Bethesda homicide

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Anonymous wrote:Established in 1973, GAP is a high-intensity, structured group home in Bethesda Maryland, serving males aged 12-20 who have experienced physical and emotional abuse, neglect, sex and human trafficking, or involvement with the juvenile justice system. The youth who are placed through the Maryland Department of Social Services or the Department of Juvenile Services receive individual and group therapy, trauma informed, positive youth development, life skills development, educational services, pro-social recreation activities, and comprehensive health services. In addition, these youth receive 24-hour residential care and supportive services that focus on family permanency and community reintegration.

https://nccf-cares.org/youth/



This is just fancy language for a partial care psychiatric facility for adolescents involved in the criminal justice and foster care systems.


It’s fancy for sexually molested and rape victims.
of course it could be both.


It's primarily a program for adolescent boys from DC who have been involved in the criminal justice system and who have been removed from parental care. While boys can certainly be sexually assaulted, they typically end up at NCCF for other reasons. Many have previously been in foster care, like the 18 year old involved in the murder.


Why import these future felons into MoCo?


the whole point of the program is to help steer them away from becoming felons and give them more educational opportunities.


Appears to be working brilliantly.


Given the program has been around since 1973 and this is the worst thing that has occurred in that time, yes, I expect it does for the most part work as it should. This is a monumental fail and it is heart-breaking on several levels.

Given that the program has been around since 1973 perhaps there is some data on actual outcomes to understand if it works? If not your post is also equally conjecture.


you're welcome to do any research you like into that data and then you can share it with us and give us your full assessment, of the program, this homicide, hell you can even comment on my cooking if you're so inclined.

Honestly incredible. Why don’t you try to do research before making claims if something works or not. I think the data is clear that NCCF is a massive failure and public health danger that should no longer be allowed to continue operating in our community.
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Anonymous wrote:Established in 1973, GAP is a high-intensity, structured group home in Bethesda Maryland, serving males aged 12-20 who have experienced physical and emotional abuse, neglect, sex and human trafficking, or involvement with the juvenile justice system. The youth who are placed through the Maryland Department of Social Services or the Department of Juvenile Services receive individual and group therapy, trauma informed, positive youth development, life skills development, educational services, pro-social recreation activities, and comprehensive health services. In addition, these youth receive 24-hour residential care and supportive services that focus on family permanency and community reintegration.

https://nccf-cares.org/youth/



This is just fancy language for a partial care psychiatric facility for adolescents involved in the criminal justice and foster care systems.


It’s fancy for sexually molested and rape victims.
of course it could be both.


It's primarily a program for adolescent boys from DC who have been involved in the criminal justice system and who have been removed from parental care. While boys can certainly be sexually assaulted, they typically end up at NCCF for other reasons. Many have previously been in foster care, like the 18 year old involved in the murder.


Why import these future felons into MoCo?


the whole point of the program is to help steer them away from becoming felons and give them more educational opportunities.


Appears to be working brilliantly.


Given the program has been around since 1973 and this is the worst thing that has occurred in that time, yes, I expect it does for the most part work as it should. This is a monumental fail and it is heart-breaking on several levels.

Given that the program has been around since 1973 perhaps there is some data on actual outcomes to understand if it works? If not your post is also equally conjecture.


you're welcome to do any research you like into that data and then you can share it with us and give us your full assessment, of the program, this homicide, hell you can even comment on my cooking if you're so inclined.

Honestly incredible. Why don’t you try to do research before making claims if something works or not. I think the data is clear that NCCF is a massive failure and public health danger that should no longer be allowed to continue operating in our community.


Sure. Repeat yourself ad nauseam, but present us with actual facts........?

We can wait.
Anonymous
Let's see, in the past few years, NCCF has had the 3 murderers from last week, as well as Whitman student who assaulted another with a frying pan (who then jumped bail but was caught again).

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/police-id-19-year-old-student-accused-of-attacking-another-student-with-a-frying-pan-at-montgomery-co-school

But overall, the program does help hundreds of people a year who are not criminals and just need the help.
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Fox News?

That’s your research effort?

Oh my…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fox News?

That’s your research effort?

Oh my…


Not that poster, but the local fox channel is very different than the cable news channel.
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Anonymous wrote:Established in 1973, GAP is a high-intensity, structured group home in Bethesda Maryland, serving males aged 12-20 who have experienced physical and emotional abuse, neglect, sex and human trafficking, or involvement with the juvenile justice system. The youth who are placed through the Maryland Department of Social Services or the Department of Juvenile Services receive individual and group therapy, trauma informed, positive youth development, life skills development, educational services, pro-social recreation activities, and comprehensive health services. In addition, these youth receive 24-hour residential care and supportive services that focus on family permanency and community reintegration.

https://nccf-cares.org/youth/



This is just fancy language for a partial care psychiatric facility for adolescents involved in the criminal justice and foster care systems.


