Gen Z not voting and handing a win to criminal Trump

[Anonymous]

As a moderate democrat I yearn to form a coalition with independents and moderate conservatives. I really don’t care about the same things progressives care about.
I think Biden is the best chance of that.
So if Gen Z stays home, all the better. Their concerns are a distraction.
The 18-28 year olds have never been a traditionally strong voting block. NBD.

[Anonymous]

I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

[Anonymous]

I don’t really share their values.
So I don’t want them engaged.
I hope they stay home, because they are a distraction.
I don’t want the democrats beholden to them.
Spend the time and energy on never Trump conservatives and moderates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lately there’s lots of talk about Gen Z not seeing the big picture about voting for the greater good (Democrats) due to their hang ups with a particular single voter issue, like the war in Gaza, for example.

Why can’t Gen Z see the big picture? Are you all just crazy not to see the wall we are about to hit if Trump gets in again? He’s a dictator and a criminal. How on earth can you all stay on the sidelines and say you aren’t going to vote in the upcoming election because of X, Y, or Z? How can you dare not vote and basically hand the presidential election to Trump, which is what he’s counting on…your apathy and confusion….because you actually think he’s a better candidate and forget everything else he stands for or has done to disrupt peace, including the insurrection?

Maybe, just maybe, the party should LISTEN to what it supporters want. There are issues that some of us really despise in our own parties. When do you have a real chance to get politicians to listen to the 10-20% issues that many party supporters don’t like?

This!!! Every election cycle the democrats claim its an existential election. "Support us for the greater good! Vote blue no matter who!" Then after they get elected they basically tell the progressive wing of the party to eff off. Not falling for it again, and no voting for Genocide Joe. Maybe next time you'll be willing to actually earn our votes, not just feel entitled to them while completely ignoring and disrespecting what we want policy wise.

Because progressives are an extreme wing of the party that would cause a huge national backlash and swing back to the GOP. The absurd focus on "oppressors or oppressed" makes it impossible for anyone outside of academia or social media to take them seriously. But most of all, progressive views these days are incompatible with the working class which further pushes that voting bloc to the right

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

Call it lecturing, I don’t care at this point. Go to TikTok and search these issues. The lack of understanding is astonishing. They think Biden has the authority to simply end any war by saying so.

I know that this age bracket doesn’t typically turn out to vote, but they did last time and helped Biden win. Democrats need the youth vote as the republicans need the boomers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lately there’s lots of talk about Gen Z not seeing the big picture about voting for the greater good (Democrats) due to their hang ups with a particular single voter issue, like the war in Gaza, for example.

Why can’t Gen Z see the big picture? Are you all just crazy not to see the wall we are about to hit if Trump gets in again? He’s a dictator and a criminal. How on earth can you all stay on the sidelines and say you aren’t going to vote in the upcoming election because of X, Y, or Z? How can you dare not vote and basically hand the presidential election to Trump, which is what he’s counting on…your apathy and confusion….because you actually think he’s a better candidate and forget everything else he stands for or has done to disrupt peace, including the insurrection?

Maybe, just maybe, the party should LISTEN to what it supporters want. There are issues that some of us really despise in our own parties. When do you have a real chance to get politicians to listen to the 10-20% issues that many party supporters don’t like?

This!!! Every election cycle the democrats claim its an existential election. "Support us for the greater good! Vote blue no matter who!" Then after they get elected they basically tell the progressive wing of the party to eff off. Not falling for it again, and no voting for Genocide Joe. Maybe next time you'll be willing to actually earn our votes, not just feel entitled to them while completely ignoring and disrespecting what we want policy wise.

Because the leaders in our major parties craft their messaging to use fear above all else to coerce people into continuing to vote for their substandard candidates. This is an easier path to maintaining their stranglehold on American politics than welcoming America's best and brightest to compete in legitimate primary and general elections. The American people are always asking for change and for the swamp to be drained while the last thing our party leaders and their wealthy donors want are the unknowns that come along with candidates chosen by the people in legitimate elections. Guess who gets their way?........ not the American people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

Call it lecturing, I don’t care at this point. Go to TikTok and search these issues. The lack of understanding is astonishing. They think Biden has the authority to simply end any war by saying so.

I know that this age bracket doesn’t typically turn out to vote, but they did last time and helped Biden win. Democrats need the youth vote as the republicans need the boomers.

Do you have Gen Z children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

If they want to remain stupid and get their news from TikTok then let them be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

Call it lecturing, I don’t care at this point. Go to TikTok and search these issues. The lack of understanding is astonishing. They think Biden has the authority to simply end any war by saying so.

