Hurricane Ian's effect on Florida voting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

Thank you for demonstrating my point that the seriousness of the danger was not communicated well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.

And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

You cannot be serious. Take your partisan quackery elsewhere until you’re able to summon the grace to acknowledge that EVERYTHING possible was done to prepare for this hurricane - including issuing evacuation orders. If there are actually people too stupid to understand when it’s time to leave, that’s no one’s fault but their own. But do go on - and realize no one is taking you seriously. Your motives are beyond transparent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

You cannot be serious. Take your partisan quackery elsewhere until you’re able to summon the grace to acknowledge that EVERYTHING possible was done to prepare for this hurricane - including issuing evacuation orders. If there are actually people too stupid to understand when it’s time to leave, that’s no one’s fault but their own. But do go on - and realize no one is taking you seriously. Your motives are beyond transparent.

Did you read the link you’re getting so upset about? You should.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe this hurricane that killed over 100 people in Florida is political. It's like politicizing tornadoes in Texas. Good grief! If you're so triggered, donate to victim families.

It doesn’t sound like people are politicizing this. Sometimes leadership makes mistakes and they need to have their feet held to the fire for it.

Not that Republicans ever get their feet held to the fire. Their voters applaud all of the GOP’s mighty ownership of… something, probably.

Except no mistakes were made. Everything was planned well in advance. The hurricane changed course. Bizarre to blame a human being for something out of anyone’s control, but you do you. No doubt if this governor was a Democrat, you’d be lauding the exact same preparations, efforts, and warnings. Do better.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe this hurricane that killed over 100 people in Florida is political. It's like politicizing tornadoes in Texas. Good grief! If you're so triggered, donate to victim families.

It doesn’t sound like people are politicizing this. Sometimes leadership makes mistakes and they need to have their feet held to the fire for it.

Not that Republicans ever get their feet held to the fire. Their voters applaud all of the GOP’s mighty ownership of… something, probably.

Except no mistakes were made. Everything was planned well in advance. The hurricane changed course. Bizarre to blame a human being for something out of anyone’s control, but you do you. No doubt if this governor was a Democrat, you’d be lauding the exact same preparations, efforts, and warnings. Do better.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

DP. As early as Sept. 27, Lee Co. (among others) was under a mandatory evacuation order. This site lists the incredible efforts that were in place well before Ian changed course and made landfall. Speaking of denigration, it’s almost comical (but mainly pathetic) watching you trash DeSantis after he put 200% into preparing for this hurricane.

https://www.flgov.com/2022/09/27/governor-ron-desantis-issues-updates-on-state-preparedness-for-hurricane-ian-4/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.

And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?

Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

DP. As early as Sept. 27, Lee Co. (among others) was under a mandatory evacuation order. This site lists the incredible efforts that were in place well before Ian changed course and made landfall. Speaking of denigration, it’s almost comical (but mainly pathetic) watching you trash DeSantis after he put 200% into preparing for this hurricane.

https://www.flgov.com/2022/09/27/governor-ron-desantis-issues-updates-on-state-preparedness-for-hurricane-ian-4/

Do people outside Florida not understand how much of the storm arrives before the eye makes landfall? I hunkered down Tuesday evening. They eye didn’t pass here until Thursday morning.

[Anonymous]

It didn’t change course. The official track shifted slightly south with every advisory but Fort Myers & Lee County were always on the strongest side of storm and under a Hurricane Warning midday Monday before Ian even got to Cuba.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

You cannot be serious. Take your partisan quackery elsewhere until you’re able to summon the grace to acknowledge that EVERYTHING possible was done to prepare for this hurricane - including issuing evacuation orders. If there are actually people too stupid to understand when it’s time to leave, that’s no one’s fault but their own. But do go on - and realize no one is taking you seriously. Your motives are beyond transparent.

Did you read the link you’re getting so upset about? You should.

The bolded is what I was "getting so upset about."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It didn’t change course. The official track shifted slightly south with every advisory but Fort Myers & Lee County were always on the strongest side of storm and under a Hurricane Warning midday Monday before Ian even got to Cuba.

And under a mandatory evacuation order. The only people to blame for not evacuating are those people themselves. No one else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It could take a month for people in Ft Myers to get power back

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lee-county-expects-power-220710391.html

Still no good answers about why local and state officials delayed issuing an evacuation order

Maybe this will help you with those answers.......

No, it doesn't. BTW get better sources. Xtina got her taxpayer funded job because she was good at being an online troll. She's never been there to actually provide information to the public.

If it doesn't help you then I can only assume you are not capable of reading......

"Mon, 2pm Lee County was still only under a Tropical Storm Watch. At 5:29pm Lee County went from TS Watch to TS Warning. NWS focus was still Tampa area. It wasn’t until 5:29am Tue that Lee went from TS Warning to Hurricane Warning."

They were in the cone of uncertainty for a couple of days before the storm actually hit. Their actual storm preparedness manual said to evacuate people days before, they just didn't follow it.

The path of the hurricane, even when it was predicted to landfall closer to Tampa, always put Fort Myers, Sanibel and the rest of Lee County, under a Storm Surge Watch/Warning. There was always going to be a dangerous storm surge, and someone dropped the ball in communicating to people what that meant. DeSantis, by saying stuff like "it's people's choice if they want to stay" didn't help. No sense of urgency was communicated to these people.

Also, DeSantis and his GOP friends constant denigration of experts and scientific opinion doesn't help in these situations. The NHC did a great job predicting the path and strength of Ian - Florida officials didn't do all they could have to get people out.

That is just not true. The had a storm surge watch up until Monday evening when it was upgraded to a storm surge warning.
Sorry to disappoint you that storms - including hurricanes - are unpredictable. This is not an exact science.
And, please cite when he denigrated the NHC.

The watch to warning switch is just when it got closer and the threat is in the next 24 hours. The PP is 100% correct. Even if it went to Tampa, hurricane-force winds would have been pushing water into Fort Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral. They would have got at least what Naples got.

And all intelligent adult Floridians knew it and took appropriate action to leave. Do your friends and family members need to specifically be told to leave when 140+ winds are heading to the coast?

Exactly. I live nowhere near Florida and knew a week before Ian hit how serious it would be. As did the entire nation. DeSantis and his team absolutely did all they could to get people out, including instituting mandatory evacuations - which some chose not to follow. Not sure why anyone else is being blamed for their poor decisions.

You might want to look up the meaning of "mandatory."

This is how to communicate the seriousness of a hurricane and its surge, and enforce a mandatory evacuation

https://thehill.com/homenews/348030-texas-mayor-tells-those-not-evacuating-to-write-names-social-security-numbers-on/

A Texas mayor is reportedly advising his residents who are not evacuating before Hurricane Harvey sweeps the state’s coastline to write identifying information on their bodies.

Rockport Mayor Pro Tempore Patrick Rios said Friday, ahead of the massive hurricane’s expected landfall, that residents should either evacuate or make sure their remains can be identified.

“We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number,” Rios said at a morning press conference, as reported by ABC News.