New TJ Lawsuit Filed 3/10/21 by Pacific Legal Foundation

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

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TJ needed to be changed to be more inclusive, nothing racist about that.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know this isn't about who studies more. There were people actually cheating on the TJ exams and I wouldn't be surprised if there is widespread cheating in certain communities to get a leg up. There is nothing good about the way the old system worked. The new system sucks too but at least it gives a more even playing field.

28% of the class of 2024 came from one single prep company. 133 kids. That same company only had 50 kids admitted a year before.

It will be interesting to see what, if any, impact the list of prepped students has on college admissions. The first and last names of the kids prepped in 2022, 2023 and 2024 are out there and it will likely be shared with college admissions officers. There was a case last year or the year before where a student saw another student has his direct competition for college admissions. The targeted student was tricked into saying a racist term on camera and the other student shares the video with top college admissions.

Other TJ students have already discussed their plans to use these lists against the Curie students, which tells you something about the deep toxicity of the TJ environment. It's not likely, however, to have any sort of impact at all in the college admissions process.

Curie didn't really do anything illegal here, as disgusting and shameful as it was. They shouldn't have any legal liability. But they absolutely did have a major impact on testing being removed as a component of the TJ admissions process, and as a consequence will likely be the single biggest influence in the upcoming decline in the Indian American TJ population over the next 5-10 years.

The lawsuit against FCPS still isn't going anywhere.

hopefully the county uses the lawsuit as an opportunity to depose the students and curie staff. Tough spot for the students, lie under oath and risk the penalties or tell the truth and get expelled

I mean, TJ students don't get expelled for cheating repeatedly while they're actually in the school. There's no way they'd get expelled for this. Might face some repercussions from the company that produces the Quant-Q, since that's supposed to be a secure exam.

I heard the reason so many TJ kids chose virtual over in person is because it's easier to cheat. Is cheating really that rampant?

It is not a huge percentage of students at TJ who cheat - rather the issue is that you have a smallish cohort of students who are very dedicated to it and very good at it, and who use it to create imbalances in the college admissions process.

It is a source of great frustration at TJ every year when several of the universally known cheaters are admitted to desirable universities. And I mean, these are kids in some cases who have been caught multiple times. But there's no mechanism for removing them from the school, basically no matter how many times they're caught.

Why is there no mechanism in place for removing them? Given that they’ve been caught multiple times?

FCPS won't allow it. Oddly enough, they'll allow TJ to remove kids for having less than a 3.0, but not for repeated academic integrity issues. Sends a poor message.

Unbelievable. I’m failing to understand this, is it to protect the school’s reputation? If so, it’s not working because now it’s known as a school that ignores and even promotes cheating.

Beats the hell out of me. The only thing I've ever heard is that they're afraid that removing a student for a cheating conviction would invite litigation.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

It is not a belief of most of the pro-reform crowd that students or parents are here illegally.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

It is not a belief of most of the pro-reform crowd that students or parents are here illegally.

You don't know that for a fact. TJ as a school was doing fine. The 'reform' was solely motivated by race.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

It is not a belief of most of the pro-reform crowd that students or parents are here illegally.

You don't know that for a fact. TJ as a school was doing fine. The 'reform' was solely motivated by race.

"Motivated by race" and "believe people are here illegally" are two very, very different charges. The reform is motivated by endless research that legitimate diversity in work and education spaces produces stronger and more socially-conscious outputs. Not altogether unlike diversity in a gene pool producing stronger offspring.

Status quo adherents (QuoAnons) believe that the removal of a metric that empirically favors their approach to education at the expense of everyone else - which has created a deeply homogeneous TJ population and has led to severe over-representation at other elite institutions - is racist. The relevant comparison here would be to southern whites in the Jim Crow era arguing that the removal of literacy tests to limit access to the franchise would be somehow "racist against white people". It's not a perfect comparison, because access to elite education is by no means a right in the same way that voting is, but the argument that removing standardized exams is somehow "anti-Asian" is equally absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

It is not a belief of most of the pro-reform crowd that students or parents are here illegally.

You don't know that for a fact. TJ as a school was doing fine. The 'reform' was solely motivated by race.

Also, the idea that TJ as a school is "doing fine" or has been for some time is nonsense. Far, far too many kids there are dealing with deep mental health issues that are brutally stigmatized within their own communities and in their homes - and it's because they're comparing themselves to each other constantly. The "academic flex" culture is out of control and results in most students believing that everyone around them is perfect and that they themselves are deeply inadequate. It's the same thing you see with instagram users nowadays, but it hits right at the core of these kids identities, which are wrapped up in being the smartest kids in the room, desperate for that acceptance letter to Yale.

