Europe investigating suicidal thoughts with weight loss drugs

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

No, it's about as moronic as saying that people who get butt implants get all the same exact bodily benefits without any of the "suffering" of actual training and fitness. I hope pp was trolling, because if serious, they're really deep into the delusion.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

No, it's about as moronic as saying that people who get butt implants get all the same exact bodily benefits without any of the "suffering" of actual training and fitness. I hope pp was trolling, because if serious, they're really deep into the delusion.

Huh. So you really are furious about these drugs. Well, I wish you some peace. That must be hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

No, it's about as moronic as saying that people who get butt implants get all the same exact bodily benefits without any of the "suffering" of actual training and fitness. I hope pp was trolling, because if serious, they're really deep into the delusion.

Huh. So you really are furious about these drugs. Well, I wish you some peace. That must be hard.

Nope. And where you getting "furious" from? Do you know what that word means?"

You do you, but it's not the same, no matter how you spin it.

Peace out. I'm going to bed to wake up at 4:30 for a 5am run, which I embraced and taught myself in the journey of losing and maintaining a 60lb weightloss. It will suck with the humidity, but damn will it feel so good to do something with my body I couldn't do before. Have a nice weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

No, it's about as moronic as saying that people who get butt implants get all the same exact bodily benefits without any of the "suffering" of actual training and fitness. I hope pp was trolling, because if serious, they're really deep into the delusion.

Huh. So you really are furious about these drugs. Well, I wish you some peace. That must be hard.

Nope. And where you getting "furious" from? Do you know what that word means?"

You do you, but it's not the same, no matter how you spin it.

Peace out. I'm going to bed to wake up at 4:30 for a 5am run, which I embraced and taught myself in the journey of losing and maintaining a 60lb weightloss. It will suck with the humidity, but damn will it feel so good to do something with my body I couldn't do before. Have a nice weekend.

The people that can now exercise and run will have that same feeling now that they have lost weight with Ozempic as well. As they say win-win for all the weight losers.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, I’m a fat woman and I really, really want Wegovy and others in this class of drugs to be safe. I am concerned about the mental health effects of these medications, though. One of my old friends from high school has bipolar illness and just shared on social media last week that she admitted herself to inpatient treatment for suicidal ideation and severe depression recently. As a result, she stopped taking the Wegivy she had begun taking. Her clinicians for her brain illness said that they had had several patients on that class of meds have extreme emotional dystegularion followed by suicidal symptoms and had to stop taking them as a result.

I’ve been following a lot of the very promising research on ketogenic therapies for bio polar illness and depression, and it’s clear that diet changes can have a huge impact on brain function and cognition. It scares the heck out of me that these medications could worsen my depression, but I am SO envious of those who have had success with them and wish that for myself.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I’m a fat woman and I really, really want Wegovy and others in this class of drugs to be safe. I am concerned about the mental health effects of these medications, though. One of my old friends from high school has bipolar illness and just shared on social media last week that she admitted herself to inpatient treatment for suicidal ideation and severe depression recently. As a result, she stopped taking the Wegivy she had begun taking. Her clinicians for her brain illness said that they had had several patients on that class of meds have extreme emotional dystegularion followed by suicidal symptoms and had to stop taking them as a result.

I’ve been following a lot of the very promising research on ketogenic therapies for bio polar illness and depression, and it’s clear that diet changes can have a huge impact on brain function and cognition. It scares the heck out of me that these medications could worsen my depression, but I am SO envious of those who have had success with them and wish that for myself.

You could always start a low dose and stay there rather than moving up.

And I mean this with love, but the bipolar people I have known, especially when they have been have been hospitalized, the “news” they bear from doctors is best taken with a grain of salt.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I’m a fat woman and I really, really want Wegovy and others in this class of drugs to be safe. I am concerned about the mental health effects of these medications, though. One of my old friends from high school has bipolar illness and just shared on social media last week that she admitted herself to inpatient treatment for suicidal ideation and severe depression recently. As a result, she stopped taking the Wegivy she had begun taking. Her clinicians for her brain illness said that they had had several patients on that class of meds have extreme emotional dystegularion followed by suicidal symptoms and had to stop taking them as a result.

I’ve been following a lot of the very promising research on ketogenic therapies for bio polar illness and depression, and it’s clear that diet changes can have a huge impact on brain function and cognition. It scares the heck out of me that these medications could worsen my depression, but I am SO envious of those who have had success with them and wish that for myself.

You could always start a low dose and stay there rather than moving up.

And I mean this with love, but the bipolar people I have known, especially when they have been have been hospitalized, the “news” they bear from doctors is best taken with a grain of salt.

+1

My DH and I have lived this up close with a bipolar relative whose had also been hospitalized. There is a very large gap in what our relative says on social media about health and what the doctors say and what reality is.

