Why can't police find the escaped prisoner in Philly?

[Anonymous]

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The guy is trying to survive and be free - pretty sure he's not psycho. He's been out for 13 days already. If he meant to harm for the sake of it I'm pretty sure that would have happened by now. A murderer and not a good man but not an idiot nor mentally insane. The story illustrates all sorts of cracks in American society. From keystone cops to dumbass everyday people. Honestly, like a TV movie. Can't make this shit up!

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He should NOT be able to highjack a car - this has nothing to do with ordinary citizens being reckless. This has to do with LEOs who provide for the safety of ordinary citizens doing their jobs. Admittedly it was smart citizens aren't helping the efforts but this is NOT the job responsibility they are charged with, it's police.

It’s ridiculous that people in the area couldn’t secure their weapons though. Good lord.

Immediate fine for any gun that is not secured. Charges if their unsecured gun is stolen and used in a crime.

I'd argue that a gun, particularly a hunting rifle, that's in a locked house/garage is secured.

Why are you making it about this homeowner and not the criminal that robbed them?!

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Anonymous wrote:The updated pics are interesting. Before I read about it or scrutinized, I actually thought from the prison video that he was black. Then I saw he is Brazilian. Clean shaven and with a hoodie, he could pass for white.

There is nothing about his crab walking video that looked Black. You likely assumed he was Black. Really.

Yeah, again I need PP to explain how she thought he was black. Even with his curly hair out, he’s not black or AA presenting whatsoever. I’m an AA fwiw.

Not PP. but he is very clearly BIPOC. Which means he is in great danger from the police just executing him, and getting away with it.

Maybe they will shoot him because he’s a 2 time murderer, prison escapee with a gun, not because he’s BLPOC.

Everyone makes mistakes, right? That doesn’t justify getting the death penalty from racist cops.

Escaping from prison doesn't exactly imply that he has learned from any of his mistakes.

Murdering two people isn't "a mistake."

“Allegedly” murdered.

Innocent until proven guilty.

And why are you so willing to vilify the guy? It’s because he’s BIPOC, isn’t it, you stupid MAGA.

DP. He is only allegedly a murderer for the murder in Brazil. There he is a wanted fugitive, but he escaped before his trial.

He was convicted in August of the murder of his girlfriend here in the US and he was sentenced to life in prison.

So, he is in fact a convicted murderer, just not a convicted double murderer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all really obnoxious. For weeks, in this heat, those officers have had to leave their families and search high and low through densely wooded areas. It would be easy for someone to hide, still each day. In a bush or tree.

The idiots are the civilians who are leaving cars with keys in them, and guns in plain sight, overnight in an unlocked garage, next to their ammunition!!!!

Do you know how much harder and more dangerous that makes LE’s job? He can easily highjack a car now, and go anywhere. The homeowner from last night should be charged for his reckless behavior.

Posters on here are making him sound like some hero!

+1. I have family in the immediate area who have been stopped a couple times on the roads to have their cars searched. They were flabbergasted that despite all the warnings for folks to keep their homes and cars picked, that someone would leave a vehicle unlocked with keys in the ignition! They spoke highly of the LEOs involved in what has no doubt been a tough case, especially in this heat (and before someone turns it political, they are Dems, not MaGA people).

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Anonymous wrote:The updated pics are interesting. Before I read about it or scrutinized, I actually thought from the prison video that he was black. Then I saw he is Brazilian. Clean shaven and with a hoodie, he could pass for white.

There is nothing about his crab walking video that looked Black. You likely assumed he was Black. Really.

Yeah, again I need PP to explain how she thought he was black. Even with his curly hair out, he’s not black or AA presenting whatsoever. I’m an AA fwiw.

Not PP. but he is very clearly BIPOC. Which means he is in great danger from the police just executing him, and getting away with it.

Maybe they will shoot him because he’s a 2 time murderer, prison escapee with a gun, not because he’s BLPOC.

