10 year old girl has to travel out of state to get abortio

Anonymous
They don’t want them to leave the state for an abortion.
They don’t want 10 year olds to have access to abortion.
They don’t care if it kills the pregnant child.
They don’t care if it destroys the pregnant child’s life or future fertility.
They only care about the fetus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PS: I suppose you can criticize the case as not being confirmable.

But you know, right, that this is for the same reason it cannot be denied? And this happens EVERY YEAR, and I'm pretty sure in every state. Even if this were not accurately presented, I'll be damned if it wasn't so in short order.

This happens. This is what adolescent specialty pediatricians deal with. And we report it as child abuse of the most egregious kind, and we support the patient, and we hate it.

Sorry if it inconvenient for your political argument.


The question here is whether or not IF this particular case happened, IF the girl was denied an abortion and had to leave the state to get one.


NP. Let’s just assume this story is correct. Or, hey, let’s go ahead and acknowledge that upper elementary or middle school aged girls end up pregnant, in what is legally rape at that age. Do you not find it disturbing that they should be forced to leave some of these states to obtain an abortion?

Over 30 years ago, I went to school with a girl who was raped by a teenage cousin and became pregnant at 11. Her parents did not pursue an abortion, so she carried the pregnancy. As a 6th grader. She gave birth the summer before 7th grade via c-section, because her body was too small to handle a vaginal birth. The plan was for the girl’s parents to raise the baby as a “sibling”. They relocated shortly after the birth.
This was in a middle-class, heavily Southern Baptist community in central VA. Small town type environment, so EVERYBODY knew the details.


Notice that none of the ghouls answers this. It’s almost like they support this. Like they think this is the way the world should go.


They don't answer because they are the people abusing their cousins. The only reason to want to control others is to victimize them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want them to leave the state for an abortion.
They don’t want 10 year olds to have access to abortion.
They don’t care if it kills the pregnant child.
They don’t care if it destroys the pregnant child’s life or future fertility.
They only care about the fetus.


So let's hypothetically say this 10-year-old wants to and can carry this baby to term. Is she now the legal guardian of this baby or is she now forced to give it up for adoption legally? So does she truly not have any rights in this situation? What if her parents or family do not want to keep it and let's be honest if they had their 10-year-old in a situation to get pregnant, they probably shouldn't keep the baby. Is the 10-year-old out of this abusive situation? If she is, can she take the baby with her and raise it if she wants to? It doesn't seem to me. The state should be able to force her to give a baby up for adoption after they forced her to carry it to term.
Anonymous
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You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
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No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Re:
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You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
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No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?

Of course they didn’t. They just enjoy getting spun up to reduce the sensation of dawning guilt over what their horrific policies are going to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PS: I suppose you can criticize the case as not being confirmable.

But you know, right, that this is for the same reason it cannot be denied? And this happens EVERY YEAR, and I'm pretty sure in every state. Even if this were not accurately presented, I'll be damned if it wasn't so in short order.

This happens. This is what adolescent specialty pediatricians deal with. And we report it as child abuse of the most egregious kind, and we support the patient, and we hate it.

Sorry if it inconvenient for your political argument.


The question here is whether or not IF this particular case happened, IF the girl was denied an abortion and had to leave the state to get one.


NP. Let’s just assume this story is correct. Or, hey, let’s go ahead and acknowledge that upper elementary or middle school aged girls end up pregnant, in what is legally rape at that age. Do you not find it disturbing that they should be forced to leave some of these states to obtain an abortion?

Over 30 years ago, I went to school with a girl who was raped by a teenage cousin and became pregnant at 11. Her parents did not pursue an abortion, so she carried the pregnancy. As a 6th grader. She gave birth the summer before 7th grade via c-section, because her body was too small to handle a vaginal birth. The plan was for the girl’s parents to raise the baby as a “sibling”. They relocated shortly after the birth.
This was in a middle-class, heavily Southern Baptist community in central VA. Small town type environment, so EVERYBODY knew the details.


Notice that none of the ghouls answers this. It’s almost like they support this. Like they think this is the way the world should go.


