they slept on an another floor of the house and it was noon on a Sunday in college. A lot of college kids are still asleep then.

So terrifying and also mysterious. I don’t know why I feel better when they know right away who did it. It’s no less tragic but yet somehow is less worrisome. I really feel for all the students of that school - it must feel awful not knowing what happened. I wouldn’t want my child going back until the killer was arrested.

Our brains are hard-wired to want explanations for danger. It's a protective mechanism. If we can find a way to explain something/someone's death or injury, then we can tell ourselves how it won't happen to us or how to avoid it. It allows us to live without feeling freaked out all the time that someone is going to injure/kill us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

Ok, but the roommates didn't call 911. They called friends to come over. And one of the friends then called 911. There hasn't been anything to suggest that the caller reported a stabbing. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the made-up conversation.

Or the friends coming over was unrelated - the bodies hadn’t been discovered yet. Maybe they just thought the others were asleep - they slept on an another floor of the house and it was noon on a Sunday in college. A lot of college kids are still asleep then.

So terrifying and also mysterious. I don’t know why I feel better when they know right away who did it. It’s no less tragic but yet somehow is less worrisome. I really feel for all the students of that school - it must feel awful not knowing what happened. I wouldn’t want my child going back until the killer was arrested.

Our brains are hard-wired to want explanations for danger. It's a protective mechanism. If we can find a way to explain something/someone's death or injury, then we can tell ourselves how it won't happen to us or how to avoid it. It allows us to live without feeling freaked out all the time that someone is going to injure/kill us.

This makes sense and explains why my neighbor said an area near three shootings is safe because people get shot over THERE and not over HERE 300-800 feet away.

[Anonymous]

My theory on the “unconscious person” 911 call. I think the killer locked the doors to the victims’ rooms. It’s typical for each bedroom to have its own lock in a college shared living situation. The roommates slept late after a long night, went to check on their roommates and couldn’t get in their doors due to them being locked. They may have called friends to come over and help (maybe boyfriends?) and they couldn’t open the door either. They called the police thinking someone may be passed out due to alcohol poisoning since they weren’t responding or able to get into the room.

[Anonymous]

I still think the ex bf or the roommates are somehow involved. If there are no signs of forced entry it must be someone already inside the house or the ex who knows the door passcode. Maybe the ex bf left his phone at his place so that if you trace/locate his phone it will confirm he was home. Also, its very possible the ex called his own phone from the 2 girls phones.. not sure why but it could be to avoid suspicion??
Or one of the surviving roommates is responsible as it would be easiest for them to get rid of the evidence, wash the clothing, hide evidence, shower etc..

[Anonymous]

I do not believe it is the roommates or exbf. Neither make sense. Unless the roommates were both on meth or something.

[Anonymous]

The 911 call was about an “unresponsive” person, not an “unconscious” person. They called 911 bc for whatever reason they were concerned that someone was being unresponsive. It said the cops discovered the bodies as well when they arrived. It does sound like the doors may have been locked and the roommates couldn’t get in and couldn’t get them to respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My theory on the “unconscious person” 911 call. I think the killer locked the doors to the victims’ rooms. It’s typical for each bedroom to have its own lock in a college shared living situation. The roommates slept late after a long night, went to check on their roommates and couldn’t get in their doors due to them being locked. They may have called friends to come over and help (maybe boyfriends?) and they couldn’t open the door either. They called the police thinking someone may be passed out due to alcohol poisoning since they weren’t responding or able to get into the room.

I agree with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe it is the roommates or exbf. Neither make sense. Unless the roommates were both on meth or something.

+1 the more i read about the more I think this was done by a stranger.

[Anonymous]

If I had a student there living in off campus housing right now, I would bring him or her home.

[Anonymous]

Just saw an interview with a criminologist who thinks it is someone they know (she said statistically it’s more likely to be that situation).

In another interesting twist - cops said there is no relation to the skinning of the dog and these murders but aren’t saying how or why they know that…https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-police-dog-found-skinned-head-tail-unrelated-college-students-murders.amp