Summer League Swim 2021

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Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

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Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

Yes, they do. You may have given up on safety, but that's why many of us are concerned because of families like you.

Yes, please show us the data on outdoor transmission of covid between kids at outdoor pools.

Right, let’s just pretend no swim kid has had Covid for a hyper competitive parent who has to put their wishes over others health.

Where’s the data?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

-1

Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

We had the reservation system last year too. We could make reservations a week in advance and there was a limit on how many reservations per week you could make in advance. You could make more reservations than your week’s allotment by getting same day “drop in” slots, which were slots you signed up for the day you wanted to go. That way you could maximize the use of the pool and sign up for times that weren’t full even if you had already used your week’s reservations. It worked really well, but we haven’t heard if we are still going to be using the time slot reservation system this summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

-1

Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

We had the reservation system last year too. We could make reservations a week in advance and there was a limit on how many reservations per week you could make in advance. You could make more reservations than your week’s allotment by getting same day “drop in” slots, which were slots you signed up for the day you wanted to go. That way you could maximize the use of the pool and sign up for times that weren’t full even if you had already used your week’s reservations. It worked really well, but we haven’t heard if we are still going to be using the time slot reservation system this summer.

Same thing and they never filled immediately. We could always get a slot the day of. There were people who wouldn’t show up but the board would email them directly to remind them to not do that and then it counted against their allotted amount.

I’m on the board and we have not yet discussed how this summer will operate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

-1

Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

We had the reservation system last year too. We could make reservations a week in advance and there was a limit on how many reservations per week you could make in advance. You could make more reservations than your week’s allotment by getting same day “drop in” slots, which were slots you signed up for the day you wanted to go. That way you could maximize the use of the pool and sign up for times that weren’t full even if you had already used your week’s reservations. It worked really well, but we haven’t heard if we are still going to be using the time slot reservation system this summer.

Same thing and they never filled immediately. We could always get a slot the day of. There were people who wouldn’t show up but the board would email them directly to remind them to not do that and then it counted against their allotted amount.

I’m on the board and we have not yet discussed how this summer will operate.

It's going to depend on the rules set forth by VDH. If we are on a 10 foot distancing requirement for family groups, I don't see anyway around reservations. That's why we should be lobbying now to restore sense to outdoor pool requirements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

-1

Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

We had the reservation system last year too. We could make reservations a week in advance and there was a limit on how many reservations per week you could make in advance. You could make more reservations than your week’s allotment by getting same day “drop in” slots, which were slots you signed up for the day you wanted to go. That way you could maximize the use of the pool and sign up for times that weren’t full even if you had already used your week’s reservations. It worked really well, but we haven’t heard if we are still going to be using the time slot reservation system this summer.

Same thing and they never filled immediately. We could always get a slot the day of. There were people who wouldn’t show up but the board would email them directly to remind them to not do that and then it counted against their allotted amount.

I’m on the board and we have not yet discussed how this summer will operate.

It's going to depend on the rules set forth by VDH. If we are on a 10 foot distancing requirement for family groups, I don't see anyway around reservations. That's why we should be lobbying now to restore sense to outdoor pool requirements.

I don’t see why this has to be the case again. With people being vaccinated and cases so low this summer, why can’t we just live again?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

-1

Haha tell FCPS that with outdoor recess. But I except people to want these same rules this summer too.

Pool were already ignoring these rules last summer. I doubt they even do much pretending this summer

Not at our pool. Everyone wore mask upon entering and exiting. But we didn’t need it walking from pool to table and back.

It seemed to vary. I am on the board for a smaller swim/tennis club. We opened at the end of May for lap swim and progressed with well thought out, organized plans under each VA phase. At the end of the summer in Phase 3 we still had reserved tables and pool sections. Each family reserved a numbered pool section and corresponding numbered table. One family at a time could use the baby pool. Counting the baby pool I think we had 11 reservable sections. VA said clubs could have up to 75% of capacity if families could keep 10' distance. We knew we couldn't do that and didn't expand beyond the number of section reservations each 1.5 hour which at most would have put us at about 25% of capacity if a family of 4 reserved each spot.

