Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I prefer that my Larla have access to good quality childcare so she doesn’t have to drop out of the workforce to care for others like I and many other women have had to. I would like my Larla’s Larla’s to be able to go to college without relying on family wealth.

Lots of ways to go to college without relying on family wealth. Your Larla's Larla could go on an ROTC scholarship if she cannot get an academic or need based scholarship. Rather than going away, perhaps your Larla could help her Larla and let her live at home. And, of course, Larla's Larla does not have to go to an expensive private college.

But, I do have a question: If your Larla's Larla goes to college and flunks out because she doesn't go to class, who is paying for that? I'll answer for you--the taxpayer. And, I would hazard a guess--like all things when you have no skin in the game--this scenario will happen more often than you think.

Research housing and 235 and foreclosures. None of your own money involved? Just walk away.

None of this is about an expensive private college, but that’s an attractive straw man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess the real question is whether the progress wing would be OK with $1.5T - $1.7T reconciliation bill. That’s probably all we can get sometime in December.

Bump it to just under 2mil w/ REAL climate action and I think they will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

[Anonymous]

He seems like a nice chap.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He seems like a nice chap.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He seems like a nice chap.

LOL Someone's mad. If they had any sort of consensus, why be mad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He seems like a nice chap.

LOL Someone's mad. If they had any sort of consensus, why be mad?

"Eloquent ambiguity" is actually an excellent descriptor for Pelosi's speeches and responses. Such pretty words. Such empty messages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

They were threatening to walk if Pelosi delayed the BIF vote. She's now delayed it twice. They haven't walked, and they are actually negotiating for the first time in months. Their actions show they want the BIF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

They were threatening to walk if Pelosi delayed the BIF vote. She's now delayed it twice. They haven't walked, and they are actually negotiating for the first time in months. Their actions show they want the BIF.

And Sinema conferencing in from Arizona shows what? Intensity?

I'm sure Biden rolling up with 10 SUVs of aides is a real shot in the arm...not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

They were threatening to walk if Pelosi delayed the BIF vote. She's now delayed it twice. They haven't walked, and they are actually negotiating for the first time in months. Their actions show they want the BIF.

And Sinema conferencing in from Arizona shows what? Intensity?

I'm sure Biden rolling up with 10 SUVs of aides is a real shot in the arm...not.

I have to giggle a little that his official "trip director" made the 3 mile drive with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

They were threatening to walk if Pelosi delayed the BIF vote. She's now delayed it twice. They haven't walked, and they are actually negotiating for the first time in months. Their actions show they want the BIF.

And Sinema conferencing in from Arizona shows what? Intensity?

I'm sure Biden rolling up with 10 SUVs of aides is a real shot in the arm...not.

Anyone notice who is NOT there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill's failed. Biden's on his way but he can't vote.

You don't seem understand what happened yesterday. Up until yesterday, Sinema and Manchin thought they could steamroll the progs into voting for the BIF while offering only vague statements about reconciliation. They thought the progs threats to vote down the BIF were empty and they'd fold. Yesterday they realized that wasn't going to happen and Pelosi had their back. The only way they are getting the BIF is to actually give the progs something meaningful. That's why you saw Manchin offer the $1.5T and Sinema issue her huffy statement insisting she is negotiating. And today you see Jayapal out there saying there's real negotiation going on now. There's going to be a deal. Manchin and Sinema want the BIF badly and now know the only way they get it is to compromise on reconciliation. It won't be $3.5T, but it's going to be higher than $1.5T. I bet $2.5T, more or less.

Honestly the BIF is nice but its not the be all and end all for any Senators - Dems or Republicans. Its some paltry cash for roadway projects they'd rather ignore. If it was something like a DOD project (which they rushed to fund I noticed) or a Maglev train - then you'd have anxiety. I totally believe Manchin and Sinema are willing to let both the bloated BBB proposal and the Infrastructure proposal die with it and I'm all the happier for it.

After all - they already passed it in the Senate. If Pelosi wants it to die in the House, that's on her.

They were threatening to walk if Pelosi delayed the BIF vote. She's now delayed it twice. They haven't walked, and they are actually negotiating for the first time in months. Their actions show they want the BIF.

And Sinema conferencing in from Arizona shows what? Intensity?

I'm sure Biden rolling up with 10 SUVs of aides is a real shot in the arm...not.

Anyone notice who is NOT there?

For god's sake if you say it one more time...let it go. She's not his crutch. He was a Senator for 50 years, presumably he could handle the Congress members he worked with longer than I've been alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This. I’m so, so sick of the “dEmS iN dIsArRaY” nonsense. It’s clearly a full court press from some GOP request to always, always have that be the message, but it’s not the truth.