Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is rich...we are on the same page!



Read that whole thread - amazing! Sinema should be hounded by Arizonians too.


As far as cost of living goes - his 'yacht' is the cheaper option in the D.C. area. His fellow Senators and Pelosi are living in $2 million rowhomes and condos.


That yacht is worth close to $1m and the dock fees alone are probably close to $2K/month for a boat of that size.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is rich...we are on the same page!



Read that whole thread - amazing! Sinema should be hounded by Arizonians too.


As far as cost of living goes - his 'yacht' is the cheaper option in the D.C. area. His fellow Senators and Pelosi are living in $2 million rowhomes and condos.


That yacht is worth close to $1m and the dock fees alone are probably close to $2K/month for a boat of that size.


His 'yacht' is a houseboat bought in 2013 in a liquidation auction for $200,000.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4946155-House-Boat-4.html

You can't even get a studio for that price on the Wharf or Capitol Hill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is rich...we are on the same page!



Read that whole thread - amazing! Sinema should be hounded by Arizonians too.


As far as cost of living goes - his 'yacht' is the cheaper option in the D.C. area. His fellow Senators and Pelosi are living in $2 million rowhomes and condos.


That yacht is worth close to $1m and the dock fees alone are probably close to $2K/month for a boat of that size.


His 'yacht' is a houseboat bought in 2013 in a liquidation auction for $200,000.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4946155-House-Boat-4.html

You can't even get a studio for that price on the Wharf or Capitol Hill.


And I'm telling you what it's worth in that location, assuming it is fully functional.

Again, wealthy Senator pontificating from the back of his yacht in DC at one of the most expensive mooring's in the region while his constituents beg from the water won't play well back in WV on the local nightly news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is rich...we are on the same page!



Read that whole thread - amazing! Sinema should be hounded by Arizonians too.


As far as cost of living goes - his 'yacht' is the cheaper option in the D.C. area. His fellow Senators and Pelosi are living in $2 million rowhomes and condos.


That yacht is worth close to $1m and the dock fees alone are probably close to $2K/month for a boat of that size.


His 'yacht' is a houseboat bought in 2013 in a liquidation auction for $200,000.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4946155-House-Boat-4.html

You can't even get a studio for that price on the Wharf or Capitol Hill.


And I'm telling you what it's worth in that location, assuming it is fully functional.

Again, wealthy Senator pontificating from the back of his yacht in DC at one of the most expensive mooring's in the region while his constituents beg from the water won't play well back in WV on the local nightly news.


One of the most expensive moorings in the region? Where else should he moor? Baltimore - and take the Amtrak into D.C. for votes into 2AM? Maybe Alexandria, where he'll have to cross a bridge to get home?

He can literally walk to work and back from that cheap little houseboat. But yes, I'm sure the West Virgninians are horrified the greenpeace activists from Morgantown drove in and harassed Manchin from kayaks for days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On a related note, whoever coined the "Build Back Better" moniker should get sacked pronto.

What a stupid name. It's like a dumbed down version of MAGA.


Haha, I agree. I think it's the same person that came up with the "Be Best" campaign.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think we all just saw via the juicy federal unemployment and other slush, that providing endless government largess simply encourages people to not work . . . hence the current shortage of workers/inflation. I used to be an Andrew Yang/UBI-er. Now I really think government should work to get out of the way of small businesses and shrink where possible. Very grateful to Manchin & Sinema for standing up for common sense where a lot of democrats probably feel bullied to endorse this . . .


Asking as only a half joke, are you a bot? You’re practically spamming this thread with the phrase “very grateful” in relation to Sinema and Manchin. It’s the second time this page you’ve used the phrase. And for what? For them taking money from their corporate donors? For actively preventing America from making progress for all?


I am not a bot, and I doubt I'm the only grateful poster. I'm a very boring and very grateful mom of two larlas who I hope will not inherit a country drowning in debt. Would a bot know the dcum larla verbiage? Doubt it. Believe it or not, everyone who disagrees with you is not a Russian troll. Some people just think for themselves and have their own opinions - imagine that!


