Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Did FCPS really provide data divided by economic class? I saw the data divided by race/ethnicity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Did FCPS really provide data divided by economic class? I saw the data divided by race/ethnicity.

DP, I saw race and ethnicity. I also saw Title I, SPED, and ESOL and by pyramid. I assume the people that sell the same information that I did were able to dissect the rich from the poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Did FCPS really provide data divided by economic class? I saw the data divided by race/ethnicity.

DP, I saw race and ethnicity. I also saw Title I, SPED, and ESOL and by pyramid. I assume the people that sell the same information that I did were able to dissect the rich from the poor.

First quoted PP in this post said middle class. I don't think you can define middle class as only students at title I schools by far. Title I is a poverty program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Link for your first statement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Ok, and? 1) the hybrid system was awful and a lot of parents (of all income levels!) decided they’d rather keep kids home for consistency’s sake. 2) since when do we let people just opt out of school? We set a dangerous precedent when we make education “optional.” It’s bad for society at large. Look at the history of public education and the progressive movements of the late 1800s/early 1900s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Ok, and? 1) the hybrid system was awful and a lot of parents (of all income levels!) decided they’d rather keep kids home for consistency’s sake. 2) since when do we let people just opt out of school? We set a dangerous precedent when we make education “optional.” It’s bad for society at large. Look at the history of public education and the progressive movements of the late 1800s/early 1900s.

So true. I wasn’t about to send my high schooler back in person, only to be one of a handful in her classes, staring at her computer while her teachers remained at home. She can do that just as well from home. The whole “return to school!” was such a farce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Ok, and? 1) the hybrid system was awful and a lot of parents (of all income levels!) decided they’d rather keep kids home for consistency’s sake. 2) since when do we let people just opt out of school? We set a dangerous precedent when we make education “optional.” It’s bad for society at large. Look at the history of public education and the progressive movements of the late 1800s/early 1900s.

So true. I wasn’t about to send my high schooler back in person, only to be one of a handful in her classes, staring at her computer while her teachers remained at home. She can do that just as well from home. The whole “return to school!” was such a farce.

Yeah. My neighbor’s kids are in HS. They didn’t go back. The older kid worked at a local restaurant every garbage “asynchronous Monday” and a lot of other random times during the week too. That was his own choice. A lot of kids - boys especially - don’t particularly care about school and would rather be working/making money or just goofing off and playing games. That’s part of the reason why we have mandatory public education until age 18.

[Anonymous]

I have to assume that people who were part of OpenFcps made their kids go back to school. Otherwise they are even worse than I thought they were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to assume that people who were part of OpenFcps made their kids go back to school. Otherwise they are even worse than I thought they were.

Weren’t they advocating for a return to a normal classroom experience, not just the opportunity for their kids to watch their teachers remotely on a laptop from within a school building? Don’t quite follow your purity test here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open FCPS is dominated by Great Falls residents and other upper middle class or rich residents, predominantly white . Look at the data and notice that most middle class and lower income residents and black and hispanic residents didn’t send their kids back even when schools opened.

Did FCPS really provide data divided by economic class? I saw the data divided by race/ethnicity.

DP, I saw race and ethnicity. I also saw Title I, SPED, and ESOL and by pyramid. I assume the people that sell the same information that I did were able to dissect the rich from the poor.

First quoted PP in this post said middle class. I don't think you can define middle class as only students at title I schools by far. Title I is a poverty program.

I meant that you could clearly pull those students out. Sorry if that was not clear from my explanation. I actually work at a Title I school.

[Anonymous]

And if the SB had voted to send kids back you would have a group of parents up in arms that it was too soon/too risky. They had no way of making everyone happy. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And if the SB had voted to send kids back you would have a group of parents up in arms that it was too soon/too risky. They had no way of making everyone happy. Deal with it.

At no point did anyone ask for FCPS not to offer virtual for all who desired it. All pro-in-person families wanted was their choice too. 20% of the US offered that all year, and much of Europe fought hard to keep schools open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much energy is directed toward trying to make parents feel that any efforts they make are hopeless.

Someone doesn't like the peasants getting ideas.

Yes, residents of Great Falls are best described as peasants. 🙄

Do you seriously think that only Great Falls residents are involved in recall petitions? You do realize this is a big county, right? Wow.

I don’t see a lot of my Region 3 neighbors working with you lot, but we’re just the poors so we don’t really matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if the SB had voted to send kids back you would have a group of parents up in arms that it was too soon/too risky. They had no way of making everyone happy. Deal with it.

At no point did anyone ask for FCPS not to offer virtual for all who desired it. All pro-in-person families wanted was their choice too. 20% of the US offered that all year, and much of Europe fought hard to keep schools open.

A whole 20%! Wow, you've really made your point.

The majority of teachers didn't want to go back in person while there was a risk of COVID and the school district needed teachers to teach. Maybe you forgot there was a global pandemic that killed millions worldwide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much energy is directed toward trying to make parents feel that any efforts they make are hopeless.

Someone doesn't like the peasants getting ideas.

Yes, residents of Great Falls are best described as peasants. 🙄

Do you seriously think that only Great Falls residents are involved in recall petitions? You do realize this is a big county, right? Wow.

I don’t see a lot of my Region 3 neighbors working with you lot, but we’re just the poors so we don’t really matter.

Region 3 parents sit back while Karen Corbett Sanders gets a ton of money spent on a West Potomac addition so no kids have to move to Mount Vernon. Don’t expect to get a lot of respect when you tolerate financial mismanagement on top of everything else. If Great Falls residents seem to take everything into their own hands, there might be a reason why.