NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt is a nurse and she said that most nurses do this on a patient they don't like. Or if you've ever had a doctor or nurse repeatedly push on an area that hurts and ask "does this hurt?" they are doing it on purpose.

Your aunt might do this, but most nurses and doctors don't. We may not bend over backwards for you, if you're a jerk, but we're not deliberately causing patients pain. Why would we make a difficulty patient even more pissed off or whiny? It's counterproductive.

Your aunt is 1) unprofessional and 2) projecting.

+1 that’s not a thing normal healthcare professionals do or tolerate.

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If she has any sense, she’ll come out as “transgender” so she can start over with a new name, birth certificate, social security card, and everything. PLUS she’ll get to the turn the tables on anyone who recognizes her by calling them “transphobic” for not respecting her “new identity.” Stunning and brave.

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I have had my veins missed by “professionals” like that so many times and for what?! Nothing!
Maybe they should be thinking less about pronouns and more about their jobs

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What a psychopath. Not to mention, I really wouldn’t want some one lacking an understanding of basic biology treating me. Enough with this idiocy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are doctors/med students wearing pronoun pins, anyway? Is it part of a class on virtue signaling?

In an ER in another state, I noticed one tech or nurse has a HUGE sign that said "she/her." This staff person looked trans and the mandatory masking and scrubs further obscured any attempts at looking feminine. I can understand why she wore the sign.

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt is a nurse and she said that most nurses do this on a patient they don't like. Or if you've ever had a doctor or nurse repeatedly push on an area that hurts and ask "does this hurt?" they are doing it on purpose.

Your aunt might do this, but most nurses and doctors don't. We may not bend over backwards for you, if you're a jerk, but we're not deliberately causing patients pain. Why would we make a difficulty patient even more pissed off or whiny? It's counterproductive.

Your aunt is 1) unprofessional and 2) projecting.

+1 that’s not a thing normal healthcare professionals do or tolerate.

+1. When I have a client this aggro, I assume mental health issue and engage less, not more. I don't believe this was a deliberate IV access miss.

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has publicly stated that the student is “no longer involved in patient care activities “ so they clearly think it was wrong behavior as well.

So hope this is true. She really should be kicked out of the program and not allowed to graduate.

CaNcEl cULtuRe

More like "actions have consequences" culture.

Seems like overkill to destroy her career over a dumb tweet.

It wasn't the tweet sweetheart. It was that she intentionally caused harm and potential medical damage to someone she was supposed to be treating. Do you not understand that?

She said nothing of the sort, sweetheart. Your purported “reading between the lines” is nothing but pointless conjecture. Do you not understand that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel a little sorry for her tbh. What she did was wrong, but hopefully she can learn from this.

She deliberately hurt a patient and she should be expelled and never be allowed to work in any field of medicine.

No, she didn’t. Literacy is truly dead in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only this past Thanksgiving that I explained the concept of why people are stating pronouns to my dad, who is 74 and still works. I was explaining why people put their pronouns in their email signatures. He understood but wasn't sure he was comfortable doing that.

My mother, who was an abnormal psychology major, still thinks transgender people are a touch mentally ill.

Yeah, that is why having everyone put their pronouns on their name badges is part of making it normal, and why bigoted people will point and laugh at them (go back and read what OP posted)--because they are never comfortable accepting anyone not in the majority/dominant group and some hope that if they bully people who practice inclusion, they can make it go away.

You can call it "conservative values" or "traditional values" or whatever you want, but the literal definition of bigotry is "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." And a lot of people, when they realize that their resistance to these changes derives from bigotry, will actually change their minds.

This is the same narrow point of view probably shared by this medical student. Assuming everyone is bigoted for holding a different point of view. She was so intolerant and hateful she took pleasure in the fact that her patient was stuck twice. It probably never occurred to her that maybe the patient didn’t know anything about displaying pronouns and his comment was out of confusion because clearly she’s a woman.

Please, most people can tell the difference between confusion and mocking.

And what exactly is the different point of view here? Showing your pronouns means "I want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I want to help people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." Seems like the opposite of that is "I do not want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I don't care about making people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." That's not a difference of opinion like some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.

Not to everyone. For example, to me, "showing your pronouns" means "I'm a woke virtue-signaler with zero backbone and ability to think for myself."

And what you just posted means “I’m a Right Wing moron stuck in the past.”

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Anonymous wrote:She is a student. Looks like an effective lesson that will serve her well in her future career. Everyone makes mistakes.

She graduated from UVA in 2017, so has to be about 26. That is not a child, particularly if she is going into medicine.

Oh, this makes me mad that she graduated from my school. I absolutely HATE it when jerks like her are associated with my school. UVA needs to do a better job vetting applicants.

You think UVA should have better vetted her about a tweet that came several years later? Mmmkay.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel a little sorry for her tbh. What she did was wrong, but hopefully she can learn from this.

She deliberately hurt a patient and she should be expelled and never be allowed to work in any field of medicine.

First, do no harm.

It sounds like this medical student is allowing her personal bias to influence her treatment of patients. That's not only wrong, it's dangerous. Does anyone really want to be walking on eggshells around this future physician, hoping not to set them off for any number of reasons?

This medical student needs to have a psychological assessment, because this was a very serious incident. It's not funny that she stuck her patient twice, on purpose. Her cavalier attitude is not funny either. It's dangerous. Be honest - would ANY of you want to have this person as your physician?

+1 I certainly wouldn’t want her as a physician. I agree she needs a psychological evaluation because she is not mentally well.

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Anonymous wrote:She is a student. Looks like an effective lesson that will serve her well in her future career. Everyone makes mistakes.

She graduated from UVA in 2017, so has to be about 26. That is not a child, particularly if she is going into medicine.

Oh, this makes me mad that she graduated from my school. I absolutely HATE it when jerks like her are associated with my school. UVA needs to do a better job vetting applicants.

You think UVA should have better vetted her about a tweet that came several years later? Mmmkay.

Maybe UVA could instill some ethics. You know, deontology instead teleology.

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She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

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Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

So the tweeting Med student is irredeemable, but the general public can learn and grow?
I disagree. The Med student was stupid and unprofessional to post something like this. It’s a learning experience, especially for fellow students. I would not define this person by one tweet.
I’ll add, although I’m liberal, I have had to grow and learn from my original biased “gay women look like this, and they’re kind of ‘other,’ and gay men look like that, and people who are transgender are just weird and I’ll probably never run into one because they’re so rare.”
Thank God I’m not stuck on stupid.