Everyone makes mistakes, right? That doesn’t justify getting the death penalty from racist cops.

Escaping from prison doesn't exactly imply that he has learned from any of his mistakes.

Murdering two people isn't "a mistake."

“Allegedly” murdered.

Innocent until proven guilty.

And why are you so willing to vilify the guy? It’s because he’s BIPOC, isn’t it, you stupid MAGA.

He was convicted of the second one. Its not "alleged" any longer. And his motive for killing the second person was that she threatened to turn him in for the first murder.

All that said, I agree if he was planning to kill someone else he easily could have by now.

Don’t feed the troll.

[Anonymous]

I think the cops are doing a good job. If they had to do this all the time, they'd have better systems. They're usually not tracking an experienced escapee who already survived the Brazilian rain forest. He doesn't have a phone, so he'll eventually be spotted.


Also, he definitely looks white. I know plenty of Mayflower descendants with curly hair

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I mean what about infrared cameras? I'm really surprised he's still not been caught.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the cops are doing a good job. If they had to do this all the time, they'd have better systems. They're usually not tracking an experienced escapee who already survived the Brazilian rain forest. He doesn't have a phone, so he'll eventually be spotted.


Also, he definitely looks white. I know plenty of Mayflower descendants with curly hair

I do not know why I care but as a Brazilian, I can't keep reading this over and over in this thread and not say something. He did not survive the Brazilian rainforest. The area of Brazil he was living in is more akin to the Australian outback than a rainforest.

The NYTimes had a whole article about it this weekend. As they described it, "The dusty, wild Brazilian savanna provided the perfect cover for Mr. Cavalcante. Here, cattle ranches stretch for miles, flanked by shrubs and parched forest."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/us/cavalcante-brazil-escaped-prisoner-pennsylvania.html

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Anonymous wrote:I think the cops are doing a good job. If they had to do this all the time, they'd have better systems. They're usually not tracking an experienced escapee who already survived the Brazilian rain forest. He doesn't have a phone, so he'll eventually be spotted.


Also, he definitely looks white. I know plenty of Mayflower descendants with curly hair

I do not know why I care but as a Brazilian, I can't keep reading this over and over in this thread and not say something. He did not survive the Brazilian rainforest. The area of Brazil he was living in is more akin to the Australian outback than a rainforest.

The NYTimes had a whole article about it this weekend. As they described it, "The dusty, wild Brazilian savanna provided the perfect cover for Mr. Cavalcante. Here, cattle ranches stretch for miles, flanked by shrubs and parched forest."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/us/cavalcante-brazil-escaped-prisoner-pennsylvania.html

So he previously escaped in the Brazilian savannah. Not the rainforest. Sorry.

I've never heard of the Brazilian savannah before. It sounds like Africa

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He should NOT be able to highjack a car - this has nothing to do with ordinary citizens being reckless. This has to do with LEOs who provide for the safety of ordinary citizens doing their jobs. Admittedly it was smart citizens aren't helping the efforts but this is NOT the job responsibility they are charged with, it's police.

It’s ridiculous that people in the area couldn’t secure their weapons though. Good lord.

Immediate fine for any gun that is not secured. Charges if their unsecured gun is stolen and used in a crime.

I'd argue that a gun, particularly a hunting rifle, that's in a locked house/garage is secured.

Why are you making it about this homeowner and not the criminal that robbed them?!

We don’t know whether the garage was locked. The gun owner had secured his pistol which he used to fire at the guy, but apparently he hadn’t secured his rifle very well if at all.

It will be fun/sad to watch the NRA try to spin this to be consistent with their line that “arming people protects them.”

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Anonymous wrote:A 5ft man could easily pass as a boy or woman. He may never be caught.

At this point, I'm afraid he's going to walk right into a school ...

He has zero incentive to do that.

This. Not to mention he’s got a riffle. People who do school shootings don’t use riffles. Think people. Think.

