Europe investigating suicidal thoughts with weight loss drugs

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

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I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Well, I don’t have a problem with weight, so I wouldn’t know the difference. You keep “doing your research,” though. 👍👍👍

Just don’t stop posting here. I read these threads for entertainment value from the seething and increasingly crazy anti-fat posters, and you are good for that.

Sure thing. You haven’t pointed out anything of substance anywhere. So you aren’t even adding to the discussion. So we have that.

And since you have never had a weight problem you don’t have any perspective anyways. So why are you even in the discussion at all.?

You don’t know what posts are mine. I will admit, though, that there is nothing of substance in my posts where I mock you. But that’s because I’m mocking substance-free posts themselves.

I don’t really think you deserve a serious answer to your question, but I am going to give one: because I am convinced that people like you, the “it’s all willpower” and “put down the Twinkie” crowd, are blindly parroting the propaganda of chemical, pesticide, medical, and/or agricultural industries that are desperately putting off investigations into food production and/or medical practices that have caused large-scale inflammatory responses that cost billions in healthcare and shortened lives. Something foundational has changed in our food supply or our medical practices in the past 50 years, something that is seen across humans and animals, something profound. Obesity is just the tip of the iceberg here: Type 1 diabetes in children has skyrocketed, for instance, even among kids that are normal or underweight.

But so long as people remain convinced — in spite of increasing piles of evidence to the contrary — that obesity is just a matter of willpower or the ridiculous theory about emotional problems above, we will not make progress on getting to the root of what appears to be a global sharp rise in inflammatory and auto-immune responses. And there are so many possible causes: Pesticides? Antibiotics? Vaccine immune responses? Something we don’t understand at all? Honestly it’s probably a complexity of causes.

But none of that investigation will happen so long as people insist there is a moral component to weight. It makes me angry, to be honest, because I think people like you are costing people their lives. You value your ego as a skinny person so much, it’s so critical to your self-worth, that you’ll freak out and try to sabotage any discussion that even hints at a systemic problem. Your ego matters more to you than improving the health of millions of people. So yes, I will mock you and jump in on these threads because I think people like you are harming others.

Quite the wall of text here.

You are wildly mischaracterizing my views here. I am in agreement with much of what you say concerning our systems and possible causes. What I am not willing to agree with is the idea that this is ALL external for every single person. And that no person has any control of the weight and obesity. That is complete and utter BS and the reverse of empowering.

I have posted that over and over and over again. That turns into fat shaming and the extreme misrepresentation you posted above.

PP has no real ability to discern nuance and or digest what people say from experience. Continually calling others "fat shamers" is their only retort because they simply lack actual viable experience on the topic.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Well, I don’t have a problem with weight, so I wouldn’t know the difference. You keep “doing your research,” though. 👍👍👍

Just don’t stop posting here. I read these threads for entertainment value from the seething and increasingly crazy anti-fat posters, and you are good for that.

Sure thing. You haven’t pointed out anything of substance anywhere. So you aren’t even adding to the discussion. So we have that.

And since you have never had a weight problem you don’t have any perspective anyways. So why are you even in the discussion at all.?

You don’t know what posts are mine. I will admit, though, that there is nothing of substance in my posts where I mock you. But that’s because I’m mocking substance-free posts themselves.

I don’t really think you deserve a serious answer to your question, but I am going to give one: because I am convinced that people like you, the “it’s all willpower” and “put down the Twinkie” crowd, are blindly parroting the propaganda of chemical, pesticide, medical, and/or agricultural industries that are desperately putting off investigations into food production and/or medical practices that have caused large-scale inflammatory responses that cost billions in healthcare and shortened lives. Something foundational has changed in our food supply or our medical practices in the past 50 years, something that is seen across humans and animals, something profound. Obesity is just the tip of the iceberg here: Type 1 diabetes in children has skyrocketed, for instance, even among kids that are normal or underweight.

But so long as people remain convinced — in spite of increasing piles of evidence to the contrary — that obesity is just a matter of willpower or the ridiculous theory about emotional problems above, we will not make progress on getting to the root of what appears to be a global sharp rise in inflammatory and auto-immune responses. And there are so many possible causes: Pesticides? Antibiotics? Vaccine immune responses? Something we don’t understand at all? Honestly it’s probably a complexity of causes.

But none of that investigation will happen so long as people insist there is a moral component to weight. It makes me angry, to be honest, because I think people like you are costing people their lives. You value your ego as a skinny person so much, it’s so critical to your self-worth, that you’ll freak out and try to sabotage any discussion that even hints at a systemic problem. Your ego matters more to you than improving the health of millions of people. So yes, I will mock you and jump in on these threads because I think people like you are harming others.

