School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very large public school with 1,800 students, only 30% graduate college ready, about 25% of the school qualifies for discounted lunch. The area is pretty podunk overall, lots of cheap old housing stock, even a trailer park, but also lots of new higher priced sprawl subdivisions as it grows into an exurb of Detroit over the last 10 to 15 years. It appears this alleged shooter lived in a run down old sh*tshack in the seedy old trashy part of town.

Sounds like the Parkland shooter

Parkland, Fla. area is far more affluent than Oxford, Mich. -- 3x more affluent; $350k avg home vs. $950k. The "rich" kids in Oxford live in $400k to $600k new builds, ex.



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1101-Deer-Path-Trl-Oxford-MI-48371/96275238_zpid/

The COL in Parkland is higher. So the houses are the same.



https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/7530-NW-75th-Dr-33067/home/41397885

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Jeff should make a forum for Mass Shooting.

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Anonymous wrote:The name is all over Reddit.

It's all over Twitter too. There's videos of the kid on Youtube from 5-6 years ago - he had a vlog. Seemed like a nerdy, well-meaning kid back then. The parents' home in the video was gross - stained carpets, trash everywhere.

My guess? He was radicalized by the internet and social media, plus one dumb gun-nut parent bought him a handgun.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very large public school with 1,800 students, only 30% graduate college ready, about 25% of the school qualifies for discounted lunch. The area is pretty podunk overall, lots of cheap old housing stock, even a trailer park, but also lots of new higher priced sprawl subdivisions as it grows into an exurb of Detroit over the last 10 to 15 years. It appears this alleged shooter lived in a run down old sh*tshack in the seedy old trashy part of town.

This describes half of the country

And that half of the country has A LOT of guns, likely not secured.

I think laws targeting negligent parents who give their kids access the guns is the right way to start addressing this issue. It can happen quickly in Blue states. I think it will eventually spread to swing states too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

The reason somebody is disgruntled is separate from the fact that he had access to a gun to kill others. If he did not have a gun, no one would be dead. The issue is the lack of gun control in our country and the fact that people bow down to the second amendment as if it itself cannot be amended. Going to become the God of the GOP who seem to worship the NRA and guns.

support for gun control is at a historic low because the “woke” movement has successfully defunded the police in many places (DC, Baltimore, Minnesota, CA).

Not surprisingly, crime is skyrocketing.

With 911 slowly fading away, a gun is my only protection from rape or home invasion robbery.

Before you parrot it: my training and safe-storage means my gun won’t be used against me, so don’t bother trotting out your meaningless and incorrect statistics from the Brady bunch about “a gun in the home.” It is misleading and you know it.

You sound awfully certain about that. Good luck.

wasn't there an incident where a pro-gun woman who taught gun safety classes was shot by her 4 yr old who got a hold of her gun from her handbag in the car?

A gun owner has a high chance of being shot accidently or not by their own gun because there is access to the gun. Most people don't live in high crime urban areas. So, if you live in the burbs and have a gun, you have a higher chance of being shot with your own gun than by a random shooter.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

The reason somebody is disgruntled is separate from the fact that he had access to a gun to kill others. If he did not have a gun, no one would be dead. The issue is the lack of gun control in our country and the fact that people bow down to the second amendment as if it itself cannot be amended. Going to become the God of the GOP who seem to worship the NRA and guns.

support for gun control is at a historic low because the “woke” movement has successfully defunded the police in many places (DC, Baltimore, Minnesota, CA).

Not surprisingly, crime is skyrocketing.

With 911 slowly fading away, a gun is my only protection from rape or home invasion robbery.

Before you parrot it: my training and safe-storage means my gun won’t be used against me, so don’t bother trotting out your meaningless and incorrect statistics from the Brady bunch about “a gun in the home.” It is misleading and you know it.

You sound awfully certain about that. Good luck.

wasn't there an incident where a pro-gun woman who taught gun safety classes was shot by her 4 yr old who got a hold of her gun from her handbag in the car?

A gun owner has a high chance of being shot accidently or not by their own gun because there is access to the gun. Most people don't live in high crime urban areas. So, if you live in the burbs and have a gun, you have a higher chance of being shot with your own gun than by a random shooter.

They also have a higher chance of someone in their household committing suicide with the gun, than using it on a random criminal. It's insanely illogical.

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Anonymous wrote:The name is all over Reddit.

It's all over Twitter too. There's videos of the kid on Youtube from 5-6 years ago - he had a vlog. Seemed like a nerdy, well-meaning kid back then. The parents' home in the video was gross - stained carpets, trash everywhere.

My guess? He was radicalized by the internet and social media, plus one dumb gun-nut parent bought him a handgun.

as stated many times, the extreme right and extremist Islamists have a lot in common.

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Does incel qualify as extreme right or is that it's own thing?

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Anonymous wrote:Does incel qualify as extreme right or is that it's own thing?

They are domestic terrorists, neither right nor left.

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4th kid has now died.

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Anonymous wrote:4th kid has now died.

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Praying for Madisyn, Hana, Tate and Justin and their families.

I remember a Sandy Hook dad talking about sending two children to school in the morning and only one came home. Please remember the very brave Dawn Hochsprung.

So sad and I see no way forward for us.

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Yeah we are gonna get our alternate citizenship and get out of here.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah we are gonna get our alternate citizenship and get out of here.

Sure you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

I would bet anything he was being tormented at school for being poor, pudgy, and unathletic. Bullying is so freaking cruel and typically nobody at large high schools gives a damn.