This has to be the most ignorant, inane, clueless and factually incorrect post I’ve ever seen on DCUM; and I’ve seen some doozies.

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Anonymous wrote:A 5ft man could easily pass as a boy or woman. He may never be caught.

At this point, I'm afraid he's going to walk right into a school ...

He has zero incentive to do that.

This. Not to mention he’s got a riffle. People who do school shootings don’t use riffles. Think people. Think.

This has to be the most ignorant, inane, clueless and factually incorrect post I’ve ever seen on DCUM; and I’ve seen some doozies.

He's right. They use rifles

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Anonymous wrote:

He should NOT be able to highjack a car - this has nothing to do with ordinary citizens being reckless. This has to do with LEOs who provide for the safety of ordinary citizens doing their jobs. Admittedly it was smart citizens aren't helping the efforts but this is NOT the job responsibility they are charged with, it's police.

It’s ridiculous that people in the area couldn’t secure their weapons though. Good lord.

Immediate fine for any gun that is not secured. Charges if their unsecured gun is stolen and used in a crime.

I'd argue that a gun, particularly a hunting rifle, that's in a locked house/garage is secured.

Why are you making it about this homeowner and not the criminal that robbed them?!

You didn’t read the police report that a PP helpfully quoted for you. The garage was open and the gun was loaded and leaning up against the corner. And I can still judge people who don’t secure loaded weapons with an escaped murdered running around while I am judging this escaped murderer who they’re helping.
- someone whose weapon is in a combination safe

[Anonymous]

Yeah IDK why everyone is defending the homeowner so hard here. Like fine he decided that while an escapee was on the run in his area, that was the time to take inventory of his weaponry and get prepped for his moment of glory. Fine. Could he not have left weapons out in the open someplace other than his garage - like maybe inside his house? Could he not have closed the freaking garage door?

I am actually surprised that the cops are not giving more explicit directions on what to do/not.

I mean I follow PA State Troopers any way bc I'm from up there and every time there's a perimeter or sighting, they basically give a general location and say "Residents should secure buildings, property and vehicles."

Given how dumb people are I feel like it should be more explicit - lock every door/window with exterior access at your house; lock your shed; lock your cars and move them into a garage if you have one; close your garage door; no this isn't the time to be rolling your trash cans to the curb; don't leave shoes on your porch [he got a pair of work boots last night which are probably easier to run in than prison shoes]; don't leave your online grocery orders on your porch - he is looking to eat etc.

[Anonymous]

I don't watch much of the crime drama stuff so IDK but does anyone find it totally bizarre that this guy has had opportunity but won't LEAVE?? I mean he's hours ahead of the cops at every step which gives him lead time yet he just runs back to the woods to live under tree canopies??

On Sat night he escapes the gardens, steals a milk delivery van from a farm/dairy at 8 pm and it isn't reported stolen until 4 am. 8 hrs could've been a lot of driving time to get out of the area but instead he drives 40 min north.

Ok maybe that time he was trying to get to his sister - that's how he got a razor, different shirt, probably some money [bc he was seen putting gas in the van etc]. But then he ditches the van and is back in the woods.

Maybe he felt like without a weapon he couldn't get anywhere. After you aren't making a run for the Mexican border in something as conspicious as a delivery van. But then last night he grabs a gun at 10 pm - police bumbles around for an hour or two setting up a perimeter - that was enough time to jack a car and go, no?

Though Pa PD isn't responding to questions on it - but last night they were supposedly searching for a black SUV bc a witness swore they saw a witness of his description with a rifle get into the trunk of the SUV. Maybe he got on one of his gang member buddies to come from Philly and drive him out.

But again tonight in the last hr, someone says they saw him in the area again - so same game of perimeter etc. Just LEAVE already buddy. Is it that he doesn't want to leave for some reason? Like he's trying to get to the gf's family to target them? Or he simply wants suicide by cop?