An interesting article about MCPS student population

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I can not believe Hispanics are the majority in Montgomery County already. The way they continue to cross the border and have tons of kids, it will be another 15 years before they are at 60%. Pretty much a third world country. Now I can see why the rich are leaving. No one wants their taxes going towards this mess.
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I believe Hispanic residents make up roughly 18% of MoCo, but currently elementary enrollment is 31% hispanic which is the highest percentage of any one group.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only person that still has faith in MCPS?


Yes. You haven't spoken to any MCPS officials lately, have you? It is truly frightening.


Please share.
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Montgomery County is a sanctuary city. It encourages illegals to come and live there. Everyone happy with this should be happy to pay to educate them and their children. Whether the children are here legally as US citizens (anchor babies) or illegally born elsewhere before they came here. If they are here I agree we have to educate them. The issue is continuing as a sanctuary city. Number 3 for El Salavadorians in the USA.
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Anonymous wrote:Who is this person who keeps claiming white flight is going to Howard County. I've lived in DC on and off for 15 years, in the city and in the suburbs, and have never even met anyone who lives in Howard County let alone someone willing to do that commute. A handful of colleagues live in Anne Arundel County for specific school options, but this idea that a large number of Montgomery County residents will flee that far is unlikely.


Search the real estate thread for Howard County - many posts from people inquiring about Howard County as they consider it vs Mo Co for where to move to.


I don't doubt there are people who want to live in Howard County. What I doubt is that people who have actively chosen an urban, walkable, diverse, neighborhood like Takoma Park or Silver Spring are going to up and move 45 minutes away because they fear the coming Brown menace.


As a side note, I am curious how the demographics of Takoma Park will change in the upcoming years. There isn't really room to build more affordable housing (I'm not counting the new hipster-attracting development in the downtown area), and housing prices keep going up. It does attract higher-income, diverse families.


People that chose North Bethesda, Rockville, Gaithersburg, Clarksburg, etc... may not have wanted a walkable urban lifestyle but that is what is being shoved down everyone's throats. I know when I moved here 14yrs ago, it was to move to the SUBURBS. The growth in the area is absurd. High rise condo/apartments up and down 355. Gaithersburg used to be farmland and they are doing nothing but build build. And it isn't single family homes on 1/4 acre lots. It is mega mansions on 1/8 acre lot or rows of town homes or blocks of condos. An area that a normal suburb would have maybe 40 homes now has at least 100 homes. And the county continues to say apartment dwellers do not have school aged kids. So condos and apartments yield ZERO child growth when they attempt to figure out how many kids will be at a school in say 5 years. This is because the developers do not want to pay for schools so they continue the "non child dwelling" building and they line the pockets of those doing the surveys. It is such as scam. It is so overcrowded. 10 years and our elementary school went from 2 open classrooms to 8 portables outside. People want to move to areas that have homes in normal spaces of 1/4 acre or more. Howard County has that.


It is not only a scam, it may be illegal. Write to the Council and to Hogan. They are building without any regard for infrastructure (schools, roads, police, water, etc).
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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable


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There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.


Welcome to the third world.


Or PG County


Well to be honest PG County economic growth and standards of living has increased dramatically as "Blacks" moved into the county in the late 80's/early 90's def not DECREASED. Way more options in amenities & other things that did not exist before the influx, so your a little off on that assessment
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Anonymous wrote:SES is strongly correlated to race and that's why some people make the jump to racisim

it's not true. All any family wants is the best education for their child and the higher SES you go the better the educational experience. Thats just a fact


We left MCPS for private and it appears many of the most affluent families are African American. They want positive role models for their kids. It's the Jack & Jill club!


We have one in private and the entire school is diverse but positive. Many families are actually of African decent and they don't want their kids assimilated with the AA culture. They are straight up work hard, play hard. Rich as heck.



This is always makes me laugh as an African American my culture is what they are immigrating too..the culture they didn't want to assimilate too was their OWN CULTURE..hence the reason they immigrated away from it, LMAO. If their "culture" was sooooo hard working they wouldn't have to immigrate in the first place, and why hasn't this "hard work" culture they scream about translated into a functional culture in their own country? Because their culture is dysfunctional so decided to immigrate to a culture that is FUNCTIONAL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable


+1

There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.


