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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

I know! Crazy how DA kids are getting scouted over ECNL kids now.

It's more specific than that. FCV players are being scouted over every other club now that her DD plays there. Before McLean Youth Soccer was scouted over every other club when her DD played there.

No, it is pretty much that simple.

I'm sure it would look better for a US Soccer Scout to have her kid play in ECNL?

She also had the job for a year while her kid was still playing ECNL before the move was made. So after a year of watching DA games she also chose the club/team she felt was best for her kid.

There is nothing nefarious about this at all.

If you think your kid is being overlooked then start with her coach. A email to US Soccer is free and if your coach is valued and trusted then US Soccer will take a look. Otherwise move your DD to a DA. But US Soccer is going to prioritize DA kids over ECNL.

BS. YTC recognizers talented players in ECNL. ECNL is still stronger than DA. FCV and WS would do anything to have ECNL girls and coaches.

LMAO on this one. Stronger then DA? What age groups? These ECNL girls and coaches? What age groups and clubs? This is delusional.

The one LTAO is the DA as they take the delusional parents checks to the bank. In note section they write, “another brainwashed parent.” Doesn’t matter what age group, because ECNL develops and DA recruits.

ECNL develops. Funny.

Someone may want to take a look at two of the top ECNL clubs in the area (BRYC & McLean) and tell us how they develop vs. recruit. BRYC and McLean can be found hiding in the woods recruiting at other clubs' games. LMAO.

If they’re hiding how are they recruiting?

McLean’s 02 ECNL coach has been seen hiding in the bushes at local competitors training sessions to ID players he wants to take. But, keep thinking he’s developing players.

BRYC same.

Still how can they recruit by taking notes?

wow. dense. I will bite. Why would they be there if not to recruit?

Don't think it is dense. I think this is one of the two coaches (BRYC or McLean) trying to excuse hiding in bushes by saying they were "taking notes".

I think those 2 coach’s records speak for themselves. Bring your daughters out for try-outs. Maybe then they’ll actually be looked at for YTC.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

I know! Crazy how DA kids are getting scouted over ECNL kids now.

It's more specific than that. FCV players are being scouted over every other club now that her DD plays there. Before McLean Youth Soccer was scouted over every other club when her DD played there.

No, it is pretty much that simple.

I'm sure it would look better for a US Soccer Scout to have her kid play in ECNL?

She also had the job for a year while her kid was still playing ECNL before the move was made. So after a year of watching DA games she also chose the club/team she felt was best for her kid.

There is nothing nefarious about this at all.

If you think your kid is being overlooked then start with her coach. A email to US Soccer is free and if your coach is valued and trusted then US Soccer will take a look. Otherwise move your DD to a DA. But US Soccer is going to prioritize DA kids over ECNL.

BS. YTC recognizers talented players in ECNL. ECNL is still stronger than DA. FCV and WS would do anything to have ECNL girls and coaches.

LMAO on this one. Stronger then DA? What age groups? These ECNL girls and coaches? What age groups and clubs? This is delusional.

The one LTAO is the DA as they take the delusional parents checks to the bank. In note section they write, “another brainwashed parent.” Doesn’t matter what age group, because ECNL develops and DA recruits.

ECNL develops. Funny.

Someone may want to take a look at two of the top ECNL clubs in the area (BRYC & McLean) and tell us how they develop vs. recruit. BRYC and McLean can be found hiding in the woods recruiting at other clubs' games. LMAO.

If they’re hiding how are they recruiting?

McLean’s 02 ECNL coach has been seen hiding in the bushes at local competitors training sessions to ID players he wants to take. But, keep thinking he’s developing players.

BRYC same.

Still how can they recruit by taking notes?

wow. dense. I will bite. Why would they be there if not to recruit?

Don't think it is dense. I think this is one of the two coaches (BRYC or McLean) trying to excuse hiding in bushes by saying they were "taking notes".

I think those 2 coach’s records speak for themselves. Bring your daughters out for try-outs. Maybe then they’ll actually be looked at for YTC.

I fix this for you two, font is getting small, difficult for us to read.
please follow on from here.

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Are you all going to go on for 10 more pages? Virtually ZERO of these players regardless of league are going pro you idiots. Anyone choosing a club for their kid because of the league or because they can go of an youth ID training center or two is fool fool fool.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

I know! Crazy how DA kids are getting scouted over ECNL kids now.

It's more specific than that. FCV players are being scouted over every other club now that her DD plays there. Before McLean Youth Soccer was scouted over every other club when her DD played there.

No, it is pretty much that simple.

I'm sure it would look better for a US Soccer Scout to have her kid play in ECNL?

