Fed 2023 salary table

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

Agree. Then you have the only people who will take a 15 are narcissists that like to control people.

[Anonymous]

Pay compression is nuts. It is really frustrating. I’m dialing way back on my commitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's already equal in SF and NYC. Can't believe people at Gs-15 salaries can live there with everything so expensive.

People with less than that live there too. There aren't that many gs15s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

Agree. Then you have the only people who will take a 15 are narcissists that like to control people.

All our GS15 were 45+ directors or such pushed out of private industry moving to govt for stable job to work till retirement. They aren’t bad and often come in with good ideas from industry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

Agree. Then you have the only people who will take a 15 are narcissists that like to control people.

All our GS15 were 45+ directors or such pushed out of private industry moving to govt for stable job to work till retirement. They aren’t bad and often come in with good ideas from industry.

That is not usually the way Govt hires for 15s. They would go for someone that has experience of working within Govt and have good rapport within various groups. That's why you see 90% of the 15 hires were previous feds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

Agree. Then you have the only people who will take a 15 are narcissists that like to control people.

All our GS15 were 45+ directors or such pushed out of private industry moving to govt for stable job to work till retirement. They aren’t bad and often come in with good ideas from industry.

That is not usually the way Govt hires for 15s. They would go for someone that has experience of working within Govt and have good rapport within various groups. That's why you see 90% of the 15 hires were previous feds.

Okay, but our GS14 all make almost make the same in non support role, and so few willing to take those bigger jobs with essentially zero comp. So we have to go outside.

[Anonymous]

*non supv

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should happen soon. The max gap between Gs14-10 and max Gs-15 is going to reduce further. They need to provide better incentive for people to go for Gs-15 jobs. I have tons of people in my group that are happy with Gs-14 jobs because it is not worth the salt at 15 level.

Even without pay compression it's not worth it. Tons of extra work and stress for like $10-$15K more per year no thanks.

Agree. Then you have the only people who will take a 15 are narcissists that like to control people.

All our GS15 were 45+ directors or such pushed out of private industry moving to govt for stable job to work till retirement. They aren’t bad and often come in with good ideas from industry.

That is not usually the way Govt hires for 15s. They would go for someone that has experience of working within Govt and have good rapport within various groups. That's why you see 90% of the 15 hires were previous feds.

Like everything, this differs by agency. Lots of our GS-15s are from outside because most Feds don’t want the extra work of being a supervisor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:any idea what would be the total raise for people in DC area? I am expecting atleast 5% due to higher locality adjustment. If that happens, then difference between the max raise and raise for Gs-15 would be about 1%. The gap keeps on shrinking every year and very soon GS-14 and 15 cap would be same. They already are in San Francisco and NYC.

Probably 5.1%

Why would it be this high?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:any idea what would be the total raise for people in DC area? I am expecting atleast 5% due to higher locality adjustment. If that happens, then difference between the max raise and raise for Gs-15 would be about 1%. The gap keeps on shrinking every year and very soon GS-14 and 15 cap would be same. They already are in San Francisco and NYC.

Probably 5.1%

Why would it be this high?

Because DC area would get locality adjustment of more than 0.5%. I think last year it was 1%.

[Anonymous]

Why hasn’t it been released yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn’t it been released yet?

Because they are not ready.

[Anonymous]

My husband just got his 14 and no reason to go to 15. I’m a 15/9 and he only makes like $12000 less. The 15 will come with tons of work and headache. His superiors have been grooming him and specifically asked if he was going to turn down a 15. Answer yep…. Buying back his military time in years more than makes up for difference between a 14/10 and a 15!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband just got his 14 and no reason to go to 15. I’m a 15/9 and he only makes like $12000 less. The 15 will come with tons of work and headache. His superiors have been grooming him and specifically asked if he was going to turn down a 15. Answer yep…. Buying back his military time in years more than makes up for difference between a 14/10 and a 15!

Cool but what does that got to do with availability of 2023 tables?