Gaza War, Part 2

[Anonymous]

I have a question to all the Israel and Middle East experts, but mainly the Israel apologists.

I see there is no exit plan for this war, ground troops are going to be engaged for a long time, civilians are going to die or starve.
So what is the likelihood of this conflict not escalating?
Are the neighboring nations really not going to do anything?


And if you still defend Israel on this, what would it take for you to actually not agree anymore?

Surely an attack from neighboring nation would be devastating when all military forces are focused on Gaza

Am I the only one who thinks Netanyahu should retire

[Anonymous]

So much talk and rhetoric on here and irritation with Jews and Israel. But despite the keyboard warriors (that is all they are, they cannot fight back for some reason in a ear they started with Israel so they are using the power of the internet to tell Isreal pretty please stop hurting us)
Israel will not cease to be a country.
Jews will continue to exist as a people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all the Israel and Middle East experts, but mainly the Israel apologists.

I see there is no exit plan for this war, ground troops are going to be engaged for a long time, civilians are going to die or starve.
So what is the likelihood of this conflict not escalating?
Are the neighboring nations really not going to do anything?


And if you still defend Israel on this, what would it take for you to actually not agree anymore?

Surely an attack from neighboring nation would be devastating when all military forces are focused on Gaza

Am I the only one who thinks Netanyahu should retire

Yes. Lost in all of this chatter is the mis governance by Netanyahu that is going to make it very difficult to “win” anything. War has always been f’ed up though and it is unrealistic to think Israel wouldn’t defend itself (Netanyahu or any other government). To say Israel has no right to defend itself is IMO antisemitic. To say that Netanyahu dug a huge hole is not antisemitic. (Most Jews I know think this. I don’t think I know a single Jew who supports Bibi or is totally comfortable with AIPAC.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

How is indiscriminate bombing of two million very young and poor Palestinians not genocide?

Dictionary, girl. It’s also debatable whether it’s indiscriminate. But, yes, every life lost in a war is tragic. Hamas could surrender. It shouldn’t have started this war but they don’t give a shit about their own people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all the Israel and Middle East experts, but mainly the Israel apologists.

I see there is no exit plan for this war, ground troops are going to be engaged for a long time, civilians are going to die or starve.
So what is the likelihood of this conflict not escalating?
Are the neighboring nations really not going to do anything?


And if you still defend Israel on this, what would it take for you to actually not agree anymore?

Surely an attack from neighboring nation would be devastating when all military forces are focused on Gaza

Am I the only one who thinks Netanyahu should retire

If Gaza didn't want its people to suffer it should have not started a war. Neighboring nations do not care enough to get involved. What would it take for people to defend Israel? Now you see the limits of rhetoric and anger and passion, you can have all this and show it to the world but eventually it is not enough and people will begin to use their common sense and decency. Once people start using common sense and decency, your slyness and artful words ("there will be no peace untill..."--so you will violent till you get your way "what about OUR babies!"--Israel's babies do not matter?) will show that you are not the side to align with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all the Israel and Middle East experts, but mainly the Israel apologists.

I see there is no exit plan for this war, ground troops are going to be engaged for a long time, civilians are going to die or starve.
So what is the likelihood of this conflict not escalating?
Are the neighboring nations really not going to do anything?


And if you still defend Israel on this, what would it take for you to actually not agree anymore?

Surely an attack from neighboring nation would be devastating when all military forces are focused on Gaza

Am I the only one who thinks Netanyahu should retire

If Gaza didn't want its people to suffer it should have not started a war. Neighboring nations do not care enough to get involved. What would it take for people to not defend Israel? Now you see the limits of rhetoric and anger and passion, you can have all this and show it to the world but eventually it is not enough and people will begin to use their common sense and decency. Once people start using common sense and decency, your slyness and artful words ("there will be no peace untill..."--so you will violent till you get your way "what about OUR babies!"--Israel's babies do not matter?) will show that you are not the side to align with.

Fixed typo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1718240244129059167?s=20

Lol purely propaganda. The residents of Gaza have no power, internet or cell phone service but somehow they will see this Twitter message?

It’s absurd that Israel is expected to provide those things to people who have just butchered their children in their cribs. Millions in aid has been provided to the Palestinians over the years, even more now, and we find out (no surprise) that the people still suffer because Hamas confiscates it all for themselves. I’m sorry that innocents will die, but it’s very important to free the innocent Palestinians from Hamas.

Billions are given to Israel each year. Isreal wouldn't exist without the help of the US. Germany owes you land.

[Anonymous]

It’s very clear the propalestine voices here do not want Jews on the land of Israel. Germany? Gtfo. We can’t take you seriously when you wail about genocide and make those comments.

[Anonymous]

Given that the clock is not going to rewind to 10/6 much less 1948, I’d like the Palestinian freedom fighters in here to tell me what they want for the Palestinian people that doesn’t call for the annihilation and extermination of Israel and the Jews living there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much talk and rhetoric on here and irritation with Jews and Israel. But despite the keyboard warriors (that is all they are, they cannot fight back for some reason in a ear they started with Israel so they are using the power of the internet to tell Isreal pretty please stop hurting us)
Israel will not cease to be a country.
Jews will continue to exist as a people.

These things are not synonymous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much talk and rhetoric on here and irritation with Jews and Israel. But despite the keyboard warriors (that is all they are, they cannot fight back for some reason in a ear they started with Israel so they are using the power of the internet to tell Isreal pretty please stop hurting us)
Israel will not cease to be a country.
Jews will continue to exist as a people.

These things are not synonymous.

Yes...that is why they are two separate sentences. But both are still true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that the clock is not going to rewind to 10/6 much less 1948, I’d like the Palestinian freedom fighters in here to tell me what they want for the Palestinian people that doesn’t call for the annihilation and extermination of Israel and the Jews living there?

Crickets again.

[Anonymous]

So much talk and rhetoric on here and irritation with Jews and Israel. But despite the keyboard warriors (that is all they are, they cannot fight back for some reason in a ear they started with Israel so they are using the power of the internet to tell Isreal pretty please stop hurting us)
Israel will not cease to be a country.
Jews will continue to exist as a people.

These things are not synonymous.

Yes...that is why they are two separate sentences. But both are still true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that the clock is not going to rewind to 10/6 much less 1948, I’d like the Palestinian freedom fighters in here to tell me what they want for the Palestinian people that doesn’t call for the annihilation and extermination of Israel and the Jews living there?

That is a very wonderful and useful rhetoric

All that aside, I do not see peace as a reality. There would have to be major concessions on both sides and a concrete plan for how to implement the 2 state solution,

If peace doesn’t come, I see Israel as inevitably being at war with more nations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel should deal with its own problems.
I am tired of this becoming a US issue.
US Jews often act like they care more about Israel than the US. That is not cool and they need to be called out on that.

Cool, now do Ukraine.

We seem to support Israel for ever. Ukraine is for a specific period. If Israel will collapse without massive US support, they need to figure out how to get along in the region. Jews like to act like Israel is amazing but it is nothing without the US. Get real and stop living in your imaginary world.