It’s fancy for sexually molested and rape victims.
of course it could be both.


It's primarily a program for adolescent boys from DC who have been involved in the criminal justice system and who have been removed from parental care. While boys can certainly be sexually assaulted, they typically end up at NCCF for other reasons. Many have previously been in foster care, like the 18 year old involved in the murder.


Why import these future felons into MoCo?


the whole point of the program is to help steer them away from becoming felons and give them more educational opportunities.


Appears to be working brilliantly.


Given the program has been around since 1973 and this is the worst thing that has occurred in that time, yes, I expect it does for the most part work as it should. This is a monumental fail and it is heart-breaking on several levels.

Given that the program has been around since 1973 perhaps there is some data on actual outcomes to understand if it works? If not your post is also equally conjecture.


you're welcome to do any research you like into that data and then you can share it with us and give us your full assessment, of the program, this homicide, hell you can even comment on my cooking if you're so inclined.

Honestly incredible. Why don’t you try to do research before making claims if something works or not. I think the data is clear that NCCF is a massive failure and public health danger that should no longer be allowed to continue operating in our community.


Sure. Repeat yourself ad nauseam, but present us with actual facts........?

We can wait.


DP I’d say a single murder is sufficient to disqualify this program. What’s your cutoff? 10 murders? 100?
Anonymous


Your friend is an idiot. He might be getting it for $35 an eighth instead of $40+, but he probably has no idea what he's getting (strand, sativa or indica) and it could have something else in it. Even if the dealer says they know, I wouldn't trust a freaking drug dealer.

My friend has been doing this for years. Good dealers know they need to offer a good product or their reputation is ruined. It's like any other business. There's plenty of competition out there, so you better offer good service (his dealer does home delivery) and a good product. Once you've been dealing with the same person for years, they'd be stupid to suddenly drop quality on you.

Stupid and marijuana go together frequently as it turns out.
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Your friend is an idiot. He might be getting it for $35 an eighth instead of $40+, but he probably has no idea what he's getting (strand, sativa or indica) and it could have something else in it. Even if the dealer says they know, I wouldn't trust a freaking drug dealer.


My friend has been doing this for years. Good dealers know they need to offer a good product or their reputation is ruined. It's like any other business. There's plenty of competition out there, so you better offer good service (his dealer does home delivery) and a good product. Once you've been dealing with the same person for years, they'd be stupid to suddenly drop quality on you.

Stupid and marijuana go together frequently as it turns out.

Killing your drug dealer makes it difficult for him to provide future product reliably.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's see, in the past few years, NCCF has had the 3 murderers from last week, as well as Whitman student who assaulted another with a frying pan (who then jumped bail but was caught again).

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/police-id-19-year-old-student-accused-of-attacking-another-student-with-a-frying-pan-at-montgomery-co-school

But overall, the program does help hundreds of people a year who are not criminals and just need the help.


I think it's more important to examine how the decriminalization of marijuana is increasing use among all populations, including those who are underaged and not supposed to be using. Just like underage drinkers. The only way to get it is illegally. And robbery in the illegal drug market is very common. Just like the stabbing in Silver Spring in the middle of the day. People, young people, are robbing their dealers. And either hurt them or get hurt in the process. It seems to be a significant driver of violent crime right now. It's not limited to a residential program. It's county wide.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's see, in the past few years, NCCF has had the 3 murderers from last week, as well as Whitman student who assaulted another with a frying pan (who then jumped bail but was caught again).

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/police-id-19-year-old-student-accused-of-attacking-another-student-with-a-frying-pan-at-montgomery-co-school

But overall, the program does help hundreds of people a year who are not criminals and just need the help.


I think it's more important to examine how the decriminalization of marijuana is increasing use among all populations, including those who are underaged and not supposed to be using. Just like underage drinkers. The only way to get it is illegally. And robbery in the illegal drug market is very common. Just like the stabbing in Silver Spring in the middle of the day. People, young people, are robbing their dealers. And either hurt them or get hurt in the process. It seems to be a significant driver of violent crime right now. It's not limited to a residential program. It's county wide.


Young kids tob the dealer for drugs, young kids rob uber drivers for their cars,, young kids carjack in the broard daylight, etc. the problem is not the drug, not the uber drivers, not the cars. The problem is the kids who commited criminal action.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fox News?