They don't answer because they are the people abusing their cousins. The only reason to want to control others is to victimize them.


Except the results of the FOIA to the police department disclosed that it never happened. They have no record.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Re:
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You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PS: I suppose you can criticize the case as not being confirmable.

But you know, right, that this is for the same reason it cannot be denied? And this happens EVERY YEAR, and I'm pretty sure in every state. Even if this were not accurately presented, I'll be damned if it wasn't so in short order.

This happens. This is what adolescent specialty pediatricians deal with. And we report it as child abuse of the most egregious kind, and we support the patient, and we hate it.

Sorry if it inconvenient for your political argument.


The question here is whether or not IF this particular case happened, IF the girl was denied an abortion and had to leave the state to get one.


NP. Let’s just assume this story is correct. Or, hey, let’s go ahead and acknowledge that upper elementary or middle school aged girls end up pregnant, in what is legally rape at that age. Do you not find it disturbing that they should be forced to leave some of these states to obtain an abortion?

Over 30 years ago, I went to school with a girl who was raped by a teenage cousin and became pregnant at 11. Her parents did not pursue an abortion, so she carried the pregnancy. As a 6th grader. She gave birth the summer before 7th grade via c-section, because her body was too small to handle a vaginal birth. The plan was for the girl’s parents to raise the baby as a “sibling”. They relocated shortly after the birth.
This was in a middle-class, heavily Southern Baptist community in central VA. Small town type environment, so EVERYBODY knew the details.

Notice that none of the ghouls answers this. It’s almost like they support this. Like they think this is the way the world should go.


No, I don't find it disturbing because I know that residents of those states can now vote otherwise if they so choose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re:
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You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie


Okay. So you have plenty of time ahead to check if it even can be confirmed -- on which you very confidently claimed "You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name."

I'll wait. I know what happens when I call, but you apparently have some super sekret access, so -- please post it when you do. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re:
------------------
You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie

Someone FOIAd every police department in Ohio?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re:
------------------
You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie

Someone FOIAd every police department in Ohio?


What, you think PP would shitpost without having the receipts to back it up? Well, I never! /s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re:
------------------
You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie

Someone FOIAd every police department in Ohio?


What, you think PP would shitpost without having the receipts to back it up? Well, I never! /s


The Ohio DA, police departments, and abortion clinics have no record. In addition, Dr. Bernard is full of comments in the past, was outspoken prior, but now is all 'no comment'. She has a history of not reporting abuse cases to the state, something she is legally bound to do.
Anonymous
This is the first of many fake stories.

The doctor is going to jail if she does not turn over the victim to Indiana or Ohio law enforcement.

She is totally busted for making this up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re:
------------------
You can confirm that an event happened without releasing a name. The doctor went public with it right?

This reminds me of all the stories during the pandemic which also could not be verified. All the crying nurses, etc.
-------------------


No, you cannot. Not as a govenment agency. There are special restrictions on potential identifiers such as age (at any given time, "pregnant" + "specific very young age" in "specific area" is going to be a likely unique identifier). Private citizens are bound by fear of being sued, but public employees have specific presumptive restrictions.

Test it. Call up your local CPS unit -- for DC, it's CFSA at https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect . Ask if they can confirm or deny that, say, there is a pregnant 11 year old. Just do it. I'd bet a paycheck that you do not get a straight yes or no.

Put your money where your mouth it. Test that assumption you are so fond of. See if it holds.


Did you call, PP?


No. I was too busy following up on the results of the FOIA in Ohio. No one - NO ONE can confirm the story. It's a lie

Someone FOIAd every police department in Ohio?


What, you think PP would shitpost without having the receipts to back it up? Well, I never! /s


The Ohio DA, police departments, and abortion clinics have no record. In addition, Dr. Bernard is full of comments in the past, was outspoken prior, but now is all 'no comment'. She has a history of not reporting abuse cases to the state, something she is legally bound to do.

Every police department and county/city/township prosecutor in Ohio?
Anonymous
What an embarrassment for the newspaper for publishing as fact the one source story for clicks and ad revenue. The fact there is nothing to corroborate her story is telling. I do not believe this case happened at all.
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