I prefer that my Larla have access to good quality childcare so she doesn’t have to drop out of the workforce to care for others like I and many other women have had to. I would like my Larla’s Larla’s to be able to go to college without relying on family wealth.

Also the evidence shows that states who ended federal unemployment supplement early did not see improvements in employment. The shortage of workers is due to the virus - people who can’t go back to work because they have LOng COVID or are dead, who are caring for other family members or who no longer view low pay without sick days or vaccination mandates as acceptable work conditions.
Anonymous
I guess the real question is whether the progress wing would be OK with $1.5T - $1.7T reconciliation bill. That’s probably all we can get sometime in December.
Anonymous
I prefer that my Larla have access to good quality childcare so she doesn’t have to drop out of the workforce to care for others like I and many other women have had to. I would like my Larla’s Larla’s to be able to go to college without relying on family wealth.


Lots of ways to go to college without relying on family wealth. Your Larla's Larla could go on an ROTC scholarship if she cannot get an academic or need based scholarship. Rather than going away, perhaps your Larla could help her Larla and let her live at home. And, of course, Larla's Larla does not have to go to an expensive private college.

But, I do have a question: If your Larla's Larla goes to college and flunks out because she doesn't go to class, who is paying for that? I'll answer for you--the taxpayer. And, I would hazard a guess--like all things when you have no skin in the game--this scenario will happen more often than you think.

Research housing and 235 and foreclosures. None of your own money involved? Just walk away.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I guess the real question is whether the progress wing would be OK with $1.5T - $1.7T reconciliation bill. That’s probably all we can get sometime in December.


Nope I say kill it. It’s times for the corporate master to get their puppets in line and vote yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I prefer that my Larla have access to good quality childcare so she doesn’t have to drop out of the workforce to care for others like I and many other women have had to. I would like my Larla’s Larla’s to be able to go to college without relying on family wealth.


Lots of ways to go to college without relying on family wealth. Your Larla's Larla could go on an ROTC scholarship if she cannot get an academic or need based scholarship. Rather than going away, perhaps your Larla could help her Larla and let her live at home. And, of course, Larla's Larla does not have to go to an expensive private college.

But, I do have a question: If your Larla's Larla goes to college and flunks out because she doesn't go to class, who is paying for that? I'll answer for you--the taxpayer. And, I would hazard a guess--like all things when you have no skin in the game--this scenario will happen more often than you think.

Research housing and 235 and foreclosures. None of your own money involved? Just walk away.


One of the ways to counter that is to add in a clause that if the recipient of free tuition does not graduate with a degree, then the money will need to be reimbursed. IF someone wants to cut short their college career, they can transfer to a junior college and get an AA degree or similar to avoid paying back the money. But corporations do that all the time. They specify that if you take training and leave in less than a given amount of time (usually a year) after the training, that the cost of training needs to be reimbursed to the company. The same can be done for public college assistance.
Anonymous
How about no. Scrap it all. We do not need to be paying for more useless college degrees at any point.
Anonymous
Covid, Climate Change, PHYSICAL Infrastructure, Housing, and Healthcare. Nothing else.

- A Dem not for this giant bill of hoopla

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is rich...we are on the same page!



Read that whole thread - amazing! Sinema should be hounded by Arizonians too.


As far as cost of living goes - his 'yacht' is the cheaper option in the D.C. area. His fellow Senators and Pelosi are living in $2 million rowhomes and condos.


That yacht is worth close to $1m and the dock fees alone are probably close to $2K/month for a boat of that size.


His 'yacht' is a houseboat bought in 2013 in a liquidation auction for $200,000.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4946155-House-Boat-4.html

You can't even get a studio for that price on the Wharf or Capitol Hill.


And I'm telling you what it's worth in that location, assuming it is fully functional.

Again, wealthy Senator pontificating from the back of his yacht in DC at one of the most expensive mooring's in the region while his constituents beg from the water won't play well back in WV on the local nightly news.


A) not a yacht
B) I live a few blocks away. It’s not that glamours. You ever go to cantina marina? It’s nice now, but not that nice. It’s like a fake little Vegas feel in DC.
C) where are you from? You obviously are talking about things you don’t know about.
Anonymous
Yessssssss - stand firm

Anonymous
Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.



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