NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

Her own tweet certainly implies she missed on purpose and most people who read her tweet had the same impression.. “I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice.” Either way she took pleasure in the fact he had to be stuck twice which is disgusting. If this snowflake can’t handle comments about something as silly as a pin then she isn’t cut out for the medical field.

[Anonymous]

She/ her needs to be disciplined by the school. As in with holding degree for awhile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

So the tweeting Med student is irredeemable, but the general public can learn and grow?
I disagree. The Med student was stupid and unprofessional to post something like this. It’s a learning experience, especially for fellow students. I would not define this person by one tweet.
I’ll add, although I’m liberal, I have had to grow and learn from my original biased “gay women look like this, and they’re kind of ‘other,’ and gay men look like that, and people who are transgender are just weird and I’ll probably never run into one because they’re so rare.”
Thank God I’m not stuck on stupid.

Physicians are not the general public and are held to a much higher standard.

The fact that this girl cannot abide by the very basic tenet of her profession, which is to do no harm first, sends a clear message that she should not be a doctor at all. Absolutely without question revoke an ability of her to get license. Injuring patients on purpose is the absolutely WORST thing you could do as a physician or a physician in training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

Tell me that you've never even read the Hippocratic Oath without telling me you've never read the Hippocratic Oath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

So the tweeting Med student is irredeemable, but the general public can learn and grow?
I disagree. The Med student was stupid and unprofessional to post something like this. It’s a learning experience, especially for fellow students. I would not define this person by one tweet.
I’ll add, although I’m liberal, I have had to grow and learn from my original biased “gay women look like this, and they’re kind of ‘other,’ and gay men look like that, and people who are transgender are just weird and I’ll probably never run into one because they’re so rare.”
Thank God I’m not stuck on stupid.

Physicians are not the general public and are held to a much higher standard.

The fact that this girl cannot abide by the very basic tenet of her profession, which is to do no harm first, sends a clear message that she should not be a doctor at all. Absolutely without question revoke an ability of her to get license. Injuring patients on purpose is the absolutely WORST thing you could do as a physician or a physician in training.

Oh, come on. Think for just a minute.

Put this case aside and think about the silliness you are hanging your hat on here. There is no modern tenet in medicine that you cannot first do harm. MUCH of medicine is doing harm for benefit -- chemotherapy, surgery, side effects of needed medication. That's not "the very basic tenet" -- and also, it never was in the Hippocratic Oath, which (BTW) is not an oath most students take. There are other modern versions.

Get out of the Middle Ages with your muddled thinking.

[Anonymous]

As I understand it, WF Medical School has put her on a "leave of absence." Does anyone know what that really means?

[Anonymous]

I think it's right to discipline her for the tweet, but it's frustrating that so many doctors are providing trans individuals poor care just because they are biased and they get away with it.

You don't give a patient poor medical care (or insinuate that you are) just because you don't like the patient or disagree with what the patient is doing with their lives. The standard of care in the medical profession is gender affirming and lots of doctors and nurses know this and just do what they want anyway. That's way worse than poking somebody twice on a blood draw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

Her own tweet certainly implies she missed on purpose and most people who read her tweet had the same impression.. “I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice.” Either way she took pleasure in the fact he had to be stuck twice which is disgusting. If this snowflake can’t handle comments about something as silly as a pin then she isn’t cut out for the medical field.

No, she didn’t imply that she did it on purpose.

Of course, the trash people assume that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I understand it, WF Medical School has put her on a "leave of absence." Does anyone know what that really means?

It is pure BS. It’s not official disciplinary / code of conduct action. Their statements sound like they’re lying and covering for her and just hoping this blows over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I understand it, WF Medical School has put her on a "leave of absence." Does anyone know what that really means?

It is pure BS. It’s not official disciplinary / code of conduct action. Their statements sound like they’re lying and covering for her and just hoping this blows over.

I think it means she's under review.

She left herself enough wiggle room that she'll likely get off with a reprimand. She didn't say she stuck him on purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

Her own tweet certainly implies she missed on purpose and most people who read her tweet had the same impression.. “I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice.” Either way she took pleasure in the fact he had to be stuck twice which is disgusting. If this snowflake can’t handle comments about something as silly as a pin then she isn’t cut out for the medical field.