We didn't experience any big issues with people not following rules, but it's a small pool where a lot of people know each other and board members are often around.

Sounds similar to our pool. The issue we had involved reservations. You had to be on it the moment it went live and families worked together to get the prime real estate etc. (good for them, bad for others). Then we had families reserve slots and not show up when others would have taken them. Thankfully this year, they plan to just open it up with some reserve times for lap/elderly swimmers when the kids are not present.

We had the reservation system last year too. We could make reservations a week in advance and there was a limit on how many reservations per week you could make in advance. You could make more reservations than your week’s allotment by getting same day “drop in” slots, which were slots you signed up for the day you wanted to go. That way you could maximize the use of the pool and sign up for times that weren’t full even if you had already used your week’s reservations. It worked really well, but we haven’t heard if we are still going to be using the time slot reservation system this summer.

Same thing and they never filled immediately. We could always get a slot the day of. There were people who wouldn’t show up but the board would email them directly to remind them to not do that and then it counted against their allotted amount.

I’m on the board and we have not yet discussed how this summer will operate.

It's going to depend on the rules set forth by VDH. If we are on a 10 foot distancing requirement for family groups, I don't see anyway around reservations. That's why we should be lobbying now to restore sense to outdoor pool requirements.

I don’t see why this has to be the case again. With people being vaccinated and cases so low this summer, why can’t we just live again?

fundamentally I agree with you that it should just be 'open.' I think this is a reasonable expectation for outdoor spaces. I suspect that it will not be a reasonable expectation for indoor spaces. Last summer, VDH insisted on treating indoor and outdoor pools as the same. I strongly suspect (and have some information) this was due to the lobbying of indoor commercial pools (e.g. swim schools.) If we want out outdoor pools to be fully open, we need to start lobbying VDH. You cannot just ignore health department guidelines.

[Anonymous]

I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

I worked high school swim meetings and there was definitely not 10’. The coaches were supposed to keep the kids distanced a little but that’s so hard. The relay teAms were right next to each other right next to the timers. Parents chatted near each other and masked. It was almost business as usual with masks. The kids did pretty good following all of the restrictions but they don’t need to carry those to outdoor summer pools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

Yes, they do. You may have given up on safety, but that's why many of us are concerned because of families like you.

Yes, please show us the data on outdoor transmission of covid between kids at outdoor pools.

Right, let’s just pretend no swim kid has had Covid for a hyper competitive parent who has to put their wishes over others health.

Where’s the data?

Ask our lousy government officials. And, our swim teams who have kept positives hidden to keep the teams going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

I think you will see significant changes between now and summer - just today outside restrictions were lessoned. As vaccinations go up the numbers will decline - restrictions will ease and my guess is that by summer they will ease immensely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

I think you will see significant changes between now and summer - just today outside restrictions were lessoned. As vaccinations go up the numbers will decline - restrictions will ease and my guess is that by summer they will ease immensely.

Except that the numbers are going up right now, not down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids outside don’t need to stay six feet apart from each other. How absurd.

Yes, they do. You may have given up on safety, but that's why many of us are concerned because of families like you.

Yes, please show us the data on outdoor transmission of covid between kids at outdoor pools.

Right, let’s just pretend no swim kid has had Covid for a hyper competitive parent who has to put their wishes over others health.

Where’s the data?

Ask our lousy government officials. And, our swim teams who have kept positives hidden to keep the teams going.

But were the positives from the team transmitting to each other? Or someone getting it from hanging out in someone else’s home the week before? That’s the difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say lobby the governor and soon about allowing pools to be open (no more reservations). People are getting vaccinated there is no need to be so stringent outdoors. They aren't even 10 feet indoors with the pools.

Interesting. I was up on the regs last summer. I’ll have to look up the changes again.

Right now even FCPs has students at 10’ for outdoor recess while masked.

I think you will see significant changes between now and summer - just today outside restrictions were lessoned. As vaccinations go up the numbers will decline - restrictions will ease and my guess is that by summer they will ease immensely.

Except that the numbers are going up right now, not down.

Are you just trolling, numbers have been dropping sharply for the past 3 weeks or so.