Gender identity vote tonight, What does it mean? Are you allowed to switch teachers if they are tran

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you didn't keep up with the votes and issues doesn't mean it is secret. The school boss doesn't have to knock on your door and hold your hand.

This. We need blanket anti-discrimination laws and positions. We don't need to carve out special groups.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you didn't keep up with the votes and issues doesn't mean it is secret. The school boss doesn't have to knock on your door and hold your hand.

This. We need blanket anti-discrimination laws and positions. We don't need to carve out special groups.

What would such a law/position would look like? Would it include not discriminating against people who refuse to do their job (i.e., not firing them)?

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No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

I didn't hear all the testimony, but I did hear that one. I cringed. He certainly didn't help his side.

I was against passage last night. I think they need the policy first. I have no problems with it otherwise.

If anything, this really makes me question the 25% Hispanic population at my daughter's school. Is this how deeply religious Hispanic Catholics really feel, or is this just a wacky outlier? I don't want my daughter so steeped in religious discrimination. I wonder if there is a delicate way to bring this up to her, and the school administration...

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Anonymous wrote:How many transgendered students does fcps have? How many teachers or administrators? At some point, isn't this all a colossal waste of time, money, resources for a tiny percentage of transgendered people?

I know at least two.

I'd like real statistics.

Will fcps write inclusive language to protect nudists? Teachers with full facial tattoos? Skinheads? Not trying to be flippant about this, but think his is a dangerous road to travel and will set precedents for truly odd inclusions.

This is what ever right wing nut job says about every basic human right granted to a minority. Slippery slope, etc. Enough. There isn't a slippery slope.

See this is the problem. Aren't we supposed to be mutually respectful? Isn't that what the vote was about? But if someone disagrees on this issue, they are a right wing nut job. What about the rights of the right wing nut job? Oh yeah that's right, they have none.

No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

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Anonymous wrote:How many transgendered students does fcps have? How many teachers or administrators? At some point, isn't this all a colossal waste of time, money, resources for a tiny percentage of transgendered people?

I know at least two.

I'd like real statistics.

Will fcps write inclusive language to protect nudists? Teachers with full facial tattoos? Skinheads? Not trying to be flippant about this, but think his is a dangerous road to travel and will set precedents for truly odd inclusions.

This is what ever right wing nut job says about every basic human right granted to a minority. Slippery slope, etc. Enough. There isn't a slippery slope.

See this is the problem. Aren't we supposed to be mutually respectful? Isn't that what the vote was about? But if someone disagrees on this issue, they are a right wing nut job. What about the rights of the right wing nut job? Oh yeah that's right, they have none.

No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

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There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

But you are just as guilty of lumping everyone who disagrees with the policy in with him.

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No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

It IS a mental illness! People who cannot accept their own gender for what it is--and cannot accept that biology is not something about themselves that can or should be changed--are delusional! These people should not be serving as role models for young children, and teaching them that this type of delusional behavior is part of the mainstream. And I don't care if you think I'm an idiot. I do not want my child to grow up thinking that self-mutilation and a lifetime of hormone therapy is normal, acceptable behavior.

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There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

But you are just as guilty of lumping everyone who disagrees with the policy in with him.

I don't agree with spending a lot of time and money on adding neutral bathrooms, consultants, etc. - but opposing adding 2 words to an already widely-netted anti-discrimination policy? This is what the board members and citizen oppositions are opposing.

The opposition needs to send in people who are not crazy. The closest one was the OB/GYN, but I will be darn sure to ask my OB/GYN if she support trans women the next time I see her, and if not, GOODBYE!!! She has always come off as warm, welcoming, and non-discriminatory, so I doubt that she is.

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Anonymous wrote:How many transgendered students does fcps have? How many teachers or administrators? At some point, isn't this all a colossal waste of time, money, resources for a tiny percentage of transgendered people?

I know at least two.

I'd like real statistics.

Will fcps write inclusive language to protect nudists? Teachers with full facial tattoos? Skinheads? Not trying to be flippant about this, but think his is a dangerous road to travel and will set precedents for truly odd inclusions.

This is what ever right wing nut job says about every basic human right granted to a minority. Slippery slope, etc. Enough. There isn't a slippery slope.

See this is the problem. Aren't we supposed to be mutually respectful? Isn't that what the vote was about? But if someone disagrees on this issue, they are a right wing nut job. What about the rights of the right wing nut job? Oh yeah that's right, they have none.

No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

You are absolutely terrifying.

The right to think, believe, say and protest whatever you want is our most precious and important freedoms and should be protected above all else.

Our courts and "proper legal channels" should only be used to protect this speech and NOT to shut it down just because the elite class of the day deems it offensive.

The right to dissent, even by the objectionable, is a very precious freedom and cannot be taken away.

