Will daughters be drafted?
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Anonymous
And when it comes down to I don't want my kids to be drafted because I don't want gem to die, fair sentiment. But not relevant to this discussion which revolves around gender equality. |
Anonymous
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NP here.
Putting aside all of the discussion about what women can and can't do, there is a bigger issue. If women are drafted, will they be required to either use birth control or practice abstinence? Because there is no way that any politician or military leader is going to want to deal with the possibility of a pregnant woman being killed in a military operation -- even if she is early in the pregnancy. So either the military is going to force birth control or they're going to test for pregnancy periodically. And of course, it will be a given that pregnancy is a valid excuse for not being drafted or being discharged. This isn't an issue for women who voluntarily enlist because the idea is that it is their choice, they go into it knowing the risks and issues. I think that is the touchiest issue. The other problem is that the military has a lot of problems with rape and sexual assault. If they are going to force women to serve, they need to do a better job at dealing with that issue. |
Anonymous
The young men who are drafted are not battle trained either. Neither are the women. They would both be trained. My example was to say ironic how women can do everything, until they can't when it is something where your lives are on the line. Women in their 20s are in the corporate world currently and not having babies, which is what some sexist poster falling back on old biological tropes said. If they can be in a corporate office they can be trained for war. |
Anonymous
I love all the examples until this is resolved until that is resolved. Military rape and assault is currently being addressed. I suggest pregnant women sit out the draft until their baby is born. Of course I foresee a baby boom as women rush to have babies to avoid the war, much like young men who rushed to college to avoid the draft. |
Anonymous
+1. That's it. |
Anonymous
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All the arguments against women being drafted has been based on biological tropes.
It is highly ironic as when all this women being in combat discussion was going on anyone that suggested women were biologically different and could impeded a war effort was accused of being a sexist. Now that this had come to fruition ironically the women screaming for equality, are all back pedaling, and relying on old sexist statements such as rape, biologically weaker, able to have babies as excuses why women should not be drafted. This is a modern army, there will be plenty of work for drafted women to do whether pregnant or not. |
Anonymous
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No good reason has been mentioned so far for women not registering.
Except maybe only 5-10% are physically fit enough to do the job's duties. I mean, what if they broke a nail or something. |
Anonymous
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If the Israeli women don't get a pass, why should American women. Sure most of them Won't be special
Ops or commandos or marines, but they can still help in the war effort and hold a damn gun when needed. Hey, Sherlock We aren't in Israel. There is a big difference between Israel needing all bodies to help survive seeing how they are surrounded by enemies. We aren't in the same position. |
Anonymous
As previously discussed, highly unlikely draft will be reinstated at all. But in the case it does, both men and women should be drafted. It's a matter of equality and principle. I think if other countries such as Israel have pulled it off it is possible here. So calling me sarcastic names is not really helping your case. |
Anonymous
+1 Thank you. Some of the smartest people I know are in the military. |
Anonymous
There is a lot of male on male rape and harassment in the military, but it gets swept under the rug. Not sure why. |
Anonymous
| I think the military should be the best fighting force it should be, and introduce women in measured, researched ways that support that and do not threaten effectiveness or cohesion. However, if a directive from above has determined that social engineering is the most important priority then yes, all women should sign up for selective service and go into combat if qualified. Forced birth control sounds a lot like 'controlling women's bodies" to me---incredibly invasive. That being said, you are government property when you are the military. You are subject to a separate legal code, you have to get constantly inoculated whether you like it or not, etc. so I imagine there is some room for intrusiveness in terms of pregnancies. Pregnancy is a huge problem on Navy ships; can only imagine how the hanky panky that leads to these pregnancies erodes relationships and stability from the families waiting back home. If women come in en masse as in a draft war footing, perhaps single sex units would be best. |
Anonymous
But but but we just had a study meant to show women can fight in the same combat units as men and be effective. We spent millions of dollars on it! We just dictated women can be in all combat roles! Same sex units??? Love yhe flip flopping. Yay women can be all combat roles. What, selective service? But we are the weaker sex! |
Anonymous
No it's not. I'm tired of this rhetoric. The reasons we have a privileged life here is because of a strong Constitution that protects civil rights, and generally good (albeit not perfect) governance. |
Anonymous
Okay. Whatever you say. If war ever comes you can fend for yourself because you don't need the military. |