Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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The cops confirmed they say BL in the home but didn’t talk to him.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't requote pages of opinions. Here's the only reason that BL pleading 5th is a moot point. I only posted 3 relevant facts in this thread.

1. The one hour bodycam video of police intervention
2. The video link to van location submitted to FBI and then posted to social media that led to her body within 24 hours
3. The transcript and update of a 2nd witness call to 911 stating BL hit, slapped and locked GP out of van

The officers are at fault. Whether the dispatcher screwed up, the officers ignored, or both...BL would have been arrested on DV charges and jailed.

Things may have turned out differently, as a result. Maybe not. Timing is important.

One more thing. I've not posted an opinion on anything, just facts. Now I will. She had 2 sets of parents, and friends who were aware of BLs controlling behavior. That's 4 parents, one friend who's given interviews. Not a single one flew Gabby home, or got on a plane to bring her home. She was failed by the LE, the system, and her family. The only victim is Gabby.

Wait, sorry if I missed something. Is it possible the officers who pulled them over and spoke to them in the video knew that an eyewitness had called and said he saw Gabby being slapped etc? I thought that was later.

August 12th caller (same day officers intervened):

“I’m right on the corner of Main St by Moonflower… I’d like to report a domestic dispute,” the caller says in the 49 second audio recording on August 12

“The gentleman was slapping the girl… they ran up and down the sidewalk, he proceeded to hit her and then they drove off.”

Don't be surprised when you see footage of this incident. 100 percent certain somebody's camera caught at least some it. I'm sure LE is on it.

So, prior documentation of intent to harm/assault against the victim plus evidence of a homicide with him in the location of her body ( van was 900 ft from her body) is that enough for an indictment ?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a bunch of helicopters and planes circling a rural part of the FL/AL border. They are searching for someone.

If you click on each individual plane or copter, you'll see their flight patterns.

https://www.radarbox.com/@31.16720,-84.96643,z9

they should give it a week and hope nature solves the problem for them

And if he kills someone else in the meantime?

What are the odds he’s going to get in another relationship in a week? Please.

He is a murderer.

He’s a “domestic” murderer. His ability to restrain violent behavior directed at people he’s not in a relationship with is part of how he made it this far.

My point was that most psychopaths kill for the 1st time in their late teens/ early 20's.

If they are caught after the 1st murder, it ends there.

Unfortunately, many are not caught. Some because of their guile and blending in are not even suspected ( Yes, Ted Bundy was once a Senate staffer, enrolled in Law School and engaged to be married- and he was going out at night and killing co-eds )

Anyone remember the teen killer Johan van der Sloot ( Diplomats son in Aruba ) who killed Natalie Holloway and got away with it- 5 years later he beat another young woman to death

How about this Durst guy ( killed 2 wives ) or Scott Peterson- 10 years before he killed is 8 months PG wife and dumped her body in the Bay he was wanted for questioning in the dissapearence of a HS girl he was dating ( he refused to come in for questioning and no one made him )

So, let GET Brian and lock him up for the rest of his life. Then, let's prosecute his parents

Ted Bundy didn’t kill someone he was in a relationship with as his first act (or at any point, actually). It’s a different predilection.

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Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

+1000!

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear the police scanner, here it is:

https://m.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/30021

Sorry I posted this but they won't be back at the swamp until tmrw AM

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So, prior documentation of intent to harm/assault against the victim plus evidence of a homicide with him in the location of her body ( van was 900 ft from her body) is that enough for an indictment ?

We don’t technically know what they have and haven’t released but I would be amazed at this point if they don’t have the evidence for an indictment. There’s most likely physical evidence at the crime scene that can be connected to him.

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Anonymous wrote:The dirty truth: there is no crime if the police can't prove it happened. Without a body, physical evidence, or data from the phones, the police do not have anything to work with.

And the guy is under no obligation to tell the police anything or help them in any way. In fact, he can leave the country right now for 6 months and go travel. He may be a suspect, but that means nothing until he is indicted by a grand jury.

You seem to know basic steps of the legal process. Any good reference to read up on it fast?

He isn’t even a suspect last I heard - just a person of interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't requote pages of opinions. Here's the only reason that BL pleading 5th is a moot point. I only posted 3 relevant facts in this thread.

1. The one hour bodycam video of police intervention
2. The video link to van location submitted to FBI and then posted to social media that led to her body within 24 hours
3. The transcript and update of a 2nd witness call to 911 stating BL hit, slapped and locked GP out of van

The officers are at fault. Whether the dispatcher screwed up, the officers ignored, or both...BL would have been arrested on DV charges and jailed.

Things may have turned out differently, as a result. Maybe not. Timing is important.

One more thing. I've not posted an opinion on anything, just facts. Now I will. She had 2 sets of parents, and friends who were aware of BLs controlling behavior. That's 4 parents, one friend who's given interviews. Not a single one flew Gabby home, or got on a plane to bring her home. She was failed by the LE, the system, and her family. The only victim is Gabby.

He would have been booked and maybe spent a night in jail. That maybe would have changed the outcome based on emergency protective order, but those are only worth the paper they’re written on especially when two people are living in a van away from most of their associates and can generally get back together without much oversight from any other party. These situations are really complex. I do wish it was different but generally even being booked on DV charges (esp first time misdemeanor) rarely alters the trajectory of these relationships.