No, she didn’t imply that she did it on purpose.

Of course, the trash people assume that.

She either implied that she did it on purpose, or she implied that she is a klutz who is incapable of drawing blood, and thus in over her head in medical school. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

Her own tweet certainly implies she missed on purpose and most people who read her tweet had the same impression.. “I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice.” Either way she took pleasure in the fact he had to be stuck twice which is disgusting. If this snowflake can’t handle comments about something as silly as a pin then she isn’t cut out for the medical field.

No, she didn’t imply that she did it on purpose.

Of course, the trash people assume that.

She either implied that she did it on purpose, or she implied that she is a klutz who is incapable of drawing blood, and thus in over her head in medical school. Which is it?

"Tell me you've never been trained to do a blood draw without telling me you've never been through the training to do a blood draw."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should IMMEDIATELY be kicked out of med school and/or barred from ever getting a medical license. Period.

If she cannot handle political jabs, she has absolutely ZERO personal qualities/traits to handle being a physicians. Holy crap, injuring people on purpose because they might be a difficult patient? Absolutely insane there is anything to discuss. Kick her out now.

Newsflash: you will encounter many, many, maaaaaany nasty people in the medical field. The entire basis of the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. She violated that oath.

FFS she did not injure on purpose.

OP lied in the title of this thread.

Her own tweet certainly implies she missed on purpose and most people who read her tweet had the same impression.. “I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice.” Either way she took pleasure in the fact he had to be stuck twice which is disgusting. If this snowflake can’t handle comments about something as silly as a pin then she isn’t cut out for the medical field.

No, she didn’t imply that she did it on purpose.

Of course, the trash people assume that.

Or maybe you hope it was really an accident because otherwise it makes this pronoun wearing social justice warrior look crazy. Once again you don’t know whether it was on purpose or an accident but many people assumed it was on purpose because of her own tweet. Otherwise the story wouldn’t have gone viral. But either way she’s sick in the head and unfit for the medical field for gleefully tweeting about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I understand it, WF Medical School has put her on a "leave of absence." Does anyone know what that really means?

It usually means “she wants to spend more time with her family.”

[Anonymous]

Since it keep coming up in this thread, this is the actual (translated) original Hippocratic oath:

The Classic Hippocratic Oath

"I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment.

I will reverence my master who taught me the art. Equally with my parents, will I allow him things necessary for his support, and will consider his sons as brothers. I will teach them my art without reward or agreement; and I will impart all my acquirement, instructions, and whatever I know, to my master's children, as to my own; and likewise to all my pupils, who shall bind and tie themselves by a professional oath, but to none else.

With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for them the best diet, according to my judgment and means; and I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage.
Nor shall any man's entreaty prevail upon me to administer poison to anyone; neither will I counsel any man to do so. Moreover, I will give no sort of medicine to any pregnant woman, with a view to destroy the child.

Further, I will comport myself and use my knowledge in a godly manner.

I will not cut for the stone, but will commit that affair entirely to the surgeons.

Whatsoever house I may enter, my visit shall be for the convenience and advantage of the patient; and I will willingly refrain from doing any injury or wrong from falsehood, and (in an especial manner) from acts of an amorous nature, whatever may be the rank of those who it may be my duty to cure, whether mistress or servant, bond or free.

Whatever, in the course of my practice, I may see or hear (even when not invited), whatever I may happen to obtain knowledge of, if it be not proper to repeat it, I will keep sacred and secret within my own breast.

If I faithfully observe this oath, may I thrive and prosper in my fortune and profession, and live in the estimation of posterity; or on breach thereof, may the reverse be my fate!"

https://doctors.practo.com/the-hippocratic-oath-the-original-and-revised-version/

You can see it includes a pledge to leaving the cutting out of gallstones and kidney stones to "surgeons," which was a reference to barbers. (Yes, barbers.) Physicians at the time had no training with cutting edge blades, but the barbers did.

Also, there is a pledge to train the sons of the man who trained you for free.

I think you can see why this has been heavily modified to update. It should not be venerated or polished like a tombstone.