She also had the job for a year while her kid was still playing ECNL before the move was made. So after a year of watching DA games she also chose the club/team she felt was best for her kid.

There is nothing nefarious about this at all.

If you think your kid is being overlooked then start with her coach. A email to US Soccer is free and if your coach is valued and trusted then US Soccer will take a look. Otherwise move your DD to a DA. But US Soccer is going to prioritize DA kids over ECNL.

BS. YTC recognizers talented players in ECNL. ECNL is still stronger than DA. FCV and WS would do anything to have ECNL girls and coaches.

LMAO on this one. Stronger then DA? What age groups? These ECNL girls and coaches? What age groups and clubs? This is delusional.

The one LTAO is the DA as they take the delusional parents checks to the bank. In note section they write, “another brainwashed parent.” Doesn’t matter what age group, because ECNL develops and DA recruits.

ECNL develops. Funny.

Someone may want to take a look at two of the top ECNL clubs in the area (BRYC & McLean) and tell us how they develop vs. recruit. BRYC and McLean can be found hiding in the woods recruiting at other clubs' games. LMAO.

If they’re hiding how are they recruiting?

McLean’s 02 ECNL coach has been seen hiding in the bushes at local competitors training sessions to ID players he wants to take. But, keep thinking he’s developing players.

BRYC same.

Still how can they recruit by taking notes?

wow. dense. I will bite. Why would they be there if not to recruit?

Don't think it is dense. I think this is one of the two coaches (BRYC or McLean) trying to excuse hiding in bushes by saying they were "taking notes".

I think those 2 coach’s records speak for themselves. Bring your daughters out for try-outs. Maybe then they’ll actually be looked at for YTC.

I fix this for you two, font is getting small, difficult for us to read.
please follow on from here.


It was a McLean coach

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the squabbling here about favoritism (which always exists in all avenues of life and always will), US Soccer doesn't know what they are doing. They are creating less avenues to create talent instead of more. They've created a system of more funneling and less access from the economically challenged player pool. Most winning soccer countries rely upon gritty, poor, pulled up from their bootstraps players to make their national soccer programs great. US Soccer seems to be missing this obvious source of talent. US basketball doesn't miss out on that, and look where we are in that sport (far and away the best in the world - even with other countries catching up a bit).

Anyhow, US Soccer could address by requiring "certified rec" leagues (i.e. those playing under USYS) to have all coaches, even volunteer, complete the grass roots training course. Spend funds on intercity and rural programs, instead of those that don't need the help. Decertify all "US Club" leagues as a part of USSF and force ECNL to go to EDP instead, then control the hierarchy of local, state, regional, and national leagues. Set maximum fee levels (based on local cost of living rates) for participating clubs and leagues. Work with sate high school associations to align HS soccer calendars and align leagues so that HS season allows for low travel soccer participation from HS players from U15 and up. Hence re-energizing HS soccer, culture and community spirit - since its free. Use DA teams as true "best of the best" teams for each major metro region - but no more than 1 team per age per "x" million people. Provide ample "pay for free" opportunities for poorer players that make the DA teams. Then, let promotion / relegation and "champions" style leagues take care of the natural good, better, best players / teams below the DA level. Rogue, competing leagues can try to start up - but unless they agree to be part of an organized USSF/USYS structured hierarchy - they are not certified leagues.

Good God. Not every great player is a poor South American. Not every South American is poor either. The whole of Europe plays soccer and it is just as much a middle class game over there as it is here.

Just lazy, lazy over generalization.

Where did I mention South America in my post? Where did I say that every SA is poor? Where did I say that EVERY good player is poor? Really, all of European soccer is middle class? Just not true. Anyhow, me thinks you're the one using stereo types and assumptions. Re-read what I wrote. Maybe you'll get it the second time. Or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the squabbling here about favoritism (which always exists in all avenues of life and always will), US Soccer doesn't know what they are doing. They are creating less avenues to create talent instead of more. They've created a system of more funneling and less access from the economically challenged player pool. Most winning soccer countries rely upon gritty, poor, pulled up from their bootstraps players to make their national soccer programs great. US Soccer seems to be missing this obvious source of talent. US basketball doesn't miss out on that, and look where we are in that sport (far and away the best in the world - even with other countries catching up a bit).

