New TJ Lawsuit Filed 3/10/21 by Pacific Legal Foundation

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Then do something fit the most vulnerable group in our society, the Asian Americans. A society will be judged by how it treats its weakest group.

Asian Americans - and especially the ones who are making the most noise with respect to TJ admissions - are nowhere CLOSE to the most vulnerable group in our society. Nowhere CLOSE. And honestly, you'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that they are.

You can mock, spit, kick and say racist things about Asians and nothing will happen. Can you do that about any other group?

Yes. Literally any other group. Get your head out of the sand.

Huh? Black people have been getting murdered with impunity for years.

And Asians except you won’t hear about it because media will not cover those. Get your head out of the sand.

BS. Asians have become a protected class.

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Then do something fit the most vulnerable group in our society, the Asian Americans. A society will be judged by how it treats its weakest group.

Asian Americans - and especially the ones who are making the most noise with respect to TJ admissions - are nowhere CLOSE to the most vulnerable group in our society. Nowhere CLOSE. And honestly, you'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that they are.

You can mock, spit, kick and say racist things about Asians and nothing will happen. Can you do that about any other group?

Yes. Literally any other group. Get your head out of the sand.

Huh? Black people have been getting murdered with impunity for years.

And Asians except you won’t hear about it because media will not cover those. Get your head out of the sand.

BS. Asians have become a protected class.

Asians have become a targeted class.

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Nope. I firmly believe in capitalism, maximizing my wealth. However, I'm more than happy to pay taxes and ensure that everyone gets good wages to be able to live comfortably with one full-time job, pay teachers good salaries so the future generations are educated, etc. My ability to pay six figure taxes to fund society is what gives me fulfillment.

That's awesome and good for you! The rest of us genuinely appreciate your contributions - and wish that more people of significant means had your attitude with respect to paying your fair share.

But you run aground when you assume everyone else either does or should have the same goals. =

Not really. You were claiming that Blacks are intellectually inferior. I was making the point they were not. You seem to value intelligence for its own sake (as measured by IQ). I am of the opinion that Intelligence is just a path to wealth. I don't care what others do with their intelligence. My original point stands, Blacks are not inferior intellectually in any way to you, me, the Chinese or the Jews. Why are you propagating such negative stereotypes?

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Then do something fit the most vulnerable group in our society, the Asian Americans. A society will be judged by how it treats its weakest group.

Asian Americans - and especially the ones who are making the most noise with respect to TJ admissions - are nowhere CLOSE to the most vulnerable group in our society. Nowhere CLOSE. And honestly, you'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that they are.

You can mock, spit, kick and say racist things about Asians and nothing will happen. Can you do that about any other group?

Yes. Literally any other group. Get your head out of the sand.

Huh? Black people have been getting murdered with impunity for years.

And Asians except you won’t hear about it because media will not cover those. Get your head out of the sand.

Okay so you believe that Asians are being treated bad as well as Blacks have and I think we should correct any injustices that are happening to the Asians. But what sorts of things do you think should be done to correct all the injustices that the slaves and the descendants of the people who were enslaved on US soil because they were black have been suffering for over 600 years?

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Then do something fit the most vulnerable group in our society, the Asian Americans. A society will be judged by how it treats its weakest group.

Asian Americans - and especially the ones who are making the most noise with respect to TJ admissions - are nowhere CLOSE to the most vulnerable group in our society. Nowhere CLOSE. And honestly, you'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that they are.

You can mock, spit, kick and say racist things about Asians and nothing will happen. Can you do that about any other group?

Yes. Literally any other group. Get your head out of the sand.

Huh? Black people have been getting murdered with impunity for years.

And Asians except you won’t hear about it because media will not cover those. Get your head out of the sand.

Okay so you believe that Asians are being treated bad as well as Blacks have and I think we should correct any injustices that are happening to the Asians. But what sorts of things do you think should be done to correct all the injustices that the slaves and the descendants of the people who were enslaved on US soil because they were black have been suffering for over 600 years?

