Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.
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Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.


You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.


DP. What exactly is a moral or religious question here? All the PP is saying is that it's normal for gay people to exist-that is a fact.


Whether marriage is between a man and a woman
Whether people can be born into the wrong body
Whether people can choose their sex


And on and on.

All of these are moral and religious questions not science, and don’t belong in the classsroom.

The Maryland curriculum was not about “gays exist.” If you read up about the case, you would know this.


None of these are moral or religious questions, especially the first one. If you feel that these are, then you have no business sending your children to public schools and are thereby proving OP's point; Republicans hate, or a least are very uncomfortable with LGTQ+ people.


Disagreement isn’t hate, and yes, questions about sex and gender are inevitably moral. You’re being disingenuous denying the obvious.


Actually, it is. Perhaps you need to broaden your mind and learn what morality actually is and not what your religion tells you is moral.


No it isn’t. Pretending these issues surrounding sex and gender aren’t moral issues is simply a lie. We all know there are sensitive topics best left to the parents to introduce according to their own value system.

We live in a multicultural society and you’re going to have to learn to tolerate other people’s beliefs. If you want to raise your child in a pride focused home, go for it. But devout Muslims and Hindus don’t have to agree to that without being labeled haters.

You want to know why the tide has turned? Because the tolerance over the past five years only seemed to be going one way. The cake baker, Lia Thomas and this school opt out case ate all the samples.


To me, the practice of religion is a moral issue should be kept private. I don’t want to hear about your Easter, your Yom Kippur, your Eid, your Diwali, your any of it. I don’t want to hear about your church, your beliefs, or prayers, or any of the fairy tales you believe in. Keep your hate in your home. When you go out into civil society, you behave like a human.


NP. This is unintentionally hilarious because religious practice itself is deeply human and widespread across cultures. Also, so typical for someone who subscribes to the secular progressive religion to characterize other religions as "hate."


Yes, when humans lived in caves, they needed fairy tales for social cohesion and to explain the unexplainable. Religion proved especially helpful for controlling behaviors and property rights as we moved into more established societies. And it still serves a handy role of keeping humans organized into tribes and fighting over trivial crap, instead of looking at the sources of their pain here on earth. We could have Heaven here if only religions weren’t profiting so handsomely from keeping people miserable.

And yes, if religions are promoting a culture that refuses to acknowledge the humanity of other people, that’s hate. They might call it justified, but it’s not. It has no place in this society.
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Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.


You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.


DP. What exactly is a moral or religious question here? All the PP is saying is that it's normal for gay people to exist-that is a fact.


Whether marriage is between a man and a woman
Whether people can be born into the wrong body
Whether people can choose their sex


And on and on.

All of these are moral and religious questions not science, and don’t belong in the classsroom.

The Maryland curriculum was not about “gays exist.” If you read up about the case, you would know this.


None of these are moral or religious questions, especially the first one. If you feel that these are, then you have no business sending your children to public schools and are thereby proving OP's point; Republicans hate, or a least are very uncomfortable with LGTQ+ people.


Disagreement isn’t hate, and yes, questions about sex and gender are inevitably moral. You’re being disingenuous denying the obvious.


Actually, it is. Perhaps you need to broaden your mind and learn what morality actually is and not what your religion tells you is moral.


Meanwhile, there's you setting Teslas on fire.


Yawn. Here's what your supposedly "moral" people are doing: https://minnesotareformer.com/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-voted-in-2024-minnesota-republican-presidential-primary-records-show/


Did you forget about the Shapiro arsonist, the Scalise shooting, the Nashville trans killer?


Did any of those people proclaim to be a "good Christians" and Boetler did?
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


But that wasn’t what was happening in the case decided today. Maryland teachers were specifically told to disagree with a child who said marriage is between a man and a woman, and to respond to a cult who says “a boy can’t become a girl” that the comment is “hurtful.” They are told to say that when a baby is born, “people make a guess about our gender.” Those are specific unscientific, moral claims at odds with parental beliefs and no different constitutionally than a teacher saying a child should accept Jesus.