That having been said, I would search out an endocrinologist who has been treating diabetic patients with this class of medication for ten years or so, and ask your specific question. They might have insight over their patient populations.

This is a powerful drug. People are starting to use it off label for alcoholism too. It makes sense that for some people, there are some mental impacts, but there are also mental impacts of untreated obesity, particularly given the “willpower” narrative.

Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

+1. “Natural” weight loss isn’t unnecessary suffering. It’s an opportunity, actually!

Also the point above about these tools making us beholden to Big Pharma made me realize that, every time I go to the grocery, I’m beholden to Big Ag. I’m going to hunt & gather from now on.

[Anonymous]

I run & lift weights and neither have any real effect on my weight. I’ve always been skinny with or without exercise. You can (and should!) enjoy the benefits of exercise without tying them to weight gain, loss, or maintenance.

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Anonymous wrote:I run & lift weights and neither have any real effect on my weight. I’ve always been skinny with or without exercise. You can (and should!) enjoy the benefits of exercise without tying them to weight gain, loss, or maintenance.

But weight loss is a big motivator. I've always been skinny, too, but I started exercising after I had my first child and wanted to lose the pregnancy weight. I continue to exercise because it helps with my mental health. I don't know if the continued exercise is why I remain thin, but I suspect it helps.

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Anonymous wrote:I run & lift weights and neither have any real effect on my weight. I’ve always been skinny with or without exercise. You can (and should!) enjoy the benefits of exercise without tying them to weight gain, loss, or maintenance.

But weight loss is a big motivator. I've always been skinny, too, but I started exercising after I had my first child and wanted to lose the pregnancy weight. I continue to exercise because it helps with my mental health. I don't know if the continued exercise is why I remain thin, but I suspect it helps.

It might be but I think the key to not getting fat is not getting fat. Ride those genetics and don’t get fat. Truly once the cascade of metabolic and potentially neurological changes (https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/health/obesity-changes-brain-wellness/index.html) happens, it’s a different thing entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find this concerning?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/eu-probes-novo-nordisk-drugs-after-reports-of-suicidal-thoughts/ar-AA1dFsVy

This forum pumps these drugs like you should pop them like candy. Has anyone on these drugs noticed any disturbed thoughts you didn't have before you were on them?

three cases of patients on the drugs thinking about suicide or self-harm.

No one monitors this among gen pop not already under the care of a doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

Yeah, no. I’m not letting you say that to people like me and not calling it out for what it is, BS. That after years or decades or a lifetime of struggle with our weight and the mental, emotional, social, and physical burden of obesity, our weight loss is not as beneficial as those who had to put in more effort. As if we somehow sold ourselves short because we were not able to achieve weight loss without it. PP has every right to be proud of the effort they put in, but their journey is not any more valuable than mine.

It’s like telling a formerly homeless person that the roof over their head doesn’t provide them as many benefits as their neighbor who had to work three jobs to afford the security deposit. The growth they missed out on because they didn’t work hard! The self-confidence! What utter nonsense.

Have you ever had a consensual relationship with anyone, or did the damage inflicted on you by Society At Large for your involuntary corpulence prevent that? And does finding “cute clothes” (sz 14 at Loft) for the time being make up for it?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

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I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

Yeah, no. I’m not letting you say that to people like me and not calling it out for what it is, BS. That after years or decades or a lifetime of struggle with our weight and the mental, emotional, social, and physical burden of obesity, our weight loss is not as beneficial as those who had to put in more effort. As if we somehow sold ourselves short because we were not able to achieve weight loss without it. PP has every right to be proud of the effort they put in, but their journey is not any more valuable than mine.

It’s like telling a formerly homeless person that the roof over their head doesn’t provide them as many benefits as their neighbor who had to work three jobs to afford the security deposit. The growth they missed out on because they didn’t work hard! The self-confidence! What utter nonsense.

Sorry, but it's not all about you. You don't get to ignore the experience of people who successfully lost and maintained large weightloss all on their own. You want to take a drug or get surgery? Go for it. I wish you success. But the benefits of doing it on your own are incredible and unparalleled - that's WHY it's so hard. That's WHY so many people have not (yet) been able to do it. And the confidence gained from doing it on your own is incredibly valuable - who are you to dismiss it, if you have not experienced it?

Go do your own journey and enjoy it, but don't pretend like the 2 are comparable. Losing weight (and maintaining) on your own is incredibly hard, and of course it's different and more valuable in some ways.

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^p. This is because you believe that somehow morality is wrapped up in being thin and fat. But in order to believe that, you have to believe that all fat people are lazy sloths and all thin people are rugged and hearty.

And that's not true