N(ish)P (aka not going back and forth with you previously):

Thank you.

+1

It’s only a wall of text if you can’t read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of being a raging CU Next Tuesday maybe you should get in your hands and knees and be grateful that you don’t struggle with your own obesity and are so content riding up on your high horse.

What does this word salad mean? Are you a native English speaker? I think the idiom you were reaching for was get on your knees?

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of being a raging CU Next Tuesday maybe you should get in your hands and knees and be grateful that you don’t struggle with your own obesity and are so content riding up on your high horse.

What does this word salad mean? Are you a native English speaker? I think the idiom you were reaching for was get on your knees?

The I and O are next to each other on qwerty keyboard… this isn’t the burn you thought it would be.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Well, I don’t have a problem with weight, so I wouldn’t know the difference. You keep “doing your research,” though. 👍👍👍

Just don’t stop posting here. I read these threads for entertainment value from the seething and increasingly crazy anti-fat posters, and you are good for that.

Sure thing. You haven’t pointed out anything of substance anywhere. So you aren’t even adding to the discussion. So we have that.

And since you have never had a weight problem you don’t have any perspective anyways. So why are you even in the discussion at all.?

You don’t know what posts are mine. I will admit, though, that there is nothing of substance in my posts where I mock you. But that’s because I’m mocking substance-free posts themselves.

I don’t really think you deserve a serious answer to your question, but I am going to give one: because I am convinced that people like you, the “it’s all willpower” and “put down the Twinkie” crowd, are blindly parroting the propaganda of chemical, pesticide, medical, and/or agricultural industries that are desperately putting off investigations into food production and/or medical practices that have caused large-scale inflammatory responses that cost billions in healthcare and shortened lives. Something foundational has changed in our food supply or our medical practices in the past 50 years, something that is seen across humans and animals, something profound. Obesity is just the tip of the iceberg here: Type 1 diabetes in children has skyrocketed, for instance, even among kids that are normal or underweight.

But so long as people remain convinced — in spite of increasing piles of evidence to the contrary — that obesity is just a matter of willpower or the ridiculous theory about emotional problems above, we will not make progress on getting to the root of what appears to be a global sharp rise in inflammatory and auto-immune responses. And there are so many possible causes: Pesticides? Antibiotics? Vaccine immune responses? Something we don’t understand at all? Honestly it’s probably a complexity of causes.

But none of that investigation will happen so long as people insist there is a moral component to weight. It makes me angry, to be honest, because I think people like you are costing people their lives. You value your ego as a skinny person so much, it’s so critical to your self-worth, that you’ll freak out and try to sabotage any discussion that even hints at a systemic problem. Your ego matters more to you than improving the health of millions of people. So yes, I will mock you and jump in on these threads because I think people like you are harming others.

Quite the wall of text here.

You are wildly mischaracterizing my views here. I am in agreement with much of what you say concerning our systems and possible causes. What I am not willing to agree with is the idea that this is ALL external for every single person. And that no person has any control of the weight and obesity. That is complete and utter BS and the reverse of empowering.

I have posted that over and over and over again. That turns into fat shaming and the extreme misrepresentation you posted above.

Nope. You can’t post over and over about how people need to take control or solve their emotional problems or whatever nonsense fat-shaming rhetoric you want to use and then claim that, actually you care about systemic solutions. You don’t. You are profoundly about blaming other individuals first and foremost, because your own emotional issues demand it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Well, I don’t have a problem with weight, so I wouldn’t know the difference. You keep “doing your research,” though. 👍👍👍

Just don’t stop posting here. I read these threads for entertainment value from the seething and increasingly crazy anti-fat posters, and you are good for that.

Sure thing. You haven’t pointed out anything of substance anywhere. So you aren’t even adding to the discussion. So we have that.

And since you have never had a weight problem you don’t have any perspective anyways. So why are you even in the discussion at all.?

You don’t know what posts are mine. I will admit, though, that there is nothing of substance in my posts where I mock you. But that’s because I’m mocking substance-free posts themselves.

I don’t really think you deserve a serious answer to your question, but I am going to give one: because I am convinced that people like you, the “it’s all willpower” and “put down the Twinkie” crowd, are blindly parroting the propaganda of chemical, pesticide, medical, and/or agricultural industries that are desperately putting off investigations into food production and/or medical practices that have caused large-scale inflammatory responses that cost billions in healthcare and shortened lives. Something foundational has changed in our food supply or our medical practices in the past 50 years, something that is seen across humans and animals, something profound. Obesity is just the tip of the iceberg here: Type 1 diabetes in children has skyrocketed, for instance, even among kids that are normal or underweight.