No, what you are hearing is that teachers were not reinforcing Stone Age fairy tale nonsense. In America, marriage is NOT exclusively between man and a woman. In America, we recognize that trans people exist, because God made them. We recognize that gender is a made up concept that varies over place and time.

Your “facts” are actually opinions, and you’re not entitled to have them validated at every step of your life journey in America. Pray on it.


Why do you think you have the right to tell Muslims their religious beliefs are “Stone Age fairy nonsense” as a condition for their attending public school?
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Anonymous wrote:They don’t hate them. They don’t care. Stop reading the NYT and WashPo.


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Keep your sex life and identity confusion at home. And get mental health care stat.
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Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.


You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.


DP. What exactly is a moral or religious question here? All the PP is saying is that it's normal for gay people to exist-that is a fact.


Whether marriage is between a man and a woman
Whether people can be born into the wrong body
Whether people can choose their sex


And on and on.

All of these are moral and religious questions not science, and don’t belong in the classsroom.

The Maryland curriculum was not about “gays exist.” If you read up about the case, you would know this.


None of these are moral or religious questions, especially the first one. If you feel that these are, then you have no business sending your children to public schools and are thereby proving OP's point; Republicans hate, or a least are very uncomfortable with LGTQ+ people.


Disagreement isn’t hate, and yes, questions about sex and gender are inevitably moral. You’re being disingenuous denying the obvious.


Actually, it is. Perhaps you need to broaden your mind and learn what morality actually is and not what your religion tells you is moral.


No it isn’t. Pretending these issues surrounding sex and gender aren’t moral issues is simply a lie. We all know there are sensitive topics best left to the parents to introduce according to their own value system.

We live in a multicultural society and you’re going to have to learn to tolerate other people’s beliefs. If you want to raise your child in a pride focused home, go for it. But devout Muslims and Hindus don’t have to agree to that without being labeled haters.

You want to know why the tide has turned? Because the tolerance over the past five years only seemed to be going one way. The cake baker, Lia Thomas and this school opt out case ate all the samples.


Please explain how gay marriage is a moral issue. If you honestly believe that, then once again, you've proved OP's point that Conservatives hate LGTBQ+ people.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.
OP's question has been answered with many perspectives. She and you clearly simply don't like the answer. Therefore you change the subject.


This thread was prompted by a scotus ruling today about Maryland school curriculum. A discussion about test scores and academic performance is absolutely relevant.


+1 only so many hours of teaching a day so religious and political and rare, unique health matters taught at a young age is not appropriate, unless indoctrinating. There’s known context yet.

“I feel like a girl.”
“Oh cool, now you can have a baby!”
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.


Keep telling yourself that. But keep your unscientific opinion out of schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.

It is your opinion that gender is a guess. It is not a fact. Your opinion should not be taught as fact in schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.


Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?


The teachers were indoctrinating but they aren’t gay. Just liberal.


There goes the projection again. It’s all the religious conservatives know. What normal human would actually believe the nonsense spewed by most religions unless they were indoctrinated hard and young? Indoctrination is all they have when they’re certainly not winning on intelligence and reason.


A teacher telling a child that a person’s sex is a guess is quasi religious nonsense that has no place in the classroom.


Gender is a guess. And unless you have a DNA panel, sex is too. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your world view, your God was a lot more complex a creator than you give him credit for.


Yes! We are now in the Matrix!

Are you real??

Am I real??

Does math matter?

Do parents matter??

Is any of this real??

Dooo di doo di doo di doo di.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.


Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.
Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.


How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.


OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.


Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.


Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”


And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.


Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.


No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.


Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.
I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.


OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.


Sorry what does an adult having adult gay fitness have anything to do with reading Jazz Jennings boy becomes a girl book to 7 yo during school time at school?

Nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.


Gds literally tells lower school students to “explore your gender” during these books.

In middle school they tell students to “explore their sexual orientation.”
By then most kids are rolling their eyes but there are a fair amount of kids who don’t get attention at home and they latch on to anything they are told at school.

And the adhd and asd students are prone to taking all of this literally. Oh, I had a bad day, maybe I’m the wrong gender like the book and teacher taught me!
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