Welcome to the third world.


Or PG County


Well to be honest PG County economic growth and standards of living has increased dramatically as "Blacks" moved into the county in the late 80's/early 90's def not DECREASED. Way more options in amenities & other things that did not exist before the influx, so your a little off on that assessment


Legal AA population and illegal poor Hispanic population are too very different things. Unfortunately PG has their own influx of immigrants hat is burdening their social service system that was once so positive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SES is strongly correlated to race and that's why some people make the jump to racisim

it's not true. All any family wants is the best education for their child and the higher SES you go the better the educational experience. Thats just a fact


We left MCPS for private and it appears many of the most affluent families are African American. They want positive role models for their kids. It's the Jack & Jill club!


We have one in private and the entire school is diverse but positive. Many families are actually of African decent and they don't want their kids assimilated with the AA culture. They are straight up work hard, play hard. Rich as heck.



This is always makes me laugh as an African American my culture is what they are immigrating too..the culture they didn't want to assimilate too was their OWN CULTURE..hence the reason they immigrated away from it, LMAO. If their "culture" was sooooo hard working they wouldn't have to immigrate in the first place, and why hasn't this "hard work" culture they scream about translated into a functional culture in their own country? Because their culture is dysfunctional so decided to immigrate to a culture that is FUNCTIONAL


You are so off-base. Most rich Africans going to private are here for more power and money. They didn't flee their countries to become immigrants here. They want nothing to do with the pity-party African Americans spew off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SES is strongly correlated to race and that's why some people make the jump to racisim

it's not true. All any family wants is the best education for their child and the higher SES you go the better the educational experience. Thats just a fact


We left MCPS for private and it appears many of the most affluent families are African American. They want positive role models for their kids. It's the Jack & Jill club!


We have one in private and the entire school is diverse but positive. Many families are actually of African decent and they don't want their kids assimilated with the AA culture. They are straight up work hard, play hard. Rich as heck.



This is always makes me laugh as an African American my culture is what they are immigrating too..the culture they didn't want to assimilate too was their OWN CULTURE..hence the reason they immigrated away from it, LMAO. If their "culture" was sooooo hard working they wouldn't have to immigrate in the first place, and why hasn't this "hard work" culture they scream about translated into a functional culture in their own country? Because their culture is dysfunctional so decided to immigrate to a culture that is FUNCTIONAL


You are so off-base. Most rich Africans going to private are here for more power and money. They didn't flee their countries to become immigrants here. They want nothing to do with the pity-party African Americans spew off.


No it is a pity party hence the desire/begging to get access to another country/culture and to rum from their own. Black Americans aren't running or begging another country to take care of ur, or provided us with a better life, or giuve us access to wealth. Were creating that narrative in our own country not looking for free handouts in someone else's. Nor are we immigrating away from our problems. Going to another culture in hopes to get things instead of creating it in your own is a "pity party" mentality. Wanna impress me? Do what Blk Americans did and pull yourself up and create a standard of living in your native country not beg together access to someone elses
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable


+1

There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.


Welcome to the third world.


Or PG County


Well to be honest PG County economic growth and standards of living has increased dramatically as "Blacks" moved into the county in the late 80's/early 90's def not DECREASED. Way more options in amenities & other things that did not exist before the influx, so your a little off on that assessment


Legal AA population and illegal poor Hispanic population are too very different things. Unfortunately PG has their own influx of immigrants hat is burdening their social service system that was once so positive.


Very true my cousin is a teacher at Parkdale and......
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SES is strongly correlated to race and that's why some people make the jump to racisim

it's not true. All any family wants is the best education for their child and the higher SES you go the better the educational experience. Thats just a fact


We left MCPS for private and it appears many of the most affluent families are African American. They want positive role models for their kids. It's the Jack & Jill club!


We have one in private and the entire school is diverse but positive. Many families are actually of African decent and they don't want their kids assimilated with the AA culture. They are straight up work hard, play hard. Rich as heck.



