Mayim Bialik's horrific experience on GLP-1's

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Anonymous wrote:First she's a nut job and second this is true of all meds. Some people don't tolerate certain drugs. Nothing to see here.

Exactly. The page of small prints comes with every medication? It lists every bad reaction happened to someone, even if it was less than one in a million. Should we ban all medications?

I don't think anyone is saying ban, just weigh the risks.

So, you mean, consult with your physician before starting a medication (which has to be prescribed by a doctor)?

Well yeah, if it's a real consult, where if your doctor tells you that your labs are good and you don't need the medication, you're willing to accept that.

Interestingly, it was my NP who brought it up to me at 2 different annual physicals 1 year apart. My bmi was like 25.5 and only going up.

This didn’t happen. No medical professional is going to push these on you for a BMI of 25 unless your labs are horrible. The people using it at that BMI are using compounded versions that contain - well who the hell knows - in them. That should be the bigger concern, not using the actual prescriptions, but the compounded versions that aren’t as regulated.

I don't object to the compounding. These drugs are off patent or about to go off patent. The objections around compounding or generics are mostly drug companies protecting their profits. FDA oversight doesn't mean the FDA inspects every batch.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

It's disdain, not distain. I thought people were using the drugs to get healthy, not just thin. I guess you exposed that lie.

You think? It wouldn't appear that way. Not clearly, anyway. Your thought process is incredibly dysfunctional. You don't seem particularly bright.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

It's disdain, not distain. I thought people were using the drugs to get healthy, not just thin. I guess you exposed that lie.

You think? It wouldn't appear that way. Not clearly, anyway. Your thought process is incredibly dysfunctional. You don't seem particularly bright.

You don't seem particularly well read if you don't know the difference between distain/disdain so pardon me if I heavily discount anything you have to say.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

I don't care what you do but you seem to think if you just use the right insult you will shut the conversation down. There are loads of active threads on this so that doesn't seem to be going too well for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

I don't care what you do but you seem to think if you just use the right insult you will shut the conversation down. There are loads of active threads on this so that doesn't seem to be going too well for you.

Uh, are you crazy or something? I haven’t posted in this thread at all, and questioning the source is something smart people should always do, not that you’d understand that.

What is your issue? I don’t care what people discuss but I’m not going to read some hot nonsense from someone who has no credibility as a writer and take it seriously. Come back when you have an article from an actual legitimate source and stop trying to pretend your slop article is science.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

I don't care what you do but you seem to think if you just use the right insult you will shut the conversation down. There are loads of active threads on this so that doesn't seem to be going too well for you.

Uh, are you crazy or something? I haven’t posted in this thread at all, and questioning the source is something smart people should always do, not that you’d understand that.

What is your issue? I don’t care what people discuss but I’m not going to read some hot nonsense from someone who has no credibility as a writer and take it seriously. Come back when you have an article from an actual legitimate source and stop trying to pretend your slop article is science.

Are you crazy? I'm not the OP. we are all allowed to discuss any aspect of this without hall monitors trying to shut it down. I don't need to come back with anything to placate you, nutter.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

I don't care what you do but you seem to think if you just use the right insult you will shut the conversation down. There are loads of active threads on this so that doesn't seem to be going too well for you.

Uh, are you crazy or something? I haven’t posted in this thread at all, and questioning the source is something smart people should always do, not that you’d understand that.

What is your issue? I don’t care what people discuss but I’m not going to read some hot nonsense from someone who has no credibility as a writer and take it seriously. Come back when you have an article from an actual legitimate source and stop trying to pretend your slop article is science.

Are you crazy? I'm not the OP. we are all allowed to discuss any aspect of this without hall monitors trying to shut it down. I don't need to come back with anything to placate you, nutter.

Please quote exactly, word for word, where I tried to shut down the conversation in my post. I want a specific quote. Tell me exactly what words I used that — and I am quoting you directly here — “shut the conversation down.” Give me my exact words where I said that, you crazy loon. Because I know you can’t. You made that up in your fevered and clearly insane mind.

