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“who are principal violins at their youth orchestras”
“go on to excel in music” Are you people actually trying to miss the point or are you really just this stupid? |
Parents who immigrate are making some sacrifices so that their kids can have a better life. I can only imagine how hard it was for my parents when they immigrated here with four little kids and not knowing the language and culture. I made a "sacrifice" when I moved from somewhere I had lived for 40 years so that my kids could have a better education; my spouse's parents moved to a different city hundreds of miles away so that my spouse could have better educational opportunities. When you move like that you sacrifice all the social/friend/family connections. I've not been able to build a similar social connection in this new city I moved to, but I made that sacrifice for my kid's education. No, I'm not a tiger parent, but parents who make these moves for their kid's future are absolutely making those sacrifices. |
How old are you? You sound immature so Im guessing you’re not a parent. When you are young you don’t know the value of things like scales. That comes later when you’re more mature. When you’re little you want fun and instant gratification. Scales, chores, and broccoli suck. That’s why you have parents who tell you to put down the marshmallow and eat some broccoli. Or please do your 5 minutes of scales before you practice like the teacher suggested. Or no video games before homework, please. This is how we grow functional adults. You seem to think it’s either the child gets to have fun all the time or it’s dysfunctional. |
Eh. I’m an Asian (Indian) millennial and grew up with immigrant parents. It’s a stereotype for a reason. My parents were actually awesome and nothing like this, and they’re an outlier among my peers as far as I can tell. I was never forced to play an instrument, they weren’t particularly pushy about grades, they weren’t strict, let me drink at home, let boyfriends sleep over (when I was in college and after, didn’t come up before then) and basically acted like reasonably permissive white parents. And I turned out absolutely fine. They had a pretty big social circle (of other Indian immigrants) when I was growing up, and I’m lifelong friends with many of their kids. I was definitely the best adjusted among them all when we were growing up. And they all always wanted to come hang out at my house when we were growing up because their parents were way more strict, and all still love my parents for being normal. But the point is, they were extremely different from the other Asian parents I knew. So while obviously I know there are normal ones, I think a large percentage are like what is being described here. |
according to yourself |
I’m the PP. Yes, and? I’m pretty self aware. Definitely I have flaws, but I was never afraid of telling my parents stuff. The friends I refer to above were secretive, would doctor report cards, were afraid to admit to their parents they talked to boys, etc., as teenagers. That’s the opposite of being well adjusted in my view. |
actually, they seem to be well adjusted to their own circumstances. |
So cocky |
He was a child subjected to enormous pressure such that he could not stay healthy. It's disgusting to call this a "victim mentality." If you look at birthrates in Korea, you'll see that this grindset attitude is not life-affirming. If you haven't read about Korean cram schools, I suggest you take a little time to read about them as an example. Many years ago, I lived next to an Asian family, who screamed at their son for getting less than 100 on any math test and made the kid practice the piano nonstop. I wonder what happened to him because they never relented. Parents are free to push their kids as they see fit. My parents should have pushed me more, for instance. However, this level of pushing has real consequences and people should be careful not to go too far. |
Sure. He had terrible parents. But lots of people have terrible parents. He needs to quit whining and move on. |
Everybody who immigrated here is sacrificial according to this logic. |
If you immigrate with kids it is typically a sacrifice for your kids. You do it so they have a better future (as you see it). |
you are literally tone deaf so you play like crap and that's good enough for you. some are not so lucky. |
yes, it is. It's incredibly difficult for parents to leave what they know, their family and friends, to move to a country where you barely or don't speak the language, don't understand the process, etc.. with little kids. |
The parents I see in the night program, losing sleep to put themselves thru that night program, parents to try to improve their own prospects at the cost of family time are the ones who truly can be described as making sacrifices. Moving abroad to a country full of opportunities when you don't make an effort for those opportunities but instead guilt and harass your children about it throughout their childhood is not sacrifice. It's called passing the buck where they dump all the responsibility on the kid. My kids attend the SHSAT competitive high schools in NYC. I can't tell you how many mothers I've met there who push and push their child and yet the mother doesn't work and are hard pressed to describe what they do all day when they only have one child who is doesn't need much supervision. I've actually met college consultants who say that the last thing a college reviewer wants to read is yet another essay by a Chinese applicant talking about their parents' sacrifices. |