Why can't police find the escaped prisoner in Philly?

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He should NOT be able to highjack a car - this has nothing to do with ordinary citizens being reckless. This has to do with LEOs who provide for the safety of ordinary citizens doing their jobs. Admittedly it was smart citizens aren't helping the efforts but this is NOT the job responsibility they are charged with, it's police.

It’s ridiculous that people in the area couldn’t secure their weapons though. Good lord.

Immediate fine for any gun that is not secured. Charges if their unsecured gun is stolen and used in a crime.

I'd argue that a gun, particularly a hunting rifle, that's in a locked house/garage is secured.

Why are you making it about this homeowner and not the criminal that robbed them?!

But the garage was not locked, or even closed, even though he knew that a murderer was loose in his neighborhood.

And the ammo right stored right next to it. Irresponsible ownership. Right there.

We are focusing on this guy, because he personally armed a dangerous fugitive.
Literally, it would not have happened, had he taken responsibility for this lethal possession.

(There are bad guys around all the time, everywhere. Responsible citizens have to do their part, or it all goes to hell)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are all really obnoxious. For weeks, in this heat, those officers have had to leave their families and search high and low through densely wooded areas. It would be easy for someone to hide, still each day. In a bush or tree.

The idiots are the civilians who are leaving cars with keys in them, and guns in plain sight, overnight in an unlocked garage, next to their ammunition!!!!

Do you know how much harder and more dangerous that makes LE’s job? He can easily highjack a car now, and go anywhere. The homeowner from last night should be charged for his reckless behavior.

Posters on here are making him sound like some hero!

And you are a cop apologist. Why?

They are not our staff.

We are all members of the same community.

They risk their lives to keep us safe.

We just want to go about our business and not be bothered by the dangerous evil guys who share the planet.

We expect young, poorly paid LE officers to keep them from interfering with our goals.

They are sons and fathers (and mothers and daughters), and you should be more grateful that some people are wiling to do those thankless, difficult jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah IDK why everyone is defending the homeowner so hard here. Like fine he decided that while an escapee was on the run in his area, that was the time to take inventory of his weaponry and get prepped for his moment of glory. Fine. Could he not have left weapons out in the open someplace other than his garage - like maybe inside his house? Could he not have closed the freaking garage door?

I am actually surprised that the cops are not giving more explicit directions on what to do/not.

I mean I follow PA State Troopers any way bc I'm from up there and every time there's a perimeter or sighting, they basically give a general location and say "Residents should secure buildings, property and vehicles."

Given how dumb people are I feel like it should be more explicit - lock every door/window with exterior access at your house; lock your shed; lock your cars and move them into a garage if you have one; close your garage door; no this isn't the time to be rolling your trash cans to the curb; don't leave shoes on your porch [he got a pair of work boots last night which are probably easier to run in than prison shoes]; don't leave your online grocery orders on your porch - he is looking to eat etc.

THANK YOU. I was surprised by the lack of detail as well and you summed it up perfectly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't watch much of the crime drama stuff so IDK but does anyone find it totally bizarre that this guy has had opportunity but won't LEAVE?? I mean he's hours ahead of the cops at every step which gives him lead time yet he just runs back to the woods to live under tree canopies??

On Sat night he escapes the gardens, steals a milk delivery van from a farm/dairy at 8 pm and it isn't reported stolen until 4 am. 8 hrs could've been a lot of driving time to get out of the area but instead he drives 40 min north.

Ok maybe that time he was trying to get to his sister - that's how he got a razor, different shirt, probably some money [bc he was seen putting gas in the van etc]. But then he ditches the van and is back in the woods.

Maybe he felt like without a weapon he couldn't get anywhere. After you aren't making a run for the Mexican border in something as conspicious as a delivery van. But then last night he grabs a gun at 10 pm - police bumbles around for an hour or two setting up a perimeter - that was enough time to jack a car and go, no?

Though Pa PD isn't responding to questions on it - but last night they were supposedly searching for a black SUV bc a witness swore they saw a witness of his description with a rifle get into the trunk of the SUV. Maybe he got on one of his gang member buddies to come from Philly and drive him out.

But again tonight in the last hr, someone says they saw him in the area again - so same game of perimeter etc. Just LEAVE already buddy. Is it that he doesn't want to leave for some reason? Like he's trying to get to the gf's family to target them? Or he simply wants suicide by cop?

It's not nearly as easy for him to leave as you think it is.

[Anonymous]

If he left in the dairy van he would have been easily tracked. It’s actually much easier to hide than to run.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are all really obnoxious. For weeks, in this heat, those officers have had to leave their families and search high and low through densely wooded areas. It would be easy for someone to hide, still each day. In a bush or tree.

The idiots are the civilians who are leaving cars with keys in them, and guns in plain sight, overnight in an unlocked garage, next to their ammunition!!!!