That’s your research effort?

Oh my…


Whitman sent a letter home about the student being bashed in the head by a frying pan during class, by another resident of the group home program. I am not the poster of the link, but are you trying to claim the incident did not happen or that it could not have caused a life altering TBI?

Since the country closed the school program for troubled kids years ago they are kind of stuck with problem kids. The kid who did the stabbing was said by Whitman parents to be engaging in criminal conduct against other students and the administration did not do much. Luckily, the student victims were not stabbed when they resisted.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Established in 1973, GAP is a high-intensity, structured group home in Bethesda Maryland, serving males aged 12-20 who have experienced physical and emotional abuse, neglect, sex and human trafficking, or involvement with the juvenile justice system. The youth who are placed through the Maryland Department of Social Services or the Department of Juvenile Services receive individual and group therapy, trauma informed, positive youth development, life skills development, educational services, pro-social recreation activities, and comprehensive health services. In addition, these youth receive 24-hour residential care and supportive services that focus on family permanency and community reintegration.

https://nccf-cares.org/youth/



This is just fancy language for a partial care psychiatric facility for adolescents involved in the criminal justice and foster care systems.


It’s fancy for sexually molested and rape victims.
of course it could be both.


It's primarily a program for adolescent boys from DC who have been involved in the criminal justice system and who have been removed from parental care. While boys can certainly be sexually assaulted, they typically end up at NCCF for other reasons. Many have previously been in foster care, like the 18 year old involved in the murder.


Why import these future felons into MoCo?


the whole point of the program is to help steer them away from becoming felons and give them more educational opportunities.


Appears to be working brilliantly.


Given the program has been around since 1973 and this is the worst thing that has occurred in that time, yes, I expect it does for the most part work as it should. This is a monumental fail and it is heart-breaking on several levels.

Given that the program has been around since 1973 perhaps there is some data on actual outcomes to understand if it works? If not your post is also equally conjecture.


you're welcome to do any research you like into that data and then you can share it with us and give us your full assessment, of the program, this homicide, hell you can even comment on my cooking if you're so inclined.

Honestly incredible. Why don’t you try to do research before making claims if something works or not. I think the data is clear that NCCF is a massive failure and public health danger that should no longer be allowed to continue operating in our community.


Sure. Repeat yourself ad nauseam, but present us with actual facts........?

We can wait.


DP I’d say a single murder is sufficient to disqualify this program. What’s your cutoff? 10 murders? 100?


Should the police force be disbanded? What about congress? How about the Catholic church? One single crime by any member of your organization and you should be disbanded!

Notice how you only focused on the organization with a mission of helping people who are in need.
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Anonymous wrote:Established in 1973, GAP is a high-intensity, structured group home in Bethesda Maryland, serving males aged 12-20 who have experienced physical and emotional abuse, neglect, sex and human trafficking, or involvement with the juvenile justice system. The youth who are placed through the Maryland Department of Social Services or the Department of Juvenile Services receive individual and group therapy, trauma informed, positive youth development, life skills development, educational services, pro-social recreation activities, and comprehensive health services. In addition, these youth receive 24-hour residential care and supportive services that focus on family permanency and community reintegration.

https://nccf-cares.org/youth/



This is just fancy language for a partial care psychiatric facility for adolescents involved in the criminal justice and foster care systems.


It’s fancy for sexually molested and rape victims.
of course it could be both.


It's primarily a program for adolescent boys from DC who have been involved in the criminal justice system and who have been removed from parental care. While boys can certainly be sexually assaulted, they typically end up at NCCF for other reasons. Many have previously been in foster care, like the 18 year old involved in the murder.


Why import these future felons into MoCo?


the whole point of the program is to help steer them away from becoming felons and give them more educational opportunities.


Appears to be working brilliantly.


Given the program has been around since 1973 and this is the worst thing that has occurred in that time, yes, I expect it does for the most part work as it should. This is a monumental fail and it is heart-breaking on several levels.

Given that the program has been around since 1973 perhaps there is some data on actual outcomes to understand if it works? If not your post is also equally conjecture.


you're welcome to do any research you like into that data and then you can share it with us and give us your full assessment, of the program, this homicide, hell you can even comment on my cooking if you're so inclined.

Honestly incredible. Why don’t you try to do research before making claims if something works or not. I think the data is clear that NCCF is a massive failure and public health danger that should no longer be allowed to continue operating in our community.


Sure. Repeat yourself ad nauseam, but present us with actual facts........?

