Girls, 13 and 15, Charged With Murder After Armed Carjacking Near Nationals Park

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this actually sticks and they don't end up back out on the loose in a week or so. Interesting that one is from MD and one from DC, wonder if the charges/punishments will be the same.

Monday afternoon - isn't there "school" - where are the parents/guardians?

No. There is not school now. And this reality is growing our crime rates. How do you not know that schools are still closed?

I KNOW that schools are still closed to IPL, but they are supposedly teaching them online. Which is a joke. And no one cares. If they were skipping school, then MAYBE post-Relisha Rudd, someone would notice their whereabouts, but doubtful. Juvenile detention and rehab is fine for them, but I want the parents/guardians CHARGED.

Not that children are pets, but if my dog gets off leash and bites someone, I am the responsible party. If someone slips on my front walk because I didn't shovel the snow, I am the responsible party. Since they are young, where is the ADULT responsible party? THEY need rehab and training.

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Anonymous wrote:Open the schools. This is all the fault of DCPS.

The fault of DCPS?? Are you kidding me? At what point do people take ownership of their OWN actions? There's always someone else to blame. And our society has gone mental and decided that there should be less punishment, thus teaching people that there are no real repercussions for doing criminal activities. Just look at what they're doing at the schools- and the push to remove SROs, who for some kids are the only role models they may have.

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Thanks goodness for the national guard troops who were nearby and detained the senseless murderers right after it happened.

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Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

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Jokes on you. I am a lawyer. From an elite institution no less. The scariest part (at least from your perspective) is that many of my classmates share my views on the criminal justice system and these views are gaining more power in liberal cities such as DC.

I left that part out because it likely isn't true. There is every reason to believe they didn't want to steal the car through violently harming someone. They wanted to steal the car, most likely preferably without any violence. That this isn't how it played out doesn't change their intent going in.

No, the joke's not on us. The really sad, cruel "joke" is that people like you give kids permission to think that they have an excuse for bad behavior, instead of aiming high, doing their best in school, and trying to stay out of trouble. The cruelest "joke" is that their lives get ruined by their criminal behavior. Furthermore, your way of thinking is insulting to the many people who grow up in extreme poverty but don't commit serious, violent crimes.

How old are you (and the classmates) that stated the bolded? Kids for the past 20-25 years have not been allowed small failures which help teach them how to handle (or preferably avoid) large failures. I'm just curious if the idea is catching on because accountability is so foreign to your generation.

wtf? do you actually believe these girls did tjid because they “weren’t allowed small failures”? that if only they had been given a more free-range childhood they wouldn’t have violently carjacked and murdered someone? actually sounds like they were pretty free range.

oh, no, no, you misunderstood why/what I asked. I think the girls have deep, deep issues and reasons behind what they did. I'm wondering about poster's motivation. I just wondered if a generation who grew up without consequences actually finds consequences less important overall.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

DP - but I think the part where there are two young teenage girls who are committing an armed carjacking is probably why she was thinking gangland. I mean, I guess they could be friends from church.

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When the youth commit crimes, the places they are removed to need to engage in actual reform with measurable wickets -- GED, community work, job skills (and let's start with stuff like cleaning and work up from there). They should not be released to the community until a panel affirms that they are both penitent, and have put in the work to meet measureable benchmarks, to learn what is needed to be productive adult members of society. If they are incorrigible, they stay separated until they figure out their *--with society's supoprt of course. I don't want to hear about any more Charles Allen type youth reform laws, until he addresses the actual rehabilitation planned + implementedfor the short time these youth are separated from society before being released as he wishes. Right now, the kiddos know society has no expectations for them, and they'll be out tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

DP - but I think the part where there are two young teenage girls who are committing an armed carjacking is probably why she was thinking gangland. I mean, I guess they could be friends from church.

Like the ATlanta gun man, good churchgoing bad day boy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

If the two of them planned together to carjack a car and thought to obtain a taser without the help of others, then there more hardened than the Stanford atty poster suggested.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

If the two of them planned together to carjack a car and thought to obtain a taser without the help of others, then there more hardened than the Stanford atty poster suggested.

they're more hardened

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how these two girls know each other? One is 2 years older and from a different neighborhood (and even a different jurisdiction, so clearly they didn't go to school together). Unless they are cousins, that suggests gang involvement to me. Generally girls don't just spontaneously get into trouble with some kid from another state that is a couple years older than they are. If it was school friends or neighbors, this would look a little different.

I'm a big proponant of not fighting back if someone tries to steal your property --- but even I might not give it up right away to children. I'm sure I've had kids say stuff like "Hey lady, give me your phone" and I've been like "Yeah, right, take a hike." You don't expect a kid to kill you for it -- you figure they are just goofing around.

I also once had a bunch of little boys threaten to gang rape me, and I ignored that, although I spent the next two days wondering if I should have lectured them about what their grandmothers would think if they heard them. If they had been adults, I would have called the cops, certainly.

You never had friends from another city 2 years older than you? What bubble did you live in that you go straight to thinking gangland?

DP - but I think the part where there are two young teenage girls who are committing an armed carjacking is probably why she was thinking gangland. I mean, I guess they could be friends from church.

Like the ATlanta gun man, good churchgoing bad day boy?

He is an adult and not a boy. He will be locked up somewhere for the rest of his life--either in an institution or prison.

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I am guessing that the girls are related, which does not rule out gang activity.

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Only one more page until Jeff holds the girls up as victims and the old man the aggressor