Do you know how much harder and more dangerous that makes LE’s job? He can easily highjack a car now, and go anywhere. The homeowner from last night should be charged for his reckless behavior.

Posters on here are making him sound like some hero!

And you are a cop apologist. Why?

They are not our staff.

We are all members of the same community.

They risk their lives to keep us safe.

We just want to go about our business and not be bothered by the dangerous evil guys who share the planet.

We expect young, poorly paid LE officers to keep them from interfering with our goals.

They are sons and fathers (and mothers and daughters), and you should be more grateful that some people are wiling to do those thankless, difficult jobs.

No one forced these people to apply for these jobs. They aren’t risking their lives. They’re running around like self important chickens with their heads cut off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't watch much of the crime drama stuff so IDK but does anyone find it totally bizarre that this guy has had opportunity but won't LEAVE?? I mean he's hours ahead of the cops at every step which gives him lead time yet he just runs back to the woods to live under tree canopies??

On Sat night he escapes the gardens, steals a milk delivery van from a farm/dairy at 8 pm and it isn't reported stolen until 4 am. 8 hrs could've been a lot of driving time to get out of the area but instead he drives 40 min north.

Ok maybe that time he was trying to get to his sister - that's how he got a razor, different shirt, probably some money [bc he was seen putting gas in the van etc]. But then he ditches the van and is back in the woods.

Maybe he felt like without a weapon he couldn't get anywhere. After you aren't making a run for the Mexican border in something as conspicious as a delivery van. But then last night he grabs a gun at 10 pm - police bumbles around for an hour or two setting up a perimeter - that was enough time to jack a car and go, no?

Though Pa PD isn't responding to questions on it - but last night they were supposedly searching for a black SUV bc a witness swore they saw a witness of his description with a rifle get into the trunk of the SUV. Maybe he got on one of his gang member buddies to come from Philly and drive him out.

But again tonight in the last hr, someone says they saw him in the area again - so same game of perimeter etc. Just LEAVE already buddy. Is it that he doesn't want to leave for some reason? Like he's trying to get to the gf's family to target them? Or he simply wants suicide by cop?

It's not nearly as easy for him to leave as you think it is.

Even now? With a gun? I agree a car jacked car would be reported fast with an APB/BOLO but I assumed with a weapon he’d get out of the area, get a different car etc - just keep switching.

Without a weapon I agree - I mean if the only option had been the milk truck, he wouldn’t have had any way to get a different vehicle and something that big and conspicuous would’ve been spotted well before it even got out of Pa borders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If he left in the dairy van he would have been easily tracked. It’s actually much easier to hide than to run.

Yeah but what’s the end game with hiding? Suicide? Suicide by cop? Bc if they keep looking at some point they’ll find him — hell the leaves start falling off the trees in a few weeks and there goes the tree canopy that’s hiding him from the overhead helicopters.

[Anonymous]

How does he avoid K-9 cops?

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Anonymous wrote:A 5ft man could easily pass as a boy or woman. He may never be caught.

At this point, I'm afraid he's going to walk right into a school ...

He has zero incentive to do that.

This. Not to mention he’s got a riffle. People who do school shootings don’t use riffles. Think people. Think.

This has to be the most ignorant, inane, clueless and factually incorrect post I’ve ever seen on DCUM; and I’ve seen some doozies.

He's right. They use rifles

Semi automatic riffles. Not the riffle this person stole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does he avoid K-9 cops?

On the ring camera video on Sat night he’s seen with a thing of Clorox wipes/cleaner. Apparently bleach throws off those dogs’ sense of smell. So I’m guessing he’s stashed some of those wipes in his newly acquired work boots and also in his pants etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he gas money for the van?

The sisters best friend is where he got some packages they said

Packages? Where is this stated? Reported?

Nevermind, Just read this on CNN news. His sister is being detained and deported evidently, for not cooperating.

Good!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean what about infrared cameras? I'm really surprised he's still not been caught.

I heard that the high heat was making it difficult to get accurate readings - should be better when the temps decline in the next days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does he avoid K-9 cops?

On the ring camera video on Sat night he’s seen with a thing of Clorox wipes/cleaner. Apparently bleach throws off those dogs’ sense of smell. So I’m guessing he’s stashed some of those wipes in his newly acquired work boots and also in his pants etc.

Ahhh! Hadn't read about that. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean what about infrared cameras? I'm really surprised he's still not been caught.

I heard that the high heat was making it difficult to get accurate readings - should be better when the temps decline in the next days.

Tonight is the first night I’ve even heard them talk about detecting a heat signature in the woods and pushing into the woods and then the heat signature moves. That’s happening now - could be him; assuming they have a way to distinguish animal heat signature vs human - why else would a person be in the woods at 2 am. So yeah that tech is now finally available to them - at least at night with cooler temps.