Anyhow, US Soccer could address by requiring "certified rec" leagues (i.e. those playing under USYS) to have all coaches, even volunteer, complete the grass roots training course. Spend funds on intercity and rural programs, instead of those that don't need the help. Decertify all "US Club" leagues as a part of USSF and force ECNL to go to EDP instead, then control the hierarchy of local, state, regional, and national leagues. Set maximum fee levels (based on local cost of living rates) for participating clubs and leagues. Work with sate high school associations to align HS soccer calendars and align leagues so that HS season allows for low travel soccer participation from HS players from U15 and up. Hence re-energizing HS soccer, culture and community spirit - since its free. Use DA teams as true "best of the best" teams for each major metro region - but no more than 1 team per age per "x" million people. Provide ample "pay for free" opportunities for poorer players that make the DA teams. Then, let promotion / relegation and "champions" style leagues take care of the natural good, better, best players / teams below the DA level. Rogue, competing leagues can try to start up - but unless they agree to be part of an organized USSF/USYS structured hierarchy - they are not certified leagues.

Good God. Not every great player is a poor South American. Not every South American is poor either. The whole of Europe plays soccer and it is just as much a middle class game over there as it is here.

Just lazy, lazy over generalization.

"Most winning soccer countries rely upon gritty, poor, pulled up from their bootstraps players to make their national soccer programs great."

Where did I mention South America in my post? Where did I say that every SA is poor? Where did I say that EVERY good player is poor? Really, all of European soccer is middle class? Just not true. Anyhow, me thinks you're the one using stereo types and assumptions. Re-read what I wrote. Maybe you'll get it the second time. Or not.

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"Most winning soccer countries rely upon gritty, poor, pulled up from their bootstraps players to make their national soccer programs great."

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

It’s actually much simpler than that. MYS was the destination club for top elite players back when ECNL was the only game in town. Now with DA, FCV has taken that role, and MYS has diminished.

The scout recognized the shift and moved her kid to DA, because she also wants what’s best for her kid. US Soccer wants top kids to play in DA. A few other top kids moved as well.

Simple and not nefarious. Sorry it doesn’t suit your wants

Or she shifted dd to fcv to keep her in the da since she was working for the da? Hhhmmmm

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

I know! Crazy how DA kids are getting scouted over ECNL kids now.

It's more specific than that. FCV players are being scouted over every other club now that her DD plays there. Before McLean Youth Soccer was scouted over every other club when her DD played there.

No, it is pretty much that simple.

I'm sure it would look better for a US Soccer Scout to have her kid play in ECNL?

She also had the job for a year while her kid was still playing ECNL before the move was made. So after a year of watching DA games she also chose the club/team she felt was best for her kid.

There is nothing nefarious about this at all.

If you think your kid is being overlooked then start with her coach. A email to US Soccer is free and if your coach is valued and trusted then US Soccer will take a look. Otherwise move your DD to a DA. But US Soccer is going to prioritize DA kids over ECNL.

BS. YTC recognizers talented players in ECNL. ECNL is still stronger than DA. FCV and WS would do anything to have ECNL girls and coaches.

Perhaps, but if the scouts are not at the ECNL games then it doesn't really matter.

That is the ultimate card that ECNL does not have.

AND even when those ECNL kids are ID'd they will be strongly encouraged to to play in a DA so that US Soccer can keep tabs on their development.

Scouts go attend ECNL games and events.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

I know! Crazy how DA kids are getting scouted over ECNL kids now.

It's more specific than that. FCV players are being scouted over every other club now that her DD plays there. Before McLean Youth Soccer was scouted over every other club when her DD played there.

No, it is pretty much that simple.

I'm sure it would look better for a US Soccer Scout to have her kid play in ECNL?

She also had the job for a year while her kid was still playing ECNL before the move was made. So after a year of watching DA games she also chose the club/team she felt was best for her kid.

There is nothing nefarious about this at all.

If you think your kid is being overlooked then start with her coach. A email to US Soccer is free and if your coach is valued and trusted then US Soccer will take a look. Otherwise move your DD to a DA. But US Soccer is going to prioritize DA kids over ECNL.

BS. YTC recognizers talented players in ECNL. ECNL is still stronger than DA. FCV and WS would do anything to have ECNL girls and coaches.

Perhaps, but if the scouts are not at the ECNL games then it doesn't really matter.

That is the ultimate card that ECNL does not have.

AND even when those ECNL kids are ID'd they will be strongly encouraged to to play in a DA so that US Soccer can keep tabs on their development.

Scouts go attend ECNL games and events.

Then what's the problem?

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Anonymous wrote:It matters considerably. There are 2 girls from MYS that are now on the US Soccer National Teams from when her DD played at McLean. If she gave advantage to that team then, that would explain why MYS has more players on the YNT than any other club currently. You can debate why but MYS has the most current YNT from this area, that is a fact. Her DD played at MYS when these girls were selected, that is a fact. She was a scout then, that is a fact.

Now the her DD plays for FCV, suddenly FCV players are getting the lions share of invites, including her DD. See a pattern here? It's a major problem of biased invites along with nepotism.

