PSA: Please do not host a Christian seder

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Anonymous wrote:At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit.

ok, call it an Exodus meal.

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend.

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences.

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all."

Oh wow. Blaming Jews for our own persecution because we are apparently too insular, as opposed to proselytizing.

That’s a new low.

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Anonymous wrote:At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit.

ok, call it an Exodus meal.

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend.

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences.

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all."

Really? Church is a welcoming place? Tell that to my best friend who is having a hard time finding a place to baptize his baby daughter because he is a man married to another man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit.

ok, call it an Exodus meal.

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend.

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences.

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all."

oh bingo - and the disguise falls and we see the line between “Christian passover” and over anti-Semitism is very easy to step over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit.

ok, call it an Exodus meal.

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend.

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences.

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all."

Really? Church is a welcoming place? Tell that to my best friend who is having a hard time finding a place to baptize his baby daughter because he is a man married to another man.

Churches say “all are welcome” but that’s usually because they hope to convert you.

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Anonymous wrote:Jews having a Christmas tree is not the same thing as Christians hosting a seder. But thanks for making it all about Christians.

actually it is. As a Christian I believe in the Passover story. A Jewish person does t actually believe Jesus was Gods son.

The Old Testament is part of Christianity. It’s part of the Christian religious tradition. Similarly, much of the Bible also overlaps with the Quran — it’s part of the Islamic religion. I don’t think many Christians realize that Jesus is a prophet in the Quran. Similarly, many Jews discount the relevance of Jewish prophets in Christianity. The three religions have so much overlap that we are called the people of the book.

NP. +1

-1000. Judaism is not a branch or primitive form of Christianity, as much as you would like to make it so.

By that definition do you think that Christianity is a primitive form of Islam?

I would truly appreciate a response to this question.

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We Jews don’t bar outsiders from entry. Where did you get that idea?

We just don’t proselytize. Anyone who wants to convert is welcome to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:the one lesson I take from this is that many, many Christians are hopelessly confused and uneducated about their own religion.

Yep! And about Judaism. Barring outsiders from entry?

Oy.

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Why do you care how another religion practices its own interpretation of religion? This is such an uncommon practice, for Christians to celebrate with a Seder, but it has you so upset?

You you find it offensive?

I don’t think you would appreciate somebody outside Judism coming in and telling you that things you do and how you interpret your religion is offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit.

ok, call it an Exodus meal.

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend.

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences.

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all."

So gross. Hope you don’t have children to whom to pass on your racist views. Poor human and very poor Christian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care how another religion practices its own interpretation of religion? This is such an uncommon practice, for Christians to celebrate with a Seder, but it has you so upset?

You you find it offensive?

I don’t think you would appreciate somebody outside Judism coming in and telling you that things you do and how you interpret your religion is offensive.

ok, explain to me what “Christian passover” gives you that Easter does not. Please explain it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care how another religion practices its own interpretation of religion? This is such an uncommon practice, for Christians to celebrate with a Seder, but it has you so upset?

You you find it offensive?

I don’t think you would appreciate somebody outside Judism coming in and telling you that things you do and how you interpret your religion is offensive.

Again, read the links that were posted. They explain it well.

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It’s a subversion of a sacred Jewish tradition. That’s why it’s offensive.

Would you question why a Muslim finds people drawing Mohammed offensive? Or why a Christian would find burning the Cross offensive?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care how another religion practices its own interpretation of religion? This is such an uncommon practice, for Christians to celebrate with a Seder, but it has you so upset?

You you find it offensive?

I don’t think you would appreciate somebody outside Judism coming in and telling you that things you do and how you interpret your religion is offensive.

ok, explain to me what “Christian passover” gives you that Easter does not. Please explain it.

I don’t have to. It’s none of my businesss and I don’t have to understand how a different religion chooses to practice their religion. Full stop. I’m talking about and extremely rare occurrence of Christian celebrating Passover. Who cares?? It is how they express the religion. It’s OK! I’m sure some even celebrate Shabbat, or a variation thereof. It is how they practice their religion.

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I don't think you should be allowed to drink green beer unless you're irish so please refrain from doing so. Also no polka dancing unless you are polish.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you should be allowed to drink green beer unless you're irish so please refrain from doing so. Also no polka dancing unless you are polish.

Are those sacred things?

We’re asking you all to be respectful of our sacred traditions.