I regret having kids. I don't like being a mom. And it's affecting my marriage

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoy being a mother but certainly do not like some of the things you describe. Playing kid board games is painful. Pretend play is painful. I like to take the kids to museums and things like that. I like to cook with them. I enjoy certain volunteering at the school but loathe other things. I think the difference is that because I think I enjoy motherhood and that I am a decent mother, I do not feel guilty about the stuff I do not do. Find a few things you enjoy doing with your kids. Forget the rest. Good mothers come in all sorts of actions. One does not need to martyr her life to be a good mother.

You know that very, very few adults actually enjoy playing Candyland or dolls, right? It’s not meant to entertain us or be fun for us. We do it for our kids.

It is unnecessary. My grandparents did not play with their kids nor were they expected to. Kids can play with other kids. Parents don’t need to do it. My parents did not either.

This.

It depends on the definition of "unnecessary." Yes, it's true that you can raise your kids without "playing with them" and still end up with great kids who become great adults. On the other hand, based on the people I know (as well as my own family and my spouse's family) there does seem to be a correlation between being a truly giving and extending parent and having "nicer," more giving, less self-centered and more empathetic offspring. I mean, let's face it -- there are a lot of nasty, career-obsessed, and super competitive women on DCUM who really do consider themselves to be excellent mothers simply because they have the money to throw at every problem or issue. When it comes to parenting, time is more important than money.

I'm not saying women should become martyrs to motherhood. What I am saying is that the pendulum appears to have swung way too far in the opposite direction for many professional women. At least the ones on here who, instead of advising the OP on how to improve her situation, have instead seized yet another opportunity through this thread to bash actively involved mothers and defend their own choices as somehow better for the kids.

My mom and my grandmother did not play with children.
They were stay at home moms.
Idea that a parent is expected to play with their children regardless of their working status is relatively new. Children are supposed to play with their peers—not their parents.

Np here. Just because your parents and grandparents did something doesn't make it right or an absolute.
I'm likely your age and my parents and grandparents played with us. I have great memories of those times. My siblings, cousins and I also managed to play with our peers as well.

[Anonymous]

You don't have to volunteer.
You can outsource driving, though I would encourage you to do some because drive time is often older kids let you into their world.
I also think you should spend some time doing things that they like because for many people that's their love language.

I'm not into manicured nails but I do it with my daughter because I know it means a lot to her.

And yes make time for just you or just you and your husband

[Anonymous]

I want to run away every day of my life. I toy with the idea of bringing the baby with me because I just love her so much but I know I wouldn't be able to run away fully with her. It's the baby that keeps me here. I'm just scared I won't have anything to keep me here when she's not a baby anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Stuff like this is why people hate and judge childfree people. I am also CF yet I can recognize how parenting is very difficult and it might not go as one expects before they have kids- how can you understand what parenting will truly entail? Also, OP's husband is not supportive and it seems like she may have more of a husband problem than a parenting problem. Regardless- this was a rude and unnecessary comment.

Don't post if you can't take the heat. Of course, there's going to be schadenfreude.

[Anonymous]

I think everyone feels like that sometimes. Try not to think of it in terms of "being a mom" being what you hate...you hate PTA nonsense, you hate board games, you hate not having time to yourself. You don't have getting hugs from your kids, watching them play, hearing the funny things they say...right?

Focus on addressing what you hate...drop the volunteering, drop the boardgames, work with your husband to figure out how to have regular getaways and date nights. This is a season of your life, you will be an empty nester in a decade or so and this will just be a memory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Stuff like this is why people hate and judge childfree people. I am also CF yet I can recognize how parenting is very difficult and it might not go as one expects before they have kids- how can you understand what parenting will truly entail? Also, OP's husband is not supportive and it seems like she may have more of a husband problem than a parenting problem. Regardless- this was a rude and unnecessary comment.

Don't post if you can't take the heat. Of course, there's going to be schadenfreude.

DP. Only pathetic people who aren’t satisfied with their life choices or life circumstances experience schadenfreude over a complete stranger who has never caused you any harm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Yes, it is so hilarious when people make a decision that seems right for them at the time but later realize things unfolded differently than they expected and come to regret it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Stuff like this is why people hate and judge childfree people. I am also CF yet I can recognize how parenting is very difficult and it might not go as one expects before they have kids- how can you understand what parenting will truly entail? Also, OP's husband is not supportive and it seems like she may have more of a husband problem than a parenting problem. Regardless- this was a rude and unnecessary comment.

Don't post if you can't take the heat. Of course, there's going to be schadenfreude.

The CFBC women who constantly feel the need to dunk on struggling parents are insecure about their decision to miss out on one of the most meaningful human experiences

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoy being a mother but certainly do not like some of the things you describe. Playing kid board games is painful. Pretend play is painful. I like to take the kids to museums and things like that. I like to cook with them. I enjoy certain volunteering at the school but loathe other things. I think the difference is that because I think I enjoy motherhood and that I am a decent mother, I do not feel guilty about the stuff I do not do. Find a few things you enjoy doing with your kids. Forget the rest. Good mothers come in all sorts of actions. One does not need to martyr her life to be a good mother.

You know that very, very few adults actually enjoy playing Candyland or dolls, right? It’s not meant to entertain us or be fun for us. We do it for our kids.

It is unnecessary. My grandparents did not play with their kids nor were they expected to. Kids can play with other kids. Parents don’t need to do it. My parents did not either.

