DD’s butt pinched in the pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the screecher screaming SEXUAL ASSAULT. That's ridiculous. Here's what I tell me boys because of women like her: don't talk to anyone. Deny everything and call us. We have a great lawyer on speed dial.

It would help if boys started pressing charges on girls who harass and assault them..lawsuits against the families who enable the girls as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was inappropriate for sure but it doesn't rise to the level of sexual assault. Here's the definition of sexual assault in Maryland, for example:

Vaginal intercourse, or a sexual act, with another by force or threat of force, without the consent of the other, and defendant:

Employs/displays a dangerous weapon, or a physical object the victim reasonably believes is a dangerous weapon;
Inflicts serious physical injury on the victim or another in the course of committing the crime;
Threatens or places the victim in fear that the victim, or a 3rd person known to the victim, imminently will be subject to death, suffocation, etc.;
Commits the crime while aided and abetted by another; or
Commits the crime in connection with a burglary in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree.


Sometimes you let things go. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill. And I'm a sexual assault survivor.

That is just wrong. Maryland’s sexual assault laws cover this action as illegal “sexual conduct”. See, 3-303(e)(1).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the screecher screaming SEXUAL ASSAULT. That's ridiculous. Here's what I tell me boys because of women like her: don't talk to anyone. Deny everything and call us. We have a great lawyer on speed dial.

Perfect. That’s exactly what females want: to live their lives without being harassed by males. I’d love it if random guys stopped talking to me.

Anonymous randos here don't want to talk to you. I wouldn't worry about it.

she is talking about IRL....it happens all the time.

[Anonymous]

I like to beleive the people screaming here are just unloved miserable folk who wish for some kind of appreciation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

And, how do you stop them from doing that in the future to someone else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

And, how do you stop them from doing that in the future to someone else?

You don’t. You can’t control other people. You are only responsible for yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

And, how do you stop them from doing that in the future to someone else?

You don’t. You can’t control other people. You are only responsible for yourself.

So you do not believe in any criminal laws. If Johnny kills your kid -- that's fine. After all, you are only responsible for yourself.

[Anonymous]

So, some of you think ass pinching is something to let go? So, where do you draw the line?

What if he rubbed her ass?
Pinched her breast?
Hugged her and pressed his penis into her ass cheek?
Stuck a hand inside her swimsuit and rubbed her hip?

The letting things go is a slippery slope. What message to teens? Some stuff is ok, but, some not? How are they supposed to know? Obviously OP’s daughter felt bad about what happened, is she supposed to know to just let it go and feel bad if it’s ass pinching, but, hey! If he’d pinched your vagina, now we will do something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, some of you think ass pinching is something to let go? So, where do you draw the line?

What if he rubbed her ass?
Pinched her breast?
Hugged her and pressed his penis into her ass cheek?
Stuck a hand inside her swimsuit and rubbed her hip?

The letting things go is a slippery slope. What message to teens? Some stuff is ok, but, some not? How are they supposed to know? Obviously OP’s daughter felt bad about what happened, is she supposed to know to just let it go and feel bad if it’s ass pinching, but, hey! If he’d pinched your vagina, now we will do something?

Yes you crazy lady: some stuff you let go, and some stuff you don’t. How do some of you manage to leave your house every day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

And, how do you stop them from doing that in the future to someone else?

You don’t. You can’t control other people. You are only responsible for yourself.

So you do not believe in any criminal laws. If Johnny kills your kid -- that's fine. After all, you are only responsible for yourself.

Yes, clearly that was the implication. No laws. Duh. After all, if we had laws against murder, no one would get murdered, obviously! Because laws are preventative, not punitive!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

And, how do you stop them from doing that in the future to someone else?

You don’t. You can’t control other people. You are only responsible for yourself.

So you do not believe in any criminal laws. If Johnny kills your kid -- that's fine. After all, you are only responsible for yourself.

Yes, clearly that was the implication. No laws. Duh. After all, if we had laws against murder, no one would get murdered, obviously! Because laws are preventative, not punitive!

You've lost. Give it up. You have boxed yourself into an absurd corner, because you think that its only a little sexual assualt. No big deal. Step back and ask yourself: Do I really think it would be okay if a kid did this to my kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, some of you think ass pinching is something to let go? So, where do you draw the line?

What if he rubbed her ass?
Pinched her breast?
Hugged her and pressed his penis into her ass cheek?
Stuck a hand inside her swimsuit and rubbed her hip?

The letting things go is a slippery slope. What message to teens? Some stuff is ok, but, some not? How are they supposed to know? Obviously OP’s daughter felt bad about what happened, is she supposed to know to just let it go and feel bad if it’s ass pinching, but, hey! If he’d pinched your vagina, now we will do something?

Yes you crazy lady: some stuff you let go, and some stuff you don’t. How do some of you manage to leave your house every day?

So, where is the line? What do you tell your kids? Or are you saying, you’re good with all those things happening to your daughter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the mom of teen boys who think this is just boys being idiots will at least read this thread and talk to their boys about not touching other people without their consent.

Excuse me? I sure hope you are teaching your girls the same. I don't appreciate girls touching my sons butt, biceps, or chest..nor anything else.

So you agree the boys in the OP were wrong?

Well no duh they were wrong.
No one said they were behaving properly.
You don't seem to be able to appreciate the degrees of life.
They were wrong. Should the daughter harp on it? No. Does she need trauma therapy? No. Should the dad have done anything differently? Probably not. He respected her wishes. Should those kids be buried up to their necks and stoned in the streets? No. Do girls get away with crapnlike that all the time? Yes.
It was a bad thing. Bad things happen. It helps to keep things in perspective in life.

I am glad you agree they were wrong but I think you may need a lesson in seeing nuance and avoiding whataboutism.

There is a middle ground between stoning (!) and letting them off with no consequences. They didn’t suffer any consequences for their actions. Whatever burden they created from this incident fell on the victim. Yes, I know, that’s life. But you seem to think that’s acceptable.

What other people do has no bearing on what is right/wrong. Are you saying it’s ok for boys to shoplift because some girls shoplift?