4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

[Anonymous]

Someone who waited for a dog to be let out, skinned it...and then a rabbit with its scalped sliced open found in the same location mere weeks before someone with a rambo style knife goes psycho on college kids? Psychopaths with antisocial personality disorder usually start off killing animals and graduate to humans...

I wouldn't be so sure to say there is no connection just because there is a 3 mile distance between the crimes.

[Anonymous]

Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

A lot of this was discussed in other forums. It sounds like the first floor was really more like a basement apartment and the main entrance was on the second floor. The attacker probably never went near the first floor rooms (and there are some reports that the girls had their doors locked.) Some people think one of the roommates was targeted and it was one that lived on the top floor.

It’s not clear what the surviving roommates and friends saw - they were likely in shock and freaked out. I doubt I would get anywhere near a body if I thought they could be dead (what if the attacker could still be nearby?)

[Anonymous]

I did find that odd about the roommates too. One of the police in an article that I read described the scene as a "bloodbath".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

A lot of this was discussed in other forums. It sounds like the first floor was really more like a basement apartment and the main entrance was on the second floor. The attacker probably never went near the first floor rooms (and there are some reports that the girls had their doors locked.) Some people think one of the roommates was targeted and it was one that lived on the top floor.

It’s not clear what the surviving roommates and friends saw - they were likely in shock and freaked out. I doubt I would get anywhere near a body if I thought they could be dead (what if the attacker could still be nearby?)

I completely understand that and I would be too, but that presumes the roommates realized what had happened and that's not really how it's being reported. It sounds like the roommates simply thought the others were just passed out (presumably that's why they first called friends and not the police). And they didn't discover they were murdered until the authorities showed up. It all sounds odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow: https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/neighbors-dog-was-skinned-shortly-before-university-of-idaho-murders/amp/

That is very creepy.

True, but if you read the article it happened 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not what the title implies.

What do you mean? I think the fact that someone did that to an animal with a knife and not far away from their residence is ominous.

It's Idaho. Rural. 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not relevant

Like you (or anyone else) knows at this point!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

A lot of this was discussed in other forums. It sounds like the first floor was really more like a basement apartment and the main entrance was on the second floor. The attacker probably never went near the first floor rooms (and there are some reports that the girls had their doors locked.) Some people think one of the roommates was targeted and it was one that lived on the top floor.

It’s not clear what the surviving roommates and friends saw - they were likely in shock and freaked out. I doubt I would get anywhere near a body if I thought they could be dead (what if the attacker could still be nearby?)

The sliding glass door (assumed pt of entry) was on the second floor.

[Anonymous]

I was confused about the timeline/facts - found this summary on websleuths

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/id-4-university-of-idaho-students-died-in-apparent-homicide-moscow-13-nov-2022-media-thread-no-discussion.644362/page-7#post-17908015

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow: https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/neighbors-dog-was-skinned-shortly-before-university-of-idaho-murders/amp/

That is very creepy.

True, but if you read the article it happened 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not what the title implies.

What do you mean? I think the fact that someone did that to an animal with a knife and not far away from their residence is ominous.

It's Idaho. Rural. 23 days ago and 3 miles away. Not relevant

3 miles is close, especially in rural areas.

+1 very relevant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

A lot of this was discussed in other forums. It sounds like the first floor was really more like a basement apartment and the main entrance was on the second floor. The attacker probably never went near the first floor rooms (and there are some reports that the girls had their doors locked.) Some people think one of the roommates was targeted and it was one that lived on the top floor.

It’s not clear what the surviving roommates and friends saw - they were likely in shock and freaked out. I doubt I would get anywhere near a body if I thought they could be dead (what if the attacker could still be nearby?)

The sliding glass door (assumed pt of entry) was on the second floor.

I wonder what entrance KG and MM entered when they came home, because a neighbors security footage has them returning home at 1:56am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this was addressed upthread, but there are some odd things being reported that don't make much sense. Maybe details are being omitted due to the ongoing investigation but some of what has been disclosed seems to raise more questions than provide answers.

The 2 surviving roommates thought at least one of the victims had "passed out" and then called friends over, then one of the friends calls 911 to report that someone is unresponsive--but the reporting makes it sound like they didn't know the victims were dead at the time they called 911. But wouldn't there have been a lot of blood after all stabbing? Neither of the 2 survivors or the friends saw blood anywhere? Neither of the 2 roommates or the friends who showed up got close to any of the victims? Didn't try to shake them awake or anything? Seems odd that 4 of the roommates are unresponsive and the others never went over to check on any of them? I realize they are college kids but this is odd behavior even for college kids.

There's camera footage showing people (I think the survivors and the friends who came over) but no footage of anything else during the relevant time period?

The 2 survivors were sleeping on the first floor but the victims were located on the 2nd and 3rd floors--so the killer chose only to target the people sleeping on the higher floors?

I don’t know why everyone is so hung up on the “unconscious” part.

The conversation could have been this

Roommate: my roommate has been stabbed!
Operator: Are they conscious?
Roommate: No
Operator: Are they breathing?
Roommate: I don’t know. There’s so much blood and I’m scared. What if the stabber is in there? I ran outside.
Operator: okay, stay calm and stay where you are the ambulance is on the way.

So what is reported is that the 911 caller said the victim was unconscious. There are many situations that could explain the reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was confused about the timeline/facts - found this summary on websleuths

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/id-4-university-of-idaho-students-died-in-apparent-homicide-moscow-13-nov-2022-media-thread-no-discussion.644362/page-7#post-17908015

Seems like one of the victims might have been calling her ex for help? She called him 6 x over like 20 minutes,
Beginning at 2:30 in the morning! But he says he was asleep so missed all the calls.

How sad, and yes, mysterious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was confused about the timeline/facts - found this summary on websleuths

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/id-4-university-of-idaho-students-died-in-apparent-homicide-moscow-13-nov-2022-media-thread-no-discussion.644362/page-7#post-17908015

Seems like one of the victims might have been calling her ex for help? She called him 6 x over like 20 minutes,
Beginning at 2:30 in the morning! But he says he was asleep so missed all the calls.

How sad, and yes, mysterious.

I think it could be a drunk dial situation. He must feel awful for missing it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was confused about the timeline/facts - found this summary on websleuths

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/id-4-university-of-idaho-students-died-in-apparent-homicide-moscow-13-nov-2022-media-thread-no-discussion.644362/page-7#post-17908015

Seems like one of the victims might have been calling her ex for help? She called him 6 x over like 20 minutes,
Beginning at 2:30 in the morning! But he says he was asleep so missed all the calls.

How sad, and yes, mysterious.

That victim's sister said she often called people over and over until they answered. It wasn't unusual behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was confused about the timeline/facts - found this summary on websleuths

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/id-4-university-of-idaho-students-died-in-apparent-homicide-moscow-13-nov-2022-media-thread-no-discussion.644362/page-7#post-17908015

Seems like one of the victims might have been calling her ex for help? She called him 6 x over like 20 minutes,
Beginning at 2:30 in the morning! But he says he was asleep so missed all the calls.

How sad, and yes, mysterious.

Or she was drunk and in her feels and wanted to talk to her ex who she dated for 5 years. When he didn’t pick up her calls, she thought he was ignoring her and maybe he’d pick up if she called from her friends phone. Not farfetched for a drunk young woman.