This.

It depends on the definition of "unnecessary." Yes, it's true that you can raise your kids without "playing with them" and still end up with great kids who become great adults. On the other hand, based on the people I know (as well as my own family and my spouse's family) there does seem to be a correlation between being a truly giving and extending parent and having "nicer," more giving, less self-centered and more empathetic offspring. I mean, let's face it -- there are a lot of nasty, career-obsessed, and super competitive women on DCUM who really do consider themselves to be excellent mothers simply because they have the money to throw at every problem or issue. When it comes to parenting, time is more important than money.

I'm not saying women should become martyrs to motherhood. What I am saying is that the pendulum appears to have swung way too far in the opposite direction for many professional women. At least the ones on here who, instead of advising the OP on how to improve her situation, have instead seized yet another opportunity through this thread to bash actively involved mothers and defend their own choices as somehow better for the kids.

My mom and my grandmother did not play with children.
They were stay at home moms.
Idea that a parent is expected to play with their children regardless of their working status is relatively new. Children are supposed to play with their peers—not their parents.

Np here. Just because your parents and grandparents did something doesn't make it right or an absolute.
I'm likely your age and my parents and grandparents played with us. I have great memories of those times. My siblings, cousins and I also managed to play with our peers as well.

Good for you. It is still largely an anomaly for adults to be playing with children in earlier generations. That is what siblings were for. Parenting is much more child-centric generally than it used to be.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the update OP.

I agree you have a husband problem, and not truly a regret having kids issue.

You are a good mom, and you like your kids. What you don't like is your husband pushing you to be a different kind of mom. Stand your ground. He has a vision of what an idyllic mother acts like, and it sounds like it's simply not rooted in reality.

PTA and board games, or whatever other nonsense he is spouting are not parenting hurdles that you need to worry about. Give yourself grace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Yes, it is so hilarious when people make a decision that seems right for them at the time but later realize things unfolded differently than they expected and come to regret it

Not the kids fault. Suck it up buttercup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Stuff like this is why people hate and judge childfree people. I am also CF yet I can recognize how parenting is very difficult and it might not go as one expects before they have kids- how can you understand what parenting will truly entail? Also, OP's husband is not supportive and it seems like she may have more of a husband problem than a parenting problem. Regardless- this was a rude and unnecessary comment.

Don't post if you can't take the heat. Of course, there's going to be schadenfreude.

The CFBC women who constantly feel the need to dunk on struggling parents are insecure about their decision to miss out on one of the most meaningful human experiences

Eh, parking yourself on a forum for parents all day posting comments that show an embarrassing lack of maturity or intellectual wherewithal for an adult woman is more of a self-own than a dunk.

[Anonymous]

OP---concentrate on finding one activity that you really like doing with each child and then one activity that you can all do relatively peacefully together. Quality, not quantity. I work a demanding job and decided early on that I was not going to be room mother, PTA president or anything else. I did make it a point to volunteer to be a chaperone one field trip a year per kid.

And understand that not all parents are good at all stages of parenting. Some parents are great with babies and toddlers while some are much better with teens and young adults.

And make sure that your DH is pulling his weight with the entirety of family management. When you are overseeing the groceries, the cooking, the cleaning, the vacation planning, the medical/dental appointments, the constant buying of clothes/shoes for growing kids---AND working full time-then it is easy to be resentful.

[Anonymous]

The kids probably regret having you as a mom. Suck it up. Child-rearing isn't about you and your wants/needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you for all of the replies. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, for some reason I can't access DCUM unless I'm on a computer/laptop.

As for why I had a second child....well, I was on leave with my first for many years. I loved that time with my oldest. I did so many things with them and really embraced parenting. Then, I went back part time and had a miscarriage. That experience alone was really hard but it made me feel sad that my oldest wouldn't have a sibling. So had a second but I transitioned to full time work after they were born.

These feelings of regret (perhaps too harsh a word) are relatively new. I do think pandemic parenting was super hard on me. I barely could keep my head above water with work and dealing with a pre-reader, sitting for all of their zoom sessions made me feel crazy. And interestingly, DH was (and still is) home 24/7. All of the sudden, all of the parenting things that I did (activities, shuttling the kids around, play dates, playing) were now being kind of picked apart by DH. He has ever the ready criticism on how things could be different or how I should have scheduled things differently. So I think I started to resent it and took a back seat. Let him figure it out for a while.

Now with no return to the office for him, he has firmly slid into the role of "all things parenting" and volunteers A LOT for various things for the kids. I still do some stuff but not as much anymore. I do try to incorporate the kids in activities I enjoy - cooking, hiking, walking, crafts. But he spends a lot of time at their school and insists they have very full schedules of activities (I prefer them to be less scheduled).

All of this is to say that DH sees what he does for the kids and thinks I need to do the same. I don't have the same flexible schedule as he does. I don't WANT to organize projects for their classes. I still manage to get to their schools for some stuff but apparently, it's not enough.

Of course I haven't said this to DH or the kids. I have told DH that it isn't fair for him to characterize my time with the kids as "not enough". I don't know if he heard that message though.

As a CFBC woman, I find women who deliberately choose to have children and then complain about them to be truly hilarious.

Yes, it is so hilarious when people make a decision that seems right for them at the time but later realize things unfolded differently than they expected and come to regret it

I doubt you have any idea just how self centered you are