Summer League Swim 2021

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Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

I think you will see significant changes between now and summer - just today outside restrictions were lessoned. As vaccinations go up the numbers will decline - restrictions will ease and my guess is that by summer they will ease immensely.

Except that the numbers are going up right now, not down.

Are you just trolling, numbers have been dropping sharply for the past 3 weeks or so.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

Yes, they do. You may have given up on safety, but that's why many of us are concerned because of families like you.

Yes, please show us the data on outdoor transmission of covid between kids at outdoor pools.

Right, let’s just pretend no swim kid has had Covid for a hyper competitive parent who has to put their wishes over others health.

Where’s the data?

Ask our lousy government officials. And, our swim teams who have kept positives hidden to keep the teams going.

But were the positives from the team transmitting to each other? Or someone getting it from hanging out in someone else’s home the week before? That’s the difference.

No cases on our high school team.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

Yes, they do. You may have given up on safety, but that's why many of us are concerned because of families like you.

Yes, please show us the data on outdoor transmission of covid between kids at outdoor pools.

Right, let’s just pretend no swim kid has had Covid for a hyper competitive parent who has to put their wishes over others health.

Where’s the data?

Ask our lousy government officials. And, our swim teams who have kept positives hidden to keep the teams going.

But were the positives from the team transmitting to each other? Or someone getting it from hanging out in someone else’s home the week before? That’s the difference.

No cases on our high school team.

Same, and it was indoors during January and February. With mitigation protocols in place I don't expect this summer will be an issue for swim teams.

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Any update from the NVSL meetings

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Anonymous wrote:Any update from the NVSL meetings

Aren't they meeting in April?

Honestly 15% of Virginia is vaccinated - higher in the NoVa area. By summer most will be vaccinated that can be. Covid numbers will plummet. I think that normal practices will be able to held and people will be able to socialize, etc. They might want to limit timers and spectators, or even run meets by age groups (which has been awesome in club swim).

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Anonymous wrote:Any update from the NVSL meetings

Aren't they meeting in April?

Honestly 15% of Virginia is vaccinated - higher in the NoVa area. By summer most will be vaccinated that can be. Covid numbers will plummet. I think that normal practices will be able to held and people will be able to socialize, etc. They might want to limit timers and spectators, or even run meets by age groups (which has been awesome in club swim).

The exec board just met last night. The seeding meeting is March 14.

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Anonymous wrote:Any update from the NVSL meetings

Aren't they meeting in April?

Honestly 15% of Virginia is vaccinated - higher in the NoVa area. By summer most will be vaccinated that can be. Covid numbers will plummet. I think that normal practices will be able to held and people will be able to socialize, etc. They might want to limit timers and spectators, or even run meets by age groups (which has been awesome in club swim).

The exec board just met last night. The seeding meeting is March 14.

Any information out of that? Anyone know?

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Are the teams lobbying for NVSL to standardize the season? (Hope so)

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Are the teams lobbying for NVSL to standardize the season? (Hope so)

What do you mean by standardized? The Return To Competition Committee and board is working on that. What they come up with will be standard across the league.

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Are the teams lobbying for NVSL to standardize the season? (Hope so)

What do you mean by standardized? The Return To Competition Committee and board is working on that. What they come up with will be standard across the league.

Maybe they mean “normal?”

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If anyone has any MCSL updates to share, please feel free.

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Are the teams lobbying for NVSL to standardize the season? (Hope so)

What do you mean by standardized? The Return To Competition Committee and board is working on that. What they come up with will be standard across the league.

Maybe they mean “normal?”

Perhaps, but the season won't be normal as in "back to 2019" normal. There will be changes that have to be made. There will most likely also be some flexibility. For example, if the league allows head to head competition and a host club board decides they can't host both teams then they could swim a their own pools and merge the data. A lot will still depend on restrictions from the Governor and VDH, particularly spacing and capacity.

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Are the teams lobbying for NVSL to standardize the season? (Hope so)

What do you mean by standardized? The Return To Competition Committee and board is working on that. What they come up with will be standard across the league.

Maybe they mean “normal?”

Perhaps, but the season won't be normal as in "back to 2019" normal. There will be changes that have to be made. There will most likely also be some flexibility. For example, if the league allows head to head competition and a host club board decides they can't host both teams then they could swim a their own pools and merge the data. A lot will still depend on restrictions from the Governor and VDH, particularly spacing and capacity.

I think that is fair to say. It is tough to see what the landscape will be this summer. CDC stated that 20% of the eligible population is vaccinated. That will go up dramatically in the next few months. Numbers will go down. So there might be light at the end of the tunnel where distance restrictions will be lifted which means timers, teams, etc.

The committee will need to have multiple plans in place and be flexible.
1. Current standard might be no spectators, limited parents on deck, one team and merge data (most restrictive).
2 The next level might be no spectators, limited parents on deck, two teams but done in blocks by age groups - clearing the pool between groups.
3. No spectators, vaccinated parents on deck - full compliment, two teams no dilineation between age groups.
4. Vaccinated spectators, vaccinated parents on deck....

You get the idea.

But it looks like vaccinated individuals will have their restrictions soon eased byt he CDC. Fauci is already saying that vaccinated people can have small maskless gatherings with one another.

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You may also see a standardized drop in the number of timers. Right now you need three timers per lane, plus the Head Timer plus 2 stroke and turn judges at each end of the pool. That's a LOT of adults. Might drop it to 1 or 2 timers to ease congestion right there. Possibly require adults on deck to be masked.

I think we'll see competitions but with restrictions.

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Anonymous wrote:You may also see a standardized drop in the number of timers. Right now you need three timers per lane, plus the Head Timer plus 2 stroke and turn judges at each end of the pool. That's a LOT of adults. Might drop it to 1 or 2 timers to ease congestion right there. Possibly require adults on deck to be masked.

I think we'll see competitions but with restrictions.

1 timer per lane is part of the discussion, yes.