But so long as people remain convinced — in spite of increasing piles of evidence to the contrary — that obesity is just a matter of willpower or the ridiculous theory about emotional problems above, we will not make progress on getting to the root of what appears to be a global sharp rise in inflammatory and auto-immune responses. And there are so many possible causes: Pesticides? Antibiotics? Vaccine immune responses? Something we don’t understand at all? Honestly it’s probably a complexity of causes.

But none of that investigation will happen so long as people insist there is a moral component to weight. It makes me angry, to be honest, because I think people like you are costing people their lives. You value your ego as a skinny person so much, it’s so critical to your self-worth, that you’ll freak out and try to sabotage any discussion that even hints at a systemic problem. Your ego matters more to you than improving the health of millions of people. So yes, I will mock you and jump in on these threads because I think people like you are harming others.

N(ish)P (aka not going back and forth with you previously):

Thank you.

+1

It’s only a wall of text if you can’t read.

Yes, that comment was actually a confession.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

Sorry - not mad at all. Another massive misrepresentation. And more projection of weight being tied into your whole entire being. I don’t even think about it other than when I wade into this echo chamber.

My whole point has been pretty easy to follow all along. If you want to be beholden to drug companies it’s no different than being addicted to anything else. I’d suggest that isn’t necessary for everybody. None of this is the extremes. There are some for who it might be needed but not ALL. But if you think everybody should just toss their hands up and say it’s all Extemal go ahead I guess. If that’s the attitude I don’t see a lot of any other accomplishment flowing from that.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Well, I don’t have a problem with weight, so I wouldn’t know the difference. You keep “doing your research,” though. 👍👍👍

Just don’t stop posting here. I read these threads for entertainment value from the seething and increasingly crazy anti-fat posters, and you are good for that.

Sure thing. You haven’t pointed out anything of substance anywhere. So you aren’t even adding to the discussion. So we have that.

And since you have never had a weight problem you don’t have any perspective anyways. So why are you even in the discussion at all.?

You don’t know what posts are mine. I will admit, though, that there is nothing of substance in my posts where I mock you. But that’s because I’m mocking substance-free posts themselves.

I don’t really think you deserve a serious answer to your question, but I am going to give one: because I am convinced that people like you, the “it’s all willpower” and “put down the Twinkie” crowd, are blindly parroting the propaganda of chemical, pesticide, medical, and/or agricultural industries that are desperately putting off investigations into food production and/or medical practices that have caused large-scale inflammatory responses that cost billions in healthcare and shortened lives. Something foundational has changed in our food supply or our medical practices in the past 50 years, something that is seen across humans and animals, something profound. Obesity is just the tip of the iceberg here: Type 1 diabetes in children has skyrocketed, for instance, even among kids that are normal or underweight.

But so long as people remain convinced — in spite of increasing piles of evidence to the contrary — that obesity is just a matter of willpower or the ridiculous theory about emotional problems above, we will not make progress on getting to the root of what appears to be a global sharp rise in inflammatory and auto-immune responses. And there are so many possible causes: Pesticides? Antibiotics? Vaccine immune responses? Something we don’t understand at all? Honestly it’s probably a complexity of causes.

But none of that investigation will happen so long as people insist there is a moral component to weight. It makes me angry, to be honest, because I think people like you are costing people their lives. You value your ego as a skinny person so much, it’s so critical to your self-worth, that you’ll freak out and try to sabotage any discussion that even hints at a systemic problem. Your ego matters more to you than improving the health of millions of people. So yes, I will mock you and jump in on these threads because I think people like you are harming others.

Quite the wall of text here.

You are wildly mischaracterizing my views here. I am in agreement with much of what you say concerning our systems and possible causes. What I am not willing to agree with is the idea that this is ALL external for every single person. And that no person has any control of the weight and obesity. That is complete and utter BS and the reverse of empowering.

I have posted that over and over and over again. That turns into fat shaming and the extreme misrepresentation you posted above.

Nope. You can’t post over and over about how people need to take control or solve their emotional problems or whatever nonsense fat-shaming rhetoric you want to use and then claim that, actually you care about systemic solutions. You don’t. You are profoundly about blaming other individuals first and foremost, because your own emotional issues demand it.

Stop having a tantrum!

See how dumb that response just was. That’s the quality of the discourse here.