This is always makes me laugh as an African American my culture is what they are immigrating too..the culture they didn't want to assimilate too was their OWN CULTURE..hence the reason they immigrated away from it, LMAO. If their "culture" was sooooo hard working they wouldn't have to immigrate in the first place, and why hasn't this "hard work" culture they scream about translated into a functional culture in their own country? Because their culture is dysfunctional so decided to immigrate to a culture that is FUNCTIONAL


You are so off-base. Most rich Africans going to private are here for more power and money. They didn't flee their countries to become immigrants here. They want nothing to do with the pity-party African Americans spew off.


No it is a pity party hence the desire/begging to get access to another country/culture and to rum from their own. Black Americans aren't running or begging another country to take care of ur, or provided us with a better life, or giuve us access to wealth. Were creating that narrative in our own country not looking for free handouts in someone else's. Nor are we immigrating away from our problems. Going to another culture in hopes to get things instead of creating it in your own is a "pity party" mentality. Wanna impress me? Do what Blk Americans did and pull yourself up and create a standard of living in your native country not beg together access to someone elses


Want to impress me? Do a little bit of research, use correct vocabulary, spelling, and grammar please. This post is a hot mess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SES is strongly correlated to race and that's why some people make the jump to racisim

it's not true. All any family wants is the best education for their child and the higher SES you go the better the educational experience. Thats just a fact


We left MCPS for private and it appears many of the most affluent families are African American. They want positive role models for their kids. It's the Jack & Jill club!


We have one in private and the entire school is diverse but positive. Many families are actually of African decent and they don't want their kids assimilated with the AA culture. They are straight up work hard, play hard. Rich as heck.



This is always makes me laugh as an African American my culture is what they are immigrating too..the culture they didn't want to assimilate too was their OWN CULTURE..hence the reason they immigrated away from it, LMAO. If their "culture" was sooooo hard working they wouldn't have to immigrate in the first place, and why hasn't this "hard work" culture they scream about translated into a functional culture in their own country? Because their culture is dysfunctional so decided to immigrate to a culture that is FUNCTIONAL


You are so off-base. Most rich Africans going to private are here for more power and money. They didn't flee their countries to become immigrants here. They want nothing to do with the pity-party African Americans spew off.


No it is a pity party hence the desire/begging to get access to another country/culture and to rum from their own. Black Americans aren't running or begging another country to take care of ur, or provided us with a better life, or giuve us access to wealth. Were creating that narrative in our own country not looking for free handouts in someone else's. Nor are we immigrating away from our problems. Going to another culture in hopes to get things instead of creating it in your own is a "pity party" mentality. Wanna impress me? Do what Blk Americans did and pull yourself up and create a standard of living in your native country not beg together access to someone elses


Want to impress me? Do a little bit of research, use correct vocabulary, spelling, and grammar please. This post is a hot mess.


typing from a phone, but as usual when facts cant be disputed attack the grammar lol. My points which were all accurate still stand
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

Yes the question is where are the young whites going in the area

Personally I think its a combo of

less marriage/kids overall, going to private, white flight to Howard

The hispanic population has nearly doubled in less than 15 years.

Something has to give here. The tax base is shrinking and costs are increasing its not sustainable


+1

There is no way this county can support the kind of development/growth that has been occurring. Something will have to give. Police forces, schools all need funding and when that goes down, the standard of living goes down.


Welcome to the third world.


Or PG County


Well to be honest PG County economic growth and standards of living has increased dramatically as "Blacks" moved into the county in the late 80's/early 90's def not DECREASED. Way more options in amenities & other things that did not exist before the influx, so your a little off on that assessment


The number of pay day loan and liquor stores to chose from is truly mind blowing.
Anonymous
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Is it a numerical drop or a proportional drop?


According to the chart in the OP link, it is a numerical drop. According to the chart, the number of White, Non-Hispanic students enrolled dropped from 68,849 in 2000 to 46,604 in 2016.


Interesting! I'll bet some of it is white families staying in DC since the big drop comes right around the time DC implemented free preK and expanded the charter effort. Some of it is probably fewer kids identifying as only white, and some of it is just demographic shifts nationwide. Interestingly, the number of Black kids isn't rising quickly, nor the number of Asian kids. The only group with real growth is Hispanics, which is almost certainly related to turmoil in Central and South America over the past decade.


+1 - There are many more families staying in DC then there were in 2000.
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