Ralph Yarl: Sweet, young teen shot trying to pick up siblings

Anonymous
Have you seen a picture of the shooter? He does not look like he's all there. Jesus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How much does anyone want to bet that the shooter's main form of "news" is Fox News with its constant fear porn programming about "urban" (read black) crime in our cities and brown people coming over our border? It is a form of propaganda, and something needs to be done about it. Creating an alternate reality where peoples' home or person could at any moment be attacked and where guns are needed personal protection is very dangerous and leads to situations such as these.

I agree. I’ve also noticed right-wing media’s doom and gloom propaganda. They’re trying to blame increased crime on Biden/Dems and show them as being “soft on crime.”
Anonymous
The sad thing is America has always been a place where Black people could be killed without consequences or punishment. The difference is that today we have cell phones, cameras, social media, instant sharing of news/photos/messages. Thanks to technology, these racist scumbags can’t hide anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was exactly the point of flooding this country with guns under the guise of “freedom”

Flooding a country with so many guns creates this kind of chaos, paranoia, and terror that inevitably leads to a power vacuum to be filled by the worst types of individuals and groups.


Yes 100%. Guns change how people react to situations. The police just shot and killed an innocent man when they knocked on the wrong door. In that case, the man did have a gun. But just the possibility and likelihood that someone has a gun causes people to overreact. People are rightfully worried that anyone could have a gun, so they will react out of proportion to situations and opt for violence. How many people were killed because the cops “thought they had a gun” but in fact they didn’t? If people didn’t have access to guns, things wouldn’t escalate so fast. For police and for regular citizens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have you seen a picture of the shooter? He does not look like he's all there. Jesus.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ugh...looks like a similar incident happened over the weekend in upstate NY. A car with four young people looking for a friend's home went up the wrong driveway, and the homeowner came out and fired two shots--one killed a young woman in the car. The shooter (older guy) and the victim (young woman) were white in this case. But still... These guys with guns act like they're living out on a remote homestead in the 1800s Wild West.

https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/20-year-old-woman-killed-in-shooting-hebron-man-charged-with-murder-kaylin-gillis-kevin-monahan-salem


JFC. Knocking on the wrong door or pulling into the wrong driveway shouldn’t warrant a death (or close to it) sentence. Obviously our lax gun laws have empowered nut jobs to freely pull the trigger. We need to highly publicize these a-holes going to prison so their peers feel less inclined to live out their vigilante cosplay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy isn't going to serve any time. He's gonna play the old, limited capacity card and people there are going to believe it.

And just because he's home recovering, doesn't mean that he doesn't have significant injuries which may require lengthy rehabilitation, possible lifetime pain and keep him from playing his instrument. There's a ton of real estate between critical condition and just fine.


Was he ever actually in critical condition? I read that he got up and walked to several houses seeking help after getting shot. I suspect the bullets clipped him only. Which is a relief.


He apparently collapsed in front of the house across the street where we went seeking help, according to the resident there who called 911. I imagine adrenaline kept him moving for a bit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ugh...looks like a similar incident happened over the weekend in upstate NY. A car with four young people looking for a friend's home went up the wrong driveway, and the homeowner came out and fired two shots--one killed a young woman in the car. The shooter (older guy) and the victim (young woman) were white in this case. But still... These guys with guns act like they're living out on a remote homestead in the 1800s Wild West.

https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/20-year-old-woman-killed-in-shooting-hebron-man-charged-with-murder-kaylin-gillis-kevin-monahan-salem


They need to start throwing the book at these people. They were in his driveway. Didn’t even ring the bell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was exactly the point of flooding this country with guns under the guise of “freedom”

Flooding a country with so many guns creates this kind of chaos, paranoia, and terror that inevitably leads to a power vacuum to be filled by the worst types of individuals and groups.


Yes 100%. Guns change how people react to situations. The police just shot and killed an innocent man when they knocked on the wrong door. In that case, the man did have a gun. But just the possibility and likelihood that someone has a gun causes people to overreact. People are rightfully worried that anyone could have a gun, so they will react out of proportion to situations and opt for violence. How many people were killed because the cops “thought they had a gun” but in fact they didn’t? If people didn’t have access to guns, things wouldn’t escalate so fast. For police and for regular citizens.


Yes, it’s the guns. It’s always the guns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have you seen a picture of the shooter? He does not look like he's all there. Jesus.


And this is exactly why he should not have had access to guns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy isn't going to serve any time. He's gonna play the old, limited capacity card and people there are going to believe it.

And just because he's home recovering, doesn't mean that he doesn't have significant injuries which may require lengthy rehabilitation, possible lifetime pain and keep him from playing his instrument. There's a ton of real estate between critical condition and just fine.


Was he ever actually in critical condition? I read that he got up and walked to several houses seeking help after getting shot. I suspect the bullets clipped him only. Which is a relief.


He apparently collapsed in front of the house across the street where we went seeking help, according to the resident there who called 911. I imagine adrenaline kept him moving for a bit.


He was shot 2x through the door Sobieski imagine the door absorbed most of the impact and Ralph was "only" grazed by the 2 bullets. Still traumatic and painful, but at least it wasn't point blank
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy isn't going to serve any time. He's gonna play the old, limited capacity card and people there are going to believe it.

And just because he's home recovering, doesn't mean that he doesn't have significant injuries which may require lengthy rehabilitation, possible lifetime pain and keep him from playing his instrument. There's a ton of real estate between critical condition and just fine.


Was he ever actually in critical condition? I read that he got up and walked to several houses seeking help after getting shot. I suspect the bullets clipped him only. Which is a relief.


Yes, the media noted he was initially in critical condition. Here is just one source that says that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ralph-yarl-released-hospital-kansas-city-shooting-b2321398.html


This is now repeated times I have seen comments like this. This clearly good person is in a hospital and what even is the difference--the person who shot him did not try to just 'graze him' and the fact that he had to keep knocking on doors? is a testament to human adrenalin. Full stop.
My concern is how more racism and so many 'isms' are dividing us and HOW do those of us on this forum actually do something besides saying, get out and vote.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How much does anyone want to bet that the shooter's main form of "news" is Fox News with its constant fear porn programming about "urban" (read black) crime in our cities and brown people coming over our border? It is a form of propaganda, and something needs to be done about it. Creating an alternate reality where peoples' home or person could at any moment be attacked and where guns are needed personal protection is very dangerous and leads to situations such as these.


It is. It's so dangerous. I know several folks in their 80s, whom I love to death, who've been brainwashed especially in recent years by Fox news running all day in their home and are terrified of people of color. It's heartbreaking and dangerous. Everyone needs to turn their tvs off, regardless of political affiliation. It's too much extremism all the time and not healthy for anyone at a minimum, life threatening at worst.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is America has always been a place where Black people could be killed without consequences or punishment. The difference is that today we have cell phones, cameras, social media, instant sharing of news/photos/messages. Thanks to technology, these racist scumbags can’t hide anymore.


It’s worse now than it’s ever been before here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is America has always been a place where Black people could be killed without consequences or punishment. The difference is that today we have cell phones, cameras, social media, instant sharing of news/photos/messages. Thanks to technology, these racist scumbags can’t hide anymore.


It’s worse now than it’s ever been before here.


No, we just SEE it now. The phones have changed everything.

The guns have changed things, too. Story after story after story of an unhinged jerk with a gun shooting someone or many someones just going about their daily lives. It's sick.
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