Turns out you can care. I’m doing it. You can do that while recognizing that it’s not all external. Pretending it’s all external is total BS and one part of the failure puzzle whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

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I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

Sorry - not mad at all. Another massive misrepresentation. And more projection of weight being tied into your whole entire being. I don’t even think about it other than when I wade into this echo chamber.

My whole point has been pretty easy to follow all along. If you want to be beholden to drug companies it’s no different than being addicted to anything else. I’d suggest that isn’t necessary for everybody. None of this is the extremes. There are some for who it might be needed but not ALL. But if you think everybody should just toss their hands up and say it’s all Extemal go ahead I guess. If that’s the attitude I don’t see a lot of any other accomplishment flowing from that.

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Okay, now we know you are pulling our legs. Lady, you haunt these threads. You are almost instantly recognizable to anyone who reads just a few threads on weight here. You are the Moaning Myrtle of DCUM weight loss threads. I’m sorry, but the bolded is hilariously un-self-aware. It’s just so plainly not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

DP.
Oh come on. You have to admit that was pretty funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.

Hi, I’m the poster than mentioned the ridiculous vaccine mandates in relation to people being shouted down. Of course, analogies are hard, so that went over a bunch of heads.

I went through the initial vaccination round and one booster. I have since stopped and won’t be bothering again given my risk profile. One I formed myself by turning my health around.

As for intersections, the group that isn’t willing to do the work to avoid Covid being a problem and scrambling for a passive solution in the form of endless vaccines is the same group that cedes their autonomy to big pharma to eliminate their obesity problem. Funny how that works out. Meanwhile, none of them have bothered reading any of the labels / package inserts for any of these drugs. Reading is also hard.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hope you never stop posting here. You are endlessly entertaining.

Are you also the one who believes Big Pharma is…checks notes… harvesting the posts of moms on a small DC-based message board to decide the Big Pharma multi-billion dollar global advertising strategy? Do you also believe Meghan Markle is posting here? Do tell us more!

Actually no, I definitely don’t think that. Never posted anything like that.

Look, if you want to be unexceptional and cede your life over, go right ahead. At least do some basic research, even though it might require some reading. Though I have my doubts you would understand much of an FDA mandated label / package insert anyways given this response.

I’ll go back to not being fat and doing a lot of fun/epic things I couldn’t do when I was fat. I have no plans of ever living my life that way again. You ought to try it out some time. 🍻

Ooooh, I get it. You're mad you had to lose weight without a convenient tool that makes it much easier. I too am enjoying doing a lot of fun things, wearing cute clothes, and improvement in my health markers. Life is so much better now. The best part is it's been almost totally painless--no hunger, no restriction, no calorie counting. Just eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full and the same exercise I did all along.

Since you know how much it sucks to be fat, why on earth would you discourage people from taking a medication that will make it so much easier not to be? There is no reason that makes sense other than that you are bitter that you had it harder than we do. You feel it takes away from your accomplishment to have all these formerly fat people running around who didn't earn it, who didn't suitably punish themselves enough. It just kills you that we get the same benefits and none of the suffering.

DP.

By taking a drug, you do NOT get all the same benefits of weight loss "the old fashioned way." Wow. I can't believe you're even suggesting that. Weightloss isn't just about weight or getting to a smaller size, it's about developing the confidence you can do really hard things, get really strong, overcome massive hurdles, and untangle how you got to be obese in the first place.

By all means, do what you want to lose weight. But do NOT make the comparison that they're the same and lead to the same benefits. That is absurd. There's also a hell of a lot of growth gained from "suffering" (I'd call it working hard towards a goal, instead of "suffering" as you call it).

Hahah I'm actually laughing. That's a new take. Ozempic is ROBBING fat people of an opportunity for growth and new heights of self-confidence! Their weight loss won't be as meaningful if they don't suffer--oops, I mean "work hard" for it!

Man, the cope is real.

You're either a troll, or a truly broken person projecting a mirror of yourself. Good luck. I hope you find peace and contentment in whatever.

Yeah, no. I’m not letting you say that to people like me and not calling it out for what it is, BS. That after years or decades or a lifetime of struggle with our weight and the mental, emotional, social, and physical burden of obesity, our weight loss is not as beneficial as those who had to put in more effort. As if we somehow sold ourselves short because we were not able to achieve weight loss without it. PP has every right to be proud of the effort they put in, but their journey is not any more valuable than mine.

It’s like telling a formerly homeless person that the roof over their head doesn’t provide them as many benefits as their neighbor who had to work three jobs to afford the security deposit. The growth they missed out on because they didn’t work hard! The self-confidence! What utter nonsense.