Gender identity vote tonight, What does it mean? Are you allowed to switch teachers if they are tran

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Yes, we should be kind to people. But I would disagree that trans are "disabled" people who deserve protections under disability laws. They have created their own problems--that is not true of those who cannot walk, talk, see, or hear.



BS. My neighbor who is disabled from a motorcycle accident fully caused his own disability with his actions, yet he is considered disabled by every sense of the word.
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Anonymous wrote:


Yes, we should be kind to people. But I would disagree that trans are "disabled" people who deserve protections under disability laws. They have created their own problems--that is not true of those who cannot walk, talk, see, or hear.



BS. My neighbor who is disabled from a motorcycle accident fully caused his own disability with his actions, yet he is considered disabled by every sense of the word.

I believe that these people were born with the mismatch between their bodies and something else that makes them feel like they are men or women. I don't think they created the problem. Do you really think people would choose this weirdness and awkwardness? I don't know that I agree with operations and all that to "fix: them...I don't know enough about the science of all of it...so that's why I tread lightly with having an opinion beyond that its a mental illness.
Anonymous
Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

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Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?
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Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


And so it begins...
Anonymous
I believe that these people were born with the mismatch between their bodies and something else that makes them feel like they are men or women. I don't think they created the problem. Do you really think people would choose this weirdness and awkwardness? I don't know that I agree with operations and all that to "fix: them...I don't know enough about the science of all of it...so that's why I tread lightly with having an opinion beyond that its a mental illness.


I don't know--and I really don't care why. If they say they are, that is enough. However, they are not biologically the other sex.

However, your neighbor who is disabled has special accomodations made for him. We have wheelchair ramps, etc. Maybe we need to go to unisex bathrooms. Personally, I don't care for the idea. It also will be quite expensive.

This issue, however, brings other issues: sports and bathrooms for two.

Is it really right for a biological boy to be on a girls' softball team?
Is that fair to the other team?

I have no problem with a biological girl being on a male team if she can meet the physical standards, but is it fair for it to work the other way? Is that not why we have Title IX?
Are we going to unisex teams? That will not help the girls.

For years, tradition at my kids' high school had different colors for the boys and girls at graduation. A couple of years ago they changed it to one color. We all know why. I guess that is okay--but the kids were kind of disappointed. They liked the look the two colors brought. Probably the right decision, though.

Watching the testimony--particularly, the last young man who spoke, you cannot help but have your heart go out to these kids. But, is this really going to help them?

Several years ago, at my kids' high school, we had a male cheerleader(not the one mentioned last night.) I guess he enjoyed it, he wasn't very good at it, though, and had he been a girl, I doubt he would have been selected. However, he was on the team. He may have been transgender, my kids seemed to think so, but he did dress as a male cheerleader.

It's a difficult issue--but it would not have hurt to work out the kinks in the policy before they passed it.





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Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


Keene Mill. I don't know that I have a problem with it. It's boiler plate ACLU-type stuff. Savvy parents have a way of getting what they want.
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Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


And so it begins...



Care to elaborate? I'm not sure what your comment adds to this conversation until you give some more details.
Anonymous
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It's a difficult issue--but it would not have hurt to work out the kinks in the policy before they passed it.



+1000

yes, I think this is a big part of why people are so pissed.
I personally think its a tempest in a teapot and they will just work with kids who are trannies or whatever...
I don't see it being a big deal...
of course, I could be wrong—you never know what kind of crazy shit someone will try to pull
But this thing like boys are going to pretend to be trans so they can get entree into the girls bathroom (yes, these are real comments I am reading on the WaPo articles) seems ridiculous to me
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


Keene Mill. I don't know that I have a problem with it. It's boiler plate ACLU-type stuff. Savvy parents have a way of getting what they want.


Pp here, I don't have a problem with the policy itself, I'm just saying the language used is drastically different in one year. Plus all the other changes. The request from this year just sounds really cold compared to the one from last year.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


Keene Mill. I don't know that I have a problem with it. It's boiler plate ACLU-type stuff. Savvy parents have a way of getting what they want.


Pp here, I don't have a problem with the policy itself, I'm just saying the language used is drastically different in one year. Plus all the other changes. The request from this year just sounds really cold compared to the one from last year.


Maybe she got a lot of weird, inappropriately phrased requests.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal's email about class placement requests this year:

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored.

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year:

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?


Keene Mill. I don't know that I have a problem with it. It's boiler plate ACLU-type stuff. Savvy parents have a way of getting what they want.


Pp here, I don't have a problem with the policy itself, I'm just saying the language used is drastically different in one year. Plus all the other changes. The request from this year just sounds really cold compared to the one from last year.


Maybe she got a lot of weird, inappropriately phrased requests.


Why would you think that?
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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wroterincipal's email about class placement requests this year: 

Class Placement Requests: If you are interested in providing input for your child’s class placement next year, please use the Google form at this LINK. Please note that teacher requests by name or by race, ethnicity, age, gender, or any other potentially discriminatory features will not be honored. 

Principal's email about class placement requests LAST year: 

Each year at this time, we ask parents to provide any necessary information for class placement requests for the coming year. This is voluntary. If you would like to request placement for your child, please write a letter, note, or email to the principal describing the type of environment in which your child would flourish. You may also describe the characteristics of a teacher who would be most effective for your child. Requests for teachers by name will not be honored.


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Wow. Things have been changing ALOT in FCPS in the past couple years. What school, if you don't mind?



Keene Mill. I don't know that I have a problem with it. It's boiler plate ACLU-type stuff. Savvy parents have a way of getting what they want.



Pp here, I don't have a problem with the policy itself, I'm just saying the language used is drastically different in one year. Plus all the other changes. The request from this year just sounds really cold compared to the one from last year.



Maybe she got a lot of weird, inappropriately phrased requests"

Or maybe Keene has a teacher who is planning to transition to another gender right now and they are trying to prepare for the inevitable backlash from none of the parents wanting their elementary student in that class.

Has anyone from another school in that pyramid received a similarly worded letter about class assignments for next year?
Anonymous
Haycock's, which came out a week ago:


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's the video, the issue starts around 30 minutes, there are some really good points brought up by very intelligent people. I just don't have a lot of understanding on how these votes and if it's really anything more than a procedural vote without any input from the community.



Thank you for posting that, it was nice to hear both sides. While I have e compassion for the man who spoke at the end about his experience with feeling fear and being bullied, I can't help but think this was passed too hastily. Like other speakers pointed out, there are states that already have policies in place to address gender fluidity. Why can't we take the time to study them and see what is working, what is not working. I was also surprised to hear from the OB GYN who basically stated that the medical community has not come to a consensus on gender fluidity. What more of a school system?

As for the claim that we'd lose federal funding. Show me where it states that. One of the attorneys who spoke said that while there are anti-discrimination laws, there is no federal law requiring schools to specifically address gender fluidity or lose funding.
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