NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

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Anonymous wrote:DW treats trumpers on a regular basis. You have to treat patients fairly and to the best of your ability despite your own personal views. This doctor was in the wrong.

She treated the patient just fine.

She just shouldn’t have tweeted about it.

Or she should have found DCUM and posted anonymously. (She could’ve done that on SDN too). It seems really stupid to put this out there under your own name, bio, and photo.

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Anonymous wrote:DW treats trumpers on a regular basis. You have to treat patients fairly and to the best of your ability despite your own personal views. This doctor was in the wrong.

She treated the patient just fine.

She just shouldn’t have tweeted about it.

Or she should have found DCUM and posted anonymously. (She could’ve done that on SDN too). It seems really stupid to put this out there under your own name, bio, and photo.

Yes, the tweet was the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has publicly stated that the student is “no longer involved in patient care activities “ so they clearly think it was wrong behavior as well.

So hope this is true. She really should be kicked out of the program and not allowed to graduate.

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More like "actions have consequences" culture.

Seems like overkill to destroy her career over a dumb tweet.

It wasn't the tweet sweetheart. It was that she intentionally caused harm and potential medical damage to someone she was supposed to be treating. Do you not understand that?

It was the tweet, asswipe.

She didn’t intentionally hurt the patient.

Why is she even tweeting about it in the first place? Twitter should ban her account.

Ban her? LOL.

The tweet will only hurt her - no one else. It shows poor judgement.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only this past Thanksgiving that I explained the concept of why people are stating pronouns to my dad, who is 74 and still works. I was explaining why people put their pronouns in their email signatures. He understood but wasn't sure he was comfortable doing that.

My mother, who was an abnormal psychology major, still thinks transgender people are a touch mentally ill.

Yeah, that is why having everyone put their pronouns on their name badges is part of making it normal, and why bigoted people will point and laugh at them (go back and read what OP posted)--because they are never comfortable accepting anyone not in the majority/dominant group and some hope that if they bully people who practice inclusion, they can make it go away.

You can call it "conservative values" or "traditional values" or whatever you want, but the literal definition of bigotry is "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." And a lot of people, when they realize that their resistance to these changes derives from bigotry, will actually change their minds.

This is the same narrow point of view probably shared by this medical student. Assuming everyone is bigoted for holding a different point of view. She was so intolerant and hateful she took pleasure in the fact that her patient was stuck twice. It probably never occurred to her that maybe the patient didn’t know anything about displaying pronouns and his comment was out of confusion because clearly she’s a woman.

Please, most people can tell the difference between confusion and mocking.

And what exactly is the different point of view here? Showing your pronouns means "I want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I want to help people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." Seems like the opposite of that is "I do not want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I don't care about making people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." That's not a difference of opinion like some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.

Not to everyone. For example, to me, "showing your pronouns" means "I'm a woke virtue-signaler with zero backbone and ability to think for myself."

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has publicly stated that the student is “no longer involved in patient care activities “ so they clearly think it was wrong behavior as well.

So hope this is true. She really should be kicked out of the program and not allowed to graduate.

CaNcEl cULtuRe

More like "actions have consequences" culture.

Seems like overkill to destroy her career over a dumb tweet.

It wasn't the tweet sweetheart. It was that she intentionally caused harm and potential medical damage to someone she was supposed to be treating. Do you not understand that?

It was the tweet, asswipe.

She didn’t intentionally hurt the patient.

Why is she even tweeting about it in the first place? Twitter should ban her account.

Ban her? LOL.

The tweet will only hurt her - no one else. It shows poor judgement.

She shouldn’t be tweeting about patients. Very unprofessional. And isn’t their motto “Do no harm.”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is a student. Looks like an effective lesson that will serve her well in her future career. Everyone makes mistakes.

She graduated from UVA in 2017, so has to be about 26. That is not a child, particularly if she is going into medicine.

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Anonymous wrote:She is a student. Looks like an effective lesson that will serve her well in her future career. Everyone makes mistakes.

She graduated from UVA in 2017, so has to be about 26. That is not a child, particularly if she is going into medicine.

Oh, this makes me mad that she graduated from my school. I absolutely HATE it when jerks like her are associated with my school. UVA needs to do a better job vetting applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only this past Thanksgiving that I explained the concept of why people are stating pronouns to my dad, who is 74 and still works. I was explaining why people put their pronouns in their email signatures. He understood but wasn't sure he was comfortable doing that.

My mother, who was an abnormal psychology major, still thinks transgender people are a touch mentally ill.

Yeah, that is why having everyone put their pronouns on their name badges is part of making it normal, and why bigoted people will point and laugh at them (go back and read what OP posted)--because they are never comfortable accepting anyone not in the majority/dominant group and some hope that if they bully people who practice inclusion, they can make it go away.