Be very careful on this path you are advocating. Some day you might find yourself as the one not in power, and the one whose voice is deemed not worth hearing, too "dangerous" to be spoken, and too offensive to be allowed by a very small group of power hungry people.

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Anonymous wrote:How many transgendered students does fcps have? How many teachers or administrators? At some point, isn't this all a colossal waste of time, money, resources for a tiny percentage of transgendered people?

I know at least two.

I'd like real statistics.

Will fcps write inclusive language to protect nudists? Teachers with full facial tattoos? Skinheads? Not trying to be flippant about this, but think his is a dangerous road to travel and will set precedents for truly odd inclusions.

This is what ever right wing nut job says about every basic human right granted to a minority. Slippery slope, etc. Enough. There isn't a slippery slope.

See this is the problem. Aren't we supposed to be mutually respectful? Isn't that what the vote was about? But if someone disagrees on this issue, they are a right wing nut job. What about the rights of the right wing nut job? Oh yeah that's right, they have none.

No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

You are absolutely terrifying.

The right to think, believe, say and protest whatever you want is our most precious and important freedoms and should be protected above all else.

Our courts and "proper legal channels" should only be used to protect this speech and NOT to shut it down just because the elite class of the day deems it offensive.

The right to dissent, even by the objectionable, is a very precious freedom and cannot be taken away.

Be very careful on this path you are advocating. Some day you might find yourself as the one not in power, and the one whose voice is deemed not worth hearing, too "dangerous" to be spoken, and too offensive to be allowed by a very small group of power hungry people.

+1. Agreed. What if someone decided your thoughts needed to be stamped out? You think that it will always go in your favor, but suppose it doesn't and you are the minority opinion about something.

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Anonymous wrote:How many transgendered students does fcps have? How many teachers or administrators? At some point, isn't this all a colossal waste of time, money, resources for a tiny percentage of transgendered people?

I know at least two.

The flood gates are now open and they will over take a bunch of teaching positions to influence students

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No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.

It IS a mental illness! People who cannot accept their own gender for what it is--and cannot accept that biology is not something about themselves that can or should be changed--are delusional! These people should not be serving as role models for young children, and teaching them that this type of delusional behavior is part of the mainstream. And I don't care if you think I'm an idiot. I do not want my child to grow up thinking that self-mutilation and a lifetime of hormone therapy is normal, acceptable behavior.

Atheist here. I agree. It's a mental illness. That's why I am on the fence. I don't think we need to jump through hoops to cater to transgender people while they work out their illness, but then, we do have to make sure buildings are handicap accessible and so forth, so those are related, right? I mean, we have to be kind to people.

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No, I'm not ever going to be respectful of a group of idiots who say things like being trans is a mental illness and that trans people spread HIV rampantly, or that since there are a lot of catholic Hispanics in FCPS, we need to not have any trans people in school, and this is racist against them. This is what was said in citizen testimony. This is what the opposition believes. Nope.

You are a part of the ever increasing group of liberals who are just as if not more intolerant than those you brand intolerant. You are not morally superior. When you take this stance, you shut down any discussion and any hope for positive resolution. You are as much a part of the problem as those you dispise. Educate don't hate.


It IS a mental illness! People who cannot accept their own gender for what it is--and cannot accept that biology is not something about themselves that can or should be changed--are delusional! These people should not be serving as role models for young children, and teaching them that this type of delusional behavior is part of the mainstream. And I don't care if you think I'm an idiot. I do not want my child to grow up thinking that self-mutilation and a lifetime of hormone therapy is normal, acceptable behavior.

Atheist here. I agree. It's a mental illness. That's why I am on the fence. I don't think we need to jump through hoops to cater to transgender people while they work out their illness, but then, we do have to make sure buildings are handicap accessible and so forth, so those are related, right? I mean, we have to be kind to people.

Yes, we should be kind to people. But I would disagree that trans are "disabled" people who deserve protections under disability laws. They have created their own problems--that is not true of those who cannot walk, talk, see, or hear.

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There is no educating fools that think like that. There just isn't. Their intolerance must be stamped out through the proper legal channels, like this school board meeting.

But you are just as guilty of lumping everyone who disagrees with the policy in with him.

Did you hear the applause and shouts of support in the audience when he spoke?

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Atheist here. I agree. It's a mental illness. That's why I am on the fence. I don't think we need to jump through hoops to cater to transgender people while they work out their illness, but then, we do have to make sure buildings are handicap accessible and so forth, so those are related, right? I mean, we have to be kind to people.

Yes, we should be kind to people. But I would disagree that trans are "disabled" people who deserve protections under disability laws. They have created their own problems--that is not true of those who cannot walk, talk, see, or hear.






If you think its a mental illness you can't think they've created their own problems. This is an argument about semantics. We shouldn't ostracize people and we should promote acceptance.