TJ has a #1 ranking that is built on the back of outmoded and obsolete standardized tests that elite universities are running away from. Their admissions process has always existed in service of that ranking and FINALLY they are fixing their priorities. It's morning in Alexandria.

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It’s disgusting to me how people make such broad based statements about TJ’s “culture.” Most based on tales on DCUM and confident statements about TJ and its students by people with no direct experience with TJ that are spread through neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani and her cronies have just lost it. They are making parents contribute 1000s for filing their lawsuits and one would think they would not be able to to survive in this world if their kids did not make it to TJ. Their Telegram group is unbelievable - making me wonder if these parents even work, or their whole day goes in obsessing about TJ. The whole movement initiated by her, her articles, propaganda are so negative.

A lot of the TJ parents are here illegally and put a lot of pressure on the students, that's why it looks so desperate.

The anti-TJ, the so called reform group are just racist and ignorant as the anti-immigrant crowd. The school board and Brabrand show their true color by acting on their behalf.

It is not a belief of most of the pro-reform crowd that students or parents are here illegally.

You don't know that for a fact. TJ as a school was doing fine. The 'reform' was solely motivated by race.

Also, the idea that TJ as a school is "doing fine" or has been for some time is nonsense. Far, far too many kids there are dealing with deep mental health issues that are brutally stigmatized within their own communities and in their homes - and it's because they're comparing themselves to each other constantly. The "academic flex" culture is out of control and results in most students believing that everyone around them is perfect and that they themselves are deeply inadequate. It's the same thing you see with instagram users nowadays, but it hits right at the core of these kids identities, which are wrapped up in being the smartest kids in the room, desperate for that acceptance letter to Yale.

TJ has a #1 ranking that is built on the back of outmoded and obsolete standardized tests that elite universities are running away from. Their admissions process has always existed in service of that ranking and FINALLY they are fixing their priorities. It's morning in Alexandria.

I think you hit the nail on the head, parents need to adjust their thinking and approach to education. Students will be better off with the changes to TJ, it's the parents that need to give themselves an attitude adjustment, stop making lawsuits and false racial claims. This is about what is best for students and it's happening. Amen!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting to me how people make such broad based statements about TJ’s “culture.” Most based on tales on DCUM and confident statements about TJ and its students by people with no direct experience with TJ that are spread through neighborhoods.

And then there are others who have been around the school for dozens of years and have watched the whole sordid story unfold. And who know EXACTLY what they're talking about.

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Do those against the changes have any argument other than “the number of Asians would decrease”? Because that’s not a good argument. Going from being an extreme majority to less of a majority is still being a majority. How else do they expect the number of Black and Latinx students to increase? It’s not like underrepresented students can be increased without decreasing the overrepresented students. This is basic math.

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Anonymous wrote:Do those against the changes have any argument other than “the number of Asians would decrease”? Because that’s not a good argument. Going from being an extreme majority to less of a majority is still being a majority. How else do they expect the number of Black and Latinx students to increase? It’s not like underrepresented students can be increased without decreasing the overrepresented students. This is basic math.

The core of their argument is that it shouldn't matter the identity of the students at the school - rather that the best way to determine merit is (surprise surprise) a metric that they have dominated for decades.

And that there is no inherent value in diversity. They don't want the number of Black and Latinx students to increase.

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Anonymous wrote:Do those against the changes have any argument other than “the number of Asians would decrease”? Because that’s not a good argument. Going from being an extreme majority to less of a majority is still being a majority. How else do they expect the number of Black and Latinx students to increase? It’s not like underrepresented students can be increased without decreasing the overrepresented students. This is basic math.

I think that any admission process should be race blind. We need to treat every person as a valuable unique individual, not as “black” or “white”. I find it offensive to group people by race and count how many students of each color a school or college has. It’s like a farmer that counts their pigs by breed. We don’t have to belong to any breed.

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In a way I don't really blame the Asian communities for being offended by attempts to improve diversity because they have placed so much of their inherent self-worth as individuals into their academic success and college admissions.

To them, someone else getting in ahead of them means that the admissions folks determined that that student was BETTER than theirs - when that's not what the admissions teams are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ needed to be changed to be more inclusive, nothing racist about that.

I mean, I think thats pretty definitionally racist.