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All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.

It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment

But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.

Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies

And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.

My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.

It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.

Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.

I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?

Please keep saying the same thing over and over.
I understand how inflates you sense of self worth.
I dont know why you think its been 6 years.
But please fepeat your ideas again.

Most players start ECNL or DA U13 or U14. Basic math. Please keep posting empty responses over and over. I see that inflates your sense of self-righteousness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.
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Tha ks captain college, feel better now

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Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.

It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment

But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.

Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies

And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.

My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.

It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.

Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.

I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?

Please keep saying the same thing over and over.
I understand how inflates you sense of self worth.
I dont know why you think its been 6 years.
But please fepeat your ideas again.

Most players start ECNL or DA U13 or U14. Basic math. Please keep posting empty responses over and over. I see that inflates your sense of self-righteousness.

Just goes to show you nothi g anout my situTion.
But i know that wont stop you karen

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Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.

It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment

But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.

Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies

And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.

My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.

It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.

Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.

I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?

Please keep saying the same thing over and over.
I understand how inflates you sense of self worth.
I dont know why you think its been 6 years.
But please fepeat your ideas again.

Most players start ECNL or DA U13 or U14. Basic math. Please keep posting empty responses over and over. I see that inflates your sense of self-righteousness.

Just goes to show you nothi g anout my situTion.
But i know that wont stop you karen

Huh? I'm not Karen, and I have no clue who you are or what your situation is. We finally agree on something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court......

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Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court...... [/quote

Thats because uvas coach is great mzn and cares about all of his players.
They may not all play but ypu ccan bet the coach makes sure they know they are part of the team a d they mstter zs players and people.

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Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court...... [/quote

Thats because uvas coach is great mzn and cares about all of his players.
They may not all play but ypu ccan bet the coach makes sure they know they are part of the team a d they mstter zs players and people.

Maybe lay off the alchohol a little bit?

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Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court...... [/quote

Thats because uvas coach is great mzn and cares about all of his players.
They may not all play but ypu ccan bet the coach makes sure they know they are part of the team a d they mstter zs players and people.

Pathetic

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Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court...... [/quote




Thats because uvas coach is great mzn and cares about all of his players.
They may not all play but ypu ccan bet the coach makes sure they know they are part of the team a d they mstter zs players and people.

Pathetic

If you think the uva coa ch is pztbetic, i feel sorry for you

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Yes. Your 9 year old DD needs to learn those life lessons, so give her an empty soda can to kick around and some rocks to use as goal posts. She should also be able to register herself for the "elite" ID sessions and find a way to get there w/out any help from parents. And put it all on her credit card.

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Anonymous wrote:All DA and ECNL clubs here intend to prepare kids for college play. You get what you earn – no more, no less. If you don’t start, you are part of the team and still contribute to it. You bring something to a team. You have a role. Score. Defend properly. Be physical. Use speed to tire the opponent. Keep possession. Press their defense. Force turnovers. Be fit. Be aggressive. Win the ball in the air. Honor your commitments. Give your best. Make tackles. Win 50-50 balls. Make the save. Be coachable and do what is asked of you when it is asked of you. You should bust your ass at every practice, you should bust your ass every minute you are on the field, you should support your teammates, and you should do it all with a good attitude that has a positive impact on the team. If you can’t do all of that, you’re not cut out to be a college athlete. And in college it will be ten times worse, with 25 older, more experienced girls not wanting to give you sh*t. It might even prepare you for life.

If your DD wants ANY playing time, earn it. If she wants more, earn it. If she wants to start, earn it. God forbid if we, as parents, fail to let our kids deal with the least bit of what we perceive as adversity. Maybe they grow because of it.

A nice post! So many parents would rather blame and make excuses rather than accept the truth

! Will those UVA players on the bench moms be on anonymous forums saying the coach is this and that for not letting them on the court...... [/quote




Thats because uvas coach is great mzn and cares about all of his players.
They may not all play but ypu ccan bet the coach makes sure they know they are part of the team a d they mstter zs players and people.

Pathetic

If you think the uva coa ch is pztbetic, i feel sorry for you

No, you are pathetic. You sounded stupid before you were drunk, now you are unbearable.

[Anonymous]

Some people don't understand what time wasted is. If your daughter is on a team and doesn't play at 13 years old or 12 or whatever because shes not good enough fine! Thats not a life lesson, we're old enough to know about life lessons. If a club traps you to join a elite club then guess what? You actually think you're DD is elite level. You drive for hours for a year to not watch her play thats a life lesson? Its sad to the people that understand thats 1 year wasted that you will never get back because a club LIED. Clubs should be honest and say your D isn't good enough if you want to waste your money fine but she WILL be on the bench all year. You're saying just try it out and oh well its just a year to live and learn? And we're wrong if we pull mid season? Ok right

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Anonymous wrote:Some people don't understand what time wasted is. If your daughter is on a team and doesn't play at 13 years old or 12 or whatever because shes not good enough fine! Thats not a life lesson, we're old enough to know about life lessons. If a club traps you to join a elite club then guess what? You actually think you're DD is elite level. You drive for hours for a year to not watch her play thats a life lesson? Its sad to the people that understand thats 1 year wasted that you will never get back because a club LIED. Clubs should be honest and say your D isn't good enough if you want to waste your money fine but she WILL be on the bench all year. You're saying just try it out and oh well its just a year to live and learn? And we're wrong if we pull mid season? Ok right

Both can be right. What the issue is here is that posters like you come here telling everyone else what THEIR situation is all about while you really have no idea of each player’s situation. Hate to break it to you, but you’re far from a soccer Oracle my friend. You have so much to learn about this game and you are too arrogant to see that.

But don’t let this stop you. Tell us how you’ve touched a nerve or something else witty. You should write a book with all this knowledge. It pays better than this forum.

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Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.

It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment

But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.

Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies

And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.

My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.

It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.

Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.

I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?

You have. This is either a parent who has a DD riding pine for a “better” club than another she could start on, or someone sympathetic to the cause of concentrating talent on such a “worthy” club. There are only a few such clubs in this area, so you can guess which they are. I agree with you that it’s foolish for those who are ignored on these clubs not to seek out starting positions with other clubs. Playing in actual games is just as impactful to development than training in non-game situations. And heck, it might actually elevate the entire level of local soccer if the best 11 were starting on every elite level club in the area vs having these pockets where very good players sit.

I’m not sure otherwise why the oracles here who are trying to label you as such are trying to refute an argument that makes so much sense so loudly.