You can call it "conservative values" or "traditional values" or whatever you want, but the literal definition of bigotry is "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." And a lot of people, when they realize that their resistance to these changes derives from bigotry, will actually change their minds.

This is the same narrow point of view probably shared by this medical student. Assuming everyone is bigoted for holding a different point of view. She was so intolerant and hateful she took pleasure in the fact that her patient was stuck twice. It probably never occurred to her that maybe the patient didn’t know anything about displaying pronouns and his comment was out of confusion because clearly she’s a woman.

Please, most people can tell the difference between confusion and mocking.

And what exactly is the different point of view here? Showing your pronouns means "I want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I want to help people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." Seems like the opposite of that is "I do not want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I don't care about making people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." That's not a difference of opinion like some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.

Not to everyone. For example, to me, "showing your pronouns" means "I'm a woke virtue-signaler with zero backbone and ability to think for myself."

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I read things like this and all I can picture are the women screeching outside Central High School in Little Rock

Same energy

[Anonymous]

My aunt is a nurse and she said that most nurses do this on a patient they don't like. Or if you've ever had a doctor or nurse repeatedly push on an area that hurts and ask "does this hurt?" they are doing it on purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10670003/North-Carolina-med-student-brags-deliberately-injuring-patient-mocked-pronoun-pin.html#article-10670003


"I had a patient I was doing a blood draw on see my pronoun pin and loudly laugh to the staff 'She/Her? Well of course it is! What other pronouns even are there? It?'" K. Del, or Kychelle Del Rosario, a fourth-year medical student at Wake Forest School of Medicine, tweeted.

Med students don't do blood draws. It's a bad, tacky joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My aunt is a nurse and she said that most nurses do this on a patient they don't like. Or if you've ever had a doctor or nurse repeatedly push on an area that hurts and ask "does this hurt?" they are doing it on purpose.

Your aunt might do this, but most nurses and doctors don't. We may not bend over backwards for you, if you're a jerk, but we're not deliberately causing patients pain. Why would we make a difficulty patient even more pissed off or whiny? It's counterproductive.

Your aunt is 1) unprofessional and 2) projecting.

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt is a nurse and she said that most nurses do this on a patient they don't like. Or if you've ever had a doctor or nurse repeatedly push on an area that hurts and ask "does this hurt?" they are doing it on purpose.

Your aunt might do this, but most nurses and doctors don't. We may not bend over backwards for you, if you're a jerk, but we're not deliberately causing patients pain. Why would we make a difficulty patient even more pissed off or whiny? It's counterproductive.

Your aunt is 1) unprofessional and 2) projecting.

+100 I'm a nurse and I have never heard of a fellow nurse or doctor purposely hurting a patient because they were difficult. I'm calling BS on your story and if it is true your aunt has no business being in the medical field.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only this past Thanksgiving that I explained the concept of why people are stating pronouns to my dad, who is 74 and still works. I was explaining why people put their pronouns in their email signatures. He understood but wasn't sure he was comfortable doing that.

My mother, who was an abnormal psychology major, still thinks transgender people are a touch mentally ill.

Yeah, that is why having everyone put their pronouns on their name badges is part of making it normal, and why bigoted people will point and laugh at them (go back and read what OP posted)--because they are never comfortable accepting anyone not in the majority/dominant group and some hope that if they bully people who practice inclusion, they can make it go away.

You can call it "conservative values" or "traditional values" or whatever you want, but the literal definition of bigotry is "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." And a lot of people, when they realize that their resistance to these changes derives from bigotry, will actually change their minds.

This is the same narrow point of view probably shared by this medical student. Assuming everyone is bigoted for holding a different point of view. She was so intolerant and hateful she took pleasure in the fact that her patient was stuck twice. It probably never occurred to her that maybe the patient didn’t know anything about displaying pronouns and his comment was out of confusion because clearly she’s a woman.

Please, most people can tell the difference between confusion and mocking.

And what exactly is the different point of view here? Showing your pronouns means "I want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I want to help people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." Seems like the opposite of that is "I do not want to contribute to an inclusive environment" or "I don't care about making people in the non-dominant group feel welcome." That's not a difference of opinion like some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.

Not to everyone. For example, to me, "showing your pronouns" means "I'm a woke virtue-signaler with zero backbone and ability to think for myself."

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I read things like this and all I can picture are the women screeching outside Central High School in Little Rock

Same energy

Wow. I can see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[b]From her tweet it sounds like she purposely missed the patient's vein so they had to be stuck twice simply because the patient didn't align with her personal views. That is disgusting and I hope she is reprimanded. She is openly admitting to medical malpractice.[b] Medical professionals encounter a variety of patients from different backgrounds with different beliefs but they have an obligation to do no harm and provide the same standard of care. She clearly posted this on Twitter so she could virtue signal and get praised but it had the opposite effect.

Nope. She didn’t say that at all, but good try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She should be kicked out of Med school for that.

LOL. Not going to happen.