MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is horrible we all know this.

The officer involved is a 26 year veteran. One would think she would know the difference between her taser and her gun. A gun weighs more. It would have felt very different to her even in the heat of the moment.

I highly doubt the officer woke up this morning deciding to kill someone. She needed better training and this is negligent manslaughter. A "senior" member of the department should know the difference between a gun and a taser.

Whatever this man did prior to getting killed is not the issue. Anyone who thinks so is wrong.

Oh, so personal responsibility is only a thing for people who are trying to earn a living, NOT criminals. Gotcha. Guess we can just go ahead and cancel the whole justice system, huh?

We do not summarily execute people in this country. Personal responsibility would have been arresting and charging him, NOT killing him. That you confuse extrajudicial killings with justice is honestly scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is horrible we all know this.

The officer involved is a 26 year veteran. One would think she would know the difference between her taser and her gun. A gun weighs more. It would have felt very different to her even in the heat of the moment.

I highly doubt the officer woke up this morning deciding to kill someone. She needed better training and this is negligent manslaughter. A "senior" member of the department should know the difference between a gun and a taser.

Whatever this man did prior to getting killed is not the issue. Anyone who thinks so is wrong.

Oh, so personal responsibility is only a thing for people who are trying to earn a living, NOT criminals. Gotcha. Guess we can just go ahead and cancel the whole justice system, huh?

You should probably be executed the next time you speed while driving. Shrugs / personal responsibility.

If I tried to give chase while being arrested, yes, I would expect to be shot. In fact, this is widely acknowledged—people do “suicide by cop” all the time operating on this assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is horrible we all know this.

The officer involved is a 26 year veteran. One would think she would know the difference between her taser and her gun. A gun weighs more. It would have felt very different to her even in the heat of the moment.

I highly doubt the officer woke up this morning deciding to kill someone. She needed better training and this is negligent manslaughter. A "senior" member of the department should know the difference between a gun and a taser.

Whatever this man did prior to getting killed is not the issue. Anyone who thinks so is wrong.

Oh, so personal responsibility is only a thing for people who are trying to earn a living, NOT criminals. Gotcha. Guess we can just go ahead and cancel the whole justice system, huh?

You should probably be executed the next time you speed while driving. Shrugs / personal responsibility.

If I tried to give chase while being arrested, yes, I would expect to be shot. In fact, this is widely acknowledged—people do “suicide by cop” all the time operating on this assumption.

Suicide by cop is when you present a direct that to police like pointing a gun at them.

Running from the police is not presenting a direct threat to them. Except if you're Black, apparently. Then it's all "they're coming right for me!"

Your arguments are so thinly veiled that there's no other reasonable explanation. You're just looking to excuse the police executing a Black man. You're not filling anyone.

[Anonymous]

Look, it’s obvious and simple what happened now that the video is out:

She grabbed her sidearm instead of her Tazer. A single shot was accidentally deployed.

This was simply a tragic accident, that’s all.

No racism, no intent. Just let this one go.

[Anonymous]

Oh, more people here to say "it's not a race thing." How many times do you need to say "it's not a race thing" before you realize (or acknowledge) that it is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain how the shooting was not justified. Once the guy went back to get in the car, why isn’t use of lethal force reasonable. (I recognize she meant to use a taser, but even if she intended to use a gun, what’s the issue.). The guy could have been reaching for a gun. Has anyone seen the New Mexico video showing the officer getting gunned down?

https://nypost.com/2021/04/11/new-mexico-cop-darrian-jarrotts-shooting-death-during-traffic-stop-video/

Or what about the Nashville cop getting shot by the woman who went back into her car, resisting arrest:

https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/maam-put-the-gun-down-video-shows-tennessee-cop-and-woman-shooting-each-other-as-she-tried-to-flee-stop/

At some point, shouldn't not killing people be more important than taking people into custody? It's not like he was actively committing a crime at that moment. Maybe we need to err on the side of life, rather than shows of force.

You’re completely missing the point. He’s resisting arrest and he goes back into the car. How do the police know that he’s not reaching for a gun. Are they supposed to wait until they see his hands? Go watch those videos I linked to.

Yes. They are supposed to let him go. He is not a fleeing felon and he is not a danger to society.

That is what police policy states.

Nice spinning of the facts. You make it like he was running away and the police shot him in the back. Once he got into back into the car, he could have reached for a gun. Spare me your armchair quarterbacking. And please show me the police policy that says once a guy resists arrest and gets into his car, it’s policy to just let him go.

Holy crap. You think lethal force is A-ok because someone could be doing something. Jesus f-ing Christ.

The real problem here is that policing attracts the lowest quality people. The idiots, the bullies, the authoritarians. And the boot lickers that support them.

I do think if there wasn’t the excuse that they might have had a gun it would cut down on cops killing people. The fact that every yahoo who wants a gun can have one makes it harder for good cops and easy for bad ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the identity of the officer being protected?

Probably not.

She doesn’t work for US Capitol Police.

Her name is not anywhere so I think it’s still being withheld

Her name is Kim Potter and she is president of the police union in Brooklyn Center. https://kstp.com/news/bca-identifies-officer-in-daunte-wright-shooting/6073236/

[Anonymous]

Was the female police officer white?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, it’s obvious and simple what happened now that the video is out:

She grabbed her sidearm instead of her Tazer. A single shot was accidentally deployed.

This was simply a tragic accident, that’s all.

No racism, no intent. Just let this one go.

A life was lost. Imagine it was someone you cared about, since you clearly struggle with empathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was the female police officer white?

Yes. https://kstp.com/news/bca-identifies-officer-in-daunte-wright-shooting/6073236/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, more people here to say "it's not a race thing." How many times do you need to say "it's not a race thing" before you realize (or acknowledge) that it is?

“Racism” made her grab the wrong weapon? Srsly? This was an accident, it’s tragic, but it could have happened to anybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: This is horrible we all know this.

The officer involved is a 26 year veteran. One would think she would know the difference between her taser and her gun. A gun weighs more. It would have felt very different to her even in the heat of the moment.

I highly doubt the officer woke up this morning deciding to kill someone. She needed better training and this is negligent manslaughter. A "senior" member of the department should know the difference between a gun and a taser.

Whatever this man did prior to getting killed is not the issue. Anyone who thinks so is wrong.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Second degree manslaughter in Minnesota still requires a conscious decision to take an unreasonable risk. What was that conscious decision? You seem to agree that the video suggests she thought she pulled out her taser.

I'm sure the officer can tell the difference between a taser and a gun. But any time you're put in a stressful and potentially dangerous situation, there's going to be a risk of making a mistake. That's what seemed to happen here. That doesn't make it OK. But it doesn't necessarily make her criminally responsible for a homicide, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the female police officer white?

Yes. https://kstp.com/news/bca-identifies-officer-in-daunte-wright-shooting/6073236/

His mother is white as well.

[Anonymous]

Lawyer here who used to go after bad cops. Video is clear and is why bodycam video is needed. This was a mistake. She says taser, taser taser and fires a single pull. If she was shooting him a single pull is unlikely. If she meant to shoot him and cover it up most would yell gun not taser, taser, taser. The other officers are not clear for a gunshot either. Also the context is a guy slipping out of handcuffs and there is an ongoing battle. There is no crime committed by the officer. Negligent homicide requires a level of intent that is not really negligent despite the name. I will go further and say they may not be able to legally fire her. I think they will. Mayor is already calling for it but she will get the job back with back pay. People may not like that but it is what I see.