NP. Can you outline what "correct any injustices" entails so there are no more calls to "correct any injustices"? In other words, when will this "correct injustices" stop so we can begin to start treating everyone like equals and don't have any pretend reasons to discriminate against minorities that are actually putting in the hard work, because, you know, that's how it SHOULD be done..

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Anonymous wrote:For whatever reason, blacks have a lower IQ than whites and asians. Studies have shown that IQ can increase generationally with education. We need to make sure that blacks value education more. Education has to be the primary focus. Sadly, we are a long way from that. I would like to see a marshall type plan that from day 1 of school makes the child and parent realize that education of the child is the most important component of raising the child.

That only applies to some Asians. IQ of Indians is quite low. Future generations in America might settle the nurture vs nature debate,

You must be the poster who posts often extolling the virtues of Jewish and Chinese intelligence . The IQ tests are generally flawed and the results are highly correlated with level of education. I bet the IQ of Black kids will be about the same as everyone else if you adjust for level of education and family wealth/status.

Assuming your theory that "some Asians" are more intelligent than Indians is true and the same "cream of the crop" left their respective countries to come to the US, how come Indians are wiping the floor with pretty much all other Asians in almost all disciplines? Evidence: Google average family income by ethnicity.

On the other hand, if your statement that "IQ of Indians is quite low" is true and yet a good number of them are very successful in the US, why can't Blacks achieve the same results? It's all about the education and mindset..

Income is not the same as intelligence. Indian immigrants are not representative of all Indians.

You can have your intelligence then. Print your IQ score and use it in wipe your a** for all I care. If intelligence cannot be used in a productive pursuit which in turn results in the accumulation of an economic advantage to the person deploying such intelligence, what's its purpose?

DP - the purpose of intelligence would be the betterment of society, not the accumulation of economic advantage to an individual. Attitudes like yours are the literal definition of "toxic".

Your ability to weave "toxic" into any discussion and your expectation that people do anything for the betterment of society without some kind of advantage to them shows your mindset.. You are either a Liberal Arts baby that never really had to work for money or a moocher that wants to live off other people's work.

Pro tip - No one does squat unless there's something in it for them. Betterment of society is a by product that flows from society's economic well being, not the other way around.

I mean, there's some truth to this, because many people are genuinely motivated by improving the conditions around them for everyone's sake.

My mindset is pretty simple. Choose a field (in my case education) that pays you enough to be able to enjoy life while providing value for others in a way that creates a genuine sense of fulfillment. I'm pretty happy and I have a tremendously positive impact on my environment and surroundings. Can you say the same?

Then do something fit the most vulnerable group in our society, the Asian Americans. A society will be judged by how it treats its weakest group.

Asian Americans - and especially the ones who are making the most noise with respect to TJ admissions - are nowhere CLOSE to the most vulnerable group in our society. Nowhere CLOSE. And honestly, you'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that they are.

You can mock, spit, kick and say racist things about Asians and nothing will happen. Can you do that about any other group?

Yes. Literally any other group. Get your head out of the sand.

Huh? Black people have been getting murdered with impunity for years.

And Asians except you won’t hear about it because media will not cover those. Get your head out of the sand.

Okay so you believe that Asians are being treated bad as well as Blacks have and I think we should correct any injustices that are happening to the Asians. But what sorts of things do you think should be done to correct all the injustices that the slaves and the descendants of the people who were enslaved on US soil because they were black have been suffering for over 600 years?

NP. Can you outline what "correct any injustices" entails so there are no more calls to "correct any injustices"? In other words, when will this "correct injustices" stop so we can begin to start treating everyone like equals and don't have any pretend reasons to discriminate against minorities that are actually putting in the hard work, because, you know, that's how it SHOULD be done..

I'd like to understand this too. People think a group that makes up 10% or so of the population is being mistreated when they fail to get anything less than 70% of the magnet seats?