Again I do really wish it was different. But I think there’s not as much enforcement as people think on these kind of charges. Even if it did make it to court one way or another. They need cooperation to some extent from the victim, but the victim is in a position where that’s hard or unsafe or impossible to do at the time. And sometimes it is even more dangerous in a sense to leave someone with those behaviors feeling like they have nothing left, since they’re not going to get a life sentence. Even as the family there is only so much you can do. You yourself are also in danger, being lied to and misled. Trust me, I have sadly been through this. I have a sibling who survived an attempted DV murder. My sibling did eventually escape, but it was not a linear process at all and protective orders were violated (even when a judge refused to remove the protective order as requested). We had a woman in the DC area who was killed this past year when her attacker was released from jail pending charges. And that was in a rare case where a judge actually approved holding someone for a period of time, but then allowed their release because the trial was delayed. In VA with charges like BL would have faced based on that body cam, the court process can be dropped by settling “restitution” with the victim and cases are often settled/dropped this way.

Good Point, PP. Don't want to rub salt in the wounds of the family, but I 2nd your points on why did the parents allow her to live with this guy and why did she choose to stay with him. Self - esteem issues.

This case has the attention of all of America right now so - in addition to John Walsh- lets have a public information blitz of intimate partner abuse- should be mandatory in ALL High schools , but with everyone watching this case let's call out the fallacy of IG papering over the serious cracks in the foundations of these 2 young people's lives

Young people need to have a purpose, an education, meaningful employment, a varied group of friends and some solid independence before ever trying to commit to another person. Healthy development. Take your time.

Never stay with someone who belittles you

And parents should have pulled the plug in this guy in their daughter's life loong ago

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Anonymous wrote:I will probably be trashed for this, but I wouldn’t vote to convict his parents for covering up for him. They had no role in her death.

If it were your son, what would you do. Honestly ask yourself that.

Make him be a man and own whatever he did. BL owes her family closure and to know what happened to their daughter. I’d walk with him to the police station to turn himself in. I’d also hire the best attorney I could to make sure he didn’t get the death penalty. Helping your child get away with murder is not what a parent should do.

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Does anyone have any solid proof that the police have stated that the guy in the deer cam footage is definitely NOT Brian Laundrie??
I haven’t been able to find anything online that says this.

The cops have to be very careful how they handle this case.
Because while not probable, it IS possible that Brian abandoned Gabby and after doing so, she could have possibly been murdered by someone else.
Maybe the same person who killed the other couple??

While I feel that Brian likely killed Gabby, mostly due to his odd behavior after 9/01, I think law enforcement would need actual proof vs. gut feelings.
Hopefully Gabby’s manner of death will be released soon.

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Anonymous wrote:The dirty truth: there is no crime if the police can't prove it happened. Without a body, physical evidence, or data from the phones, the police do not have anything to work with.

And the guy is under no obligation to tell the police anything or help them in any way. In fact, he can leave the country right now for 6 months and go travel. He may be a suspect, but that means nothing until he is indicted by a grand jury.

You seem to know basic steps of the legal process. Any good reference to read up on it fast?

LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:The dirty truth: there is no crime if the police can't prove it happened. Without a body, physical evidence, or data from the phones, the police do not have anything to work with.

And the guy is under no obligation to tell the police anything or help them in any way. In fact, he can leave the country right now for 6 months and go travel. He may be a suspect, but that means nothing until he is indicted by a grand jury.

You seem to know basic steps of the legal process. Any good reference to read up on it fast?

LOL.

bad legal takes on twitter maybe?
@BadLegalTakes

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Anonymous wrote:There's a rumor I saw floating around that the pumpkin pic was supposed to be the last pic because they were expecting their own "little pumpkin" ... anyone else heard that rumor and know if there's any validity?

Oh my. That would be sad. I guess it would show up in the autopsy.

Sounds like a dumb rumor made up by weirdos on the internet. We'll know soon enough but highly doubt it.

We still haven't found out why he hit her (for the police incident) or why he killed her. A pregnancy knowing they both were jobless and living in a van would do it.

Also could explain how sad the FBI lead looked.

The bolded is Exhibit A for why we need to have the SuperBowl pre-empted for mandatory intimate partner violence education.

To answer your question, PP: He hit her because he is emotionally disturbed and unable to control himself and she was in his vacinity and he thought, based on prior experience with her, that there would be no consequence . As in, if he hit his boss, he'd be fired and arrested. So, he's disturbed and he is a coward

He killed her because he is a PSYCOPATH- not because of anything she said or did.

Lastly, if a man can't afford child support- use a condom AND put yourself on the male BCP

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killers like him don't kill b/c they are crazy. They kill b/c they are just men not getting what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:I will probably be trashed for this, but I wouldn’t vote to convict his parents for covering up for him. They had no role in her death.

If it were your son, what would you do. Honestly ask yourself that.

Make him be a man and own whatever he did. BL owes her family closure and to know what happened to their daughter. I’d walk with him to the police station to turn himself in. I’d also hire the best attorney I could to make sure he didn’t get the death penalty. Helping your child get away with murder is not what a parent should do.

Here is the parents role in her death: they raised a psychopath and they brought Gabby into their home and had her live with them because they hoped Gabby would solve their Brian problem- the guy has No friends, no job and no prospects- except her. The Laundrie's used her

Then, when their son murdered her they callously obstructed the rightful search for her. Doesn't anyone notice the pattern of deception Brian is displaying the parents also display- learned at home.

They raised a psycopath