We can wait.


DP I’d say a single murder is sufficient to disqualify this program. What’s your cutoff? 10 murders? 100?


Should the police force be disbanded? What about congress? How about the Catholic church? One single crime by any member of your organization and you should be disbanded!

Notice how you only focused on the organization with a mission of helping people who are in need.

I honestly do not understand the point you are trying to make. Please try to make some sense.
Anonymous
Statement to the neighborhood:

Neighbors, 


Many of you have reached out to offer support or assistance in response to the recent violence and death, which, at the time, involved 3 program participants who resided on our Bethesda campus. NCCF is extraordinarily saddened by this loss of life, as well as for the three youth who are reportedly involved in this unexpected tragedy and we have cooperated fully with authorities.  We are so very grateful for this level of compassion and outreach, especially during this holiday season, and the spiking pandemic, and for your many expressions of care for the uninvolved children, youth and families who continue to receive services on this campus and in this community.  


Background

The National Center for Children and Families (NCCF), formerly known as the Baptist Home for Children, arrived in this “neighborhood” in 1930 when the District of Columbia Baptist Convention purchased a 140-acre farm to relocate their orphanage. Many of you have purchased homes on property that once belonged to that original farm. NCCF prides itself on being a good and responsible neighbor. 


The Greentree Adolescent Program (GAP) was established in 1973 and has been in continuous operation in Bethesda since its inception. Eligible youth are assessed using Maryland State guidelines and are referred to this community-based care from all over the state.  GAP’s goal is either to successfully return each individual young person to their family, or to equip the youth for independent living. 


How You Can Help

1) Please encourage your neighbors and friends to let the results of these shocking circumstances play-out and unfold in their proper channels. This crisis understandably triggers strong and powerful emotions and sharing incomplete or incorrect information will not help the authorities with their investigation or aid in the legal process. 


2) Learn more about GAP and how, for over 50 years, it has successfully transitioned young people within this community. These youth have joined the military, graduated from Whitman High School, returned to their families, obtained gainful employment, attended college, and most importantly, became positive and productive citizens.  Join an upcoming NCCF webinar to learn more about who we are and what we do. Educate your neighbors who did not know that GAP youth have been members of the community for decades. 

 

3) Write an inspiring letter to an assigned youth in GAP or write a letter of encouragement to a staff member. Help them move through this difficult time by sharing your empathy and support. For youth, highlight their value and talents that will drive their personal vision for a better life. Recognize their courageous journeys and accomplishments. Acknowledge the staff’s commitment.  Contact Krista Malbouef, Clinical Director (kmalbouef@nccf-cares.org) for more details. 


4) Support the program by participating in a Tasty Tuesday or Tasty Thursday for 16 youth and 4 staff members, respectively. One of our most popular and beloved activities for GAP youth, you can choose the menu and even sign up to help participate in the cultural activities. Sign up here: https://www.signupgenius.com/go/10c084dafae28aafe3-tasty


5) Assist with increasing and diversifying extra-curricular activities for young people in GAP such as ice skating, bowling, outdoor education activities, career day, etc. Creative recreational and educational activities contribute to the well-being of all young people. Contact Dahlia Levin, Director of External Affairs (dlevin@nccf-cares.org) with ideas.  


Community Resources 

6) Talk to young people in your family and networks about the challenges they may face right now. This may include substance abuse, adolescent depression and suicide, pandemic effects and the breakdown in social contact. If you or someone you know is struggling with a youth who is engaged in substance abuse, please contact the Montgomery County Crisis Center at their 24-hour hotline 240-777-4000.  You may also receive mental health support for any reason by contacting EveryMind:


Crisis Hotline: 301-738-2255 Online Chat System: https://www.every-mind.org/chat/ Text Line: 301-738-2255 (8:00 am – Midnight)


We thank all of you for your continued support of the young people who find themselves living in this neighborhood voluntarily, yet for reasons beyond their control. We appreciate your recognition that they also are deserving members of this community, and that, as adults, we all must ensure their development into healthy productive citizens. For over a century, your willingness to help young people who cannot live with their families has been a transformative and integral part of healing for thousands. During these difficult times, we believe this ultimately is what will keep us all safe.


As we embark upon another new year together, we wish you the very best of health, well-being, and happiness in 2022. 


With Warmest Regards,

Dr. Sheryl Brissett Chapman,

Anonymous
This statement is disgusting. Instead of apologizing to the community for their failure to adequately supervise there charges and therefore indangering the same community, she sticks her had out for donations. Just gross. This was the time to promise to do better.
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