I know that this age bracket doesn’t typically turn out to vote, but they did last time and helped Biden win. Democrats need the youth vote as the republicans need the boomers.

I mean, Democrats deprived these kids of an education for two years. This is what is typically called “natural consequences.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lately there’s lots of talk about Gen Z not seeing the big picture about voting for the greater good (Democrats) due to their hang ups with a particular single voter issue, like the war in Gaza, for example.

Why can’t Gen Z see the big picture? Are you all just crazy not to see the wall we are about to hit if Trump gets in again? He’s a dictator and a criminal. How on earth can you all stay on the sidelines and say you aren’t going to vote in the upcoming election because of X, Y, or Z? How can you dare not vote and basically hand the presidential election to Trump, which is what he’s counting on…your apathy and confusion….because you actually think he’s a better candidate and forget everything else he stands for or has done to disrupt peace, including the insurrection?

What the f? Gaza is a genocide. 25,000 civilians killed and 2.3 million homeless facing death by starvation. Gen Z has it right Biden and the old folks home are wrong. This is a values thing. The Democratic Party will not go along with a genocide for a Jewish state.

If you don’t want Trump all you have to do is cut Israel off and a one state solution. I guess you would rather destroy US democracy vs stop the slaughter in Gaza. This is happens what Israel is more important vs the US.

I agree with you about Gaza but how do you think not voting and allowing Trump to win leads to a better outcome? This is where I get lost….you are going to hurt Palestinians more in the long run if you allow Trump to be elected.

How do you suggest Gen Z communicate their disapproval on Gaza while still voting for Trump?

Sorry— still voting for Biden.

So they can continue what they are doing, claiming some kind of mandate, ignoring us all the while? Yeah right. No wonder you all ran the country into the ground. You keep voting for these fools and they keep screwing you. The only way to get their attention is to threaten their hold on power. You want our votes? You stop the nonsense and start listening.

No, you don’t get to just sit there and issue threats. Vote or don’t. No one has to pander to you entitled whiners. Get off your lazy behinds and work instead of expecting everything on a platter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

Call it lecturing, I don’t care at this point. Go to TikTok and search these issues. The lack of understanding is astonishing. They think Biden has the authority to simply end any war by saying so.

I know that this age bracket doesn’t typically turn out to vote, but they did last time and helped Biden win. Democrats need the youth vote as the republicans need the boomers.

I mean, Democrats deprived these kids of an education for two years. This is what is typically called “natural consequences.”

You mean when Trump was president the dems over ruled him and forced the schools to close? You must be very happy they legalize drugs.

[Anonymous]

You know who votes against their own interests? Lots of Boomers. Voting for the GOP as they age is the definition of dumb. I hope Gen Z shows up to vote. I think many of them are more engaged than previous generations.
-Gen-Xer here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we all need to head over to tiktok, and do our best to reach Gen Z on these issues.

They need to understand that one of these 2 men WILL win no matter how much we hate the two party system, so they need to vote for the one they hate the least.

They need to understand that Trump will be so much worse than Biden with the Israel/Palestine war. I am seeing comments like “How hard is it to call for a ceasefire?” Ugh. They don’t understand how complicated this situation is and the history. They don’t understand what Biden can/can’t do.

They need to understand that, although Biden’s attempts at border control haven’t panned out as well as we would like, he is trying and republicans are blocking him. We don’t want to go back to kids in cages, separated families, and government shutdowns over Trump’s “build a wall” hissy fit.

We are preaching to the choir on dcum. The only way to reach Gen Z is on tiktok, so let’s go!

And while you’re lecturing them about what “they need to understand” what do you expect to learn? How do you expect to change? How will you address their issues?

Because lecturing isn’t a notoriously successful way of making young people do what you want.

Call it lecturing, I don’t care at this point. Go to TikTok and search these issues. The lack of understanding is astonishing. They think Biden has the authority to simply end any war by saying so.

I know that this age bracket doesn’t typically turn out to vote, but they did last time and helped Biden win. Democrats need the youth vote as the republicans need the boomers.

I mean, Democrats deprived these kids of an education for two years. This is what is typically called “natural consequences.”

You mean when Trump was president the dems over ruled him and forced the schools to close? You must be very happy they legalize drugs.

Trump didn’t order the schools closed. That was a local decision. School closures were driven by unions which back blue politicians.

In the end this is a FAFO moment for Democrats and labor. They created this profoundly mal-educated voter group, they’ll have to deal with the consequences.

[Anonymous]

I think there is a real chance for a 3rd party candidate (not the ones already declared but a new voice).

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23786178-nbc-april-2023-poll?responsive=1&title=1\