This post shows the poster's ignorance of the process. The Training Centers only go up to U15 - so these MYS girls never had the opportunity to play in the GDA when they were also young enough to be at the Training Centers. Argument relative to these players is idiotic.

As for the scout...she took the job BEFORE her daughter went to the GDA. Her daughter then left MYS one year later to join the strongest team in that age group in the area.

Also, FCV had almost as many players in the Training Center before her daughter joined that club.

Are you suggesting that her daughter should have stayed on a lower team and not joined the best team she could have to please the scout's critics? That is stupid.

Are you suggesting that a career soccer person turn down a job that career soccer people would strive for to please critics that cannot and will not ever be pleased? Also stupid.

Are you suggesting that a scout should evenly distribute Training Center spots among clubs to please critics? Then what is the point of the Training Center if it is for equal participation? One could argue that GDA deserves even more spots than they receive but that the complainers are costing deserving kids these spots.

Like many posters have said, if you think your DD deserves to be in the Training Center, tell her coach. If you believe that GDA players have unfair advantages over non GDA players, then have your DD go tryout at a GDA. If you feel like the club a scouts child plays for has an unfair advantage, have your DD tryout for that team.

If you think that high school soccer is more important than playing GDA soccer, then enjoy your DD playing high school soccer and stop complaining that other players don't value it. Maybe, just maybe, if your club practices 2 or 3 times a week for 6 months of the year, your DD isn't getting better as quickly as the girls in the GDA that get 10 months of training 4 times a week without abusing their bodies from overuse in HS seasons.

The people complaining here sound pathetic. Make your choice, be happy with it and STFU.

10 month training cycle and 4 times a week really seems to be helping WSVA. Solid post here. Clearly effective training. I mean looks all of those ECNL clubs fleeing in mass to the GDA. It’s one scout and one area and one club. The entire system is not broken. Plenty of ecnl players getting into ynt camps.

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It has nothing to do with ECNL vs GDA. The fact is that while her DD was at MYS that club got the lion's share of invites including 2 players that on the YNT. MYS was ECNL and the Talent Director was a scout with US Soccer. So MYS was favored. Were they the best area team? Better than FCV and others? Okay fine.

Now her DD moves to FCV and suddenly FCV is the best area club? Those 2 YNT players still play for MYS. But FCV is suddenly the chosen club? Yes. Chosen BY HER. She is the KINGMAKER. That is CLEAR BIAS. Whatever club her DD plays for is the best. And oh by the way her DD is the best too. She gets the invite.

That is called ----------- NEPOTISM

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Anonymous wrote:It has nothing to do with ECNL vs GDA. The fact is that while her DD was at MYS that club got the lion's share of invites including 2 players that on the YNT. MYS was ECNL and the Talent Director was a scout with US Soccer. So MYS was favored. Were they the best area team? Better than FCV and others? Okay fine.

Now her DD moves to FCV and suddenly FCV is the best area club? Those 2 YNT players still play for MYS. But FCV is suddenly the chosen club? Yes. Chosen BY HER. She is the KINGMAKER. That is CLEAR BIAS. Whatever club her DD plays for is the best. And oh by the way her DD is the best too. She gets the invite.

That is called ----------- NEPOTISM

Whine, whine whine

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Anonymous wrote:It has nothing to do with ECNL vs GDA. The fact is that while her DD was at MYS that club got the lion's share of invites including 2 players that on the YNT. MYS was ECNL and the Talent Director was a scout with US Soccer. So MYS was favored. Were they the best area team? Better than FCV and others? Okay fine.

Now her DD moves to FCV and suddenly FCV is the best area club? Those 2 YNT players still play for MYS. But FCV is suddenly the chosen club? Yes. Chosen BY HER. She is the KINGMAKER. That is CLEAR BIAS. Whatever club her DD plays for is the best. And oh by the way her DD is the best too. She gets the invite.

That is called ----------- NEPOTISM

Cuckoo cuckoo.

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10 month training cycle and 4 times a week really seems to be helping WSVA. Solid post here. Clearly effective training. I mean looks all of those ECNL clubs fleeing in mass to the GDA. It’s one scout and one area and one club. The entire system is not broken. Plenty of ecnl players getting into ynt camps.

WSVAs training has paid off quickly for some of their players. Their progress is undeniable. For some others, it hasn't as quickly, and that's some of the WSVA problem. It's ironic though, WSVA took a chance on some of the players that may not have been the best bet, BUT where did these players come from? Definitely not a club that spent a whole lot of time developing them.

As a parent, I'm watching out my player first, team second, club never. If you are more concerned with your club, team before your players development, well then LOL. Enjoy the patch.