Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.


Keep telling yourself that. But keep your unscientific opinion out of schools.


Friend, I don’t know what to tell you. But I can say humanity has come a long way since some guys wearing dresses wrote up what a flaming bush told them.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.

It is your opinion that gender is a guess. It is not a fact. Your opinion should not be taught as fact in schools.


Tell me what gender is. Should be pretty easy. Go.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.


Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.


Gds literally tells lower school students to “explore your gender” during these books.

In middle school they tell students to “explore their sexual orientation.”
By then most kids are rolling their eyes but there are a fair amount of kids who don’t get attention at home and they latch on to anything they are told at school.

And the adhd and asd students are prone to taking all of this literally. Oh, I had a bad day, maybe I’m the wrong gender like the book and teacher taught me!


Literally not one single word of this is true. Perhaps you are projecting? I know Sunday schools start indoctrinating girls into their “helpmeet/servant/only good for breeding” roles very young. It must be very hard for you to acknowledge the breadth of difference and experience in this world. Only natural that you’d want to revert back to what is simple and comfortable to you.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.

It is your opinion that gender is a guess. It is not a fact. Your opinion should not be taught as fact in schools.


Tell me what gender is. Should be pretty easy. Go.


It means your biological sex, xx or xy.
It’s a politer way of saying it than the S word.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.


Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.


The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.


Gds literally tells lower school students to “explore your gender” during these books.

In middle school they tell students to “explore their sexual orientation.”
By then most kids are rolling their eyes but there are a fair amount of kids who don’t get attention at home and they latch on to anything they are told at school.

And the adhd and asd students are prone to taking all of this literally. Oh, I had a bad day, maybe I’m the wrong gender like the book and teacher taught me!


Literally not one single word of this is true. Perhaps you are projecting? I know Sunday schools start indoctrinating girls into their “helpmeet/servant/only good for breeding” roles very young. It must be very hard for you to acknowledge the breadth of difference and experience in this world. Only natural that you’d want to revert back to what is simple and comfortable to you.

Grow up PP. Stop pretending to know anything about my kids school. You are full of lies and no actual information.

It’s absolutely true at GDS.

Georgetown Day School. Check it out yourself. I’m not scanning the syllabus or my kids handouts for you or the weekly emails from lower school days.

My kids aren’t confused by their batty mission and curriculum but we know many who are. Keep it out of schools and at home.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.


Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.


The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.


are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.

It is your opinion that gender is a guess. It is not a fact. Your opinion should not be taught as fact in schools.


Tell me what gender is. Should be pretty easy. Go.


It means your biological sex, xx or xy.
It’s a politer way of saying it than the S word.


Simple, but incomplete.

Ask an anthropologist. That’s someone who has made it their life’s work to study different peoples and cultures.

Their view of gender is much more nuanced and has benefited from a broader view of different peoples and cultures to have existed over time. Most educated people have adopted this more expansive and complete view of what gender is - a collection of gender norms often associated with biological sex but not always.

I have my own gripes with the trans movement for reinforcing negative gender stereotypes, but it’s high time America acknowledged there is a difference.

Female is a gender. “Female brain” is bulls*t.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.


Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.


The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.


Europeans absolutely think America’s race-focus and manufactured gender issues in schools are misguided and ridiculous. Sub Saharan Africans think that too. So does any Black person in London where I’m originally from. They would never move here for this very issue.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.


Keep telling yourself that. But keep your unscientific opinion out of schools.


Friend, I don’t know what to tell you. But I can say humanity has come a long way since some guys wearing dresses wrote up what a flaming bush told them.


Gems like this are the #1 reason I can't quit DCUM.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.


Keep telling yourself that. But keep your unscientific opinion out of schools.


Friend, I don’t know what to tell you. But I can say humanity has come a long way since some guys wearing dresses wrote up what a flaming bush told them.


OP, when you ask where the backlash is coming from, see example A above.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.


Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.


The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.


are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?



You must be living in a cave. Study after study has shown that America clings to the juvenile comfort that is religion more than any other “free” nation, and that belief is used to ostracize, bully, drive to suicide, and outright kill gay and trans kids.

We are also toxic AF about what we expect from both boys and girls. Girly boys get bullied all the time. Boyish girls get told to smile and get shut out from jobs and opportunities.

As a nation, we’re a lot closer to the mores and culture of Iran than we are to Britain. (Iran, by the way, condones gender reassignment as a cure for homosexuality. People choose surgery over death). Maybe if gender was no longer a matter of life and death, people wouldn’t fight so hard to change their outward appearance.

Just a thought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The need to control is wholly rooted in fear and anxiety. The GOP/MAGA is afraid of their own shadow.


Control is what Maryland was doing when they took away the parental opt out.

Stop trying to control other people’s kids!
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