Hint: not fawning over someone with a known history of RFK-level false statements about science and health does not equate to “shutting down a conversation.” It is doing what anyone smart should do: evaluating the source.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

Not only the drugs but the gastric bypass and bands didn't work either. Bodies adapt and we'll likely see this with the drugs over time. Then we'll be on to the next craze.

My friend got a gastric sleeve in Tijuana. She lost 20 pounds in the first 3 months. She began consuming milk shakes, ice cream and other calorie laden foods which overrode her surgery. Within a year of her surgery, she basically stretched her stomach back out (or something), resumed her previous overeating habits, regained the weight lost and added 20 pounds more. Moral: people will do anything, other than address the core reasons for their overeating (which is evidenced by their relentless "food noise") to lose weight. Sadly, without significant habit changes, lifestyle changes and psychological growth, the WEIGHT ALWAYS COMES BACK.

Weight virtually always comes back regardless of lifestyle changes. 90-95% who have lost significant weight gain all or more than all of it back within 5 years.

This. If I'm going to lose and regain all my weight, I'd rather do it through healthy eating than deal with the side effects and mess up my GI system.

Or you could do it in a more effective way that takes less effort, has a way higher level of success, and for 50% of people has 0 side effects. I’m not pushing GLP-1s at all (I don’t care how you do or don’t lose weight), but most people experience no side effects at all, and the vast majority experience only mild side effects. I for one have experienced plenty of side effects from natural weight loss, including dizziness, brain fog, fatigue, coldness, and decreased sex drive.

Claiming that most people have zero side effects on GLP-1s is not supported by current studies. Most suggest the opposite (with varying rates of occurrence and levels of severity). Side effects and cost are also the reasons most commonly given for most people stopping GLP-1s at about the one-year mark.

Aside from rarer, more severe adverse effects, also concerning is that, according to a recent study in The British Medical Journal, people who come off GLP-1 drugs regain weight four times faster than (behavior-based) dieters.

Most of us understand that these drugs are helping to resolve an intractable health issue for millions, and additionally may be shown to have other substantial benefits. But downplaying or distorting the current scientific understanding of their risks and downsides is unhelpful, and likely has the opposite of your intended effect.

[Anonymous]

This thread is motivating me to give lifestyle changes and diet overhaul another chance. I suspect many of the non obese, non diabetic users of glps are going to have to go back to basics once they stop taking it or when it is regulated away for otherwise healthy people.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of you read "Mayim Bialik: My GLP-1 Nightmare" article? It's amazing and eye opening for those of us who have not jumped on this bandwagon of GLP-1's. I really think they're not preparing those for the possible massive side effects and of course no one really knows the long term side effects for those who abused the medication to lose those last 20 pesky pounds. So few doctors are speaking up but when I've questioned a new of mine they mostly all say the same those meds should be used when it's a life or death situation like severe obesity is going to end someone's life. Whatever your personal thoughts are I'm glad she put her voice out there.

Free article: https://www.thefp.com/p/mayim-bialik-glp1-side-effects

NP. I am supposed to take seriously a rabid anti-vaxxer published by Bari Weiss?

I don't care what you do but you seem to think if you just use the right insult you will shut the conversation down. There are loads of active threads on this so that doesn't seem to be going too well for you.

Uh, are you crazy or something? I haven’t posted in this thread at all, and questioning the source is something smart people should always do, not that you’d understand that.

What is your issue? I don’t care what people discuss but I’m not going to read some hot nonsense from someone who has no credibility as a writer and take it seriously. Come back when you have an article from an actual legitimate source and stop trying to pretend your slop article is science.

Are you crazy? I'm not the OP. we are all allowed to discuss any aspect of this without hall monitors trying to shut it down. I don't need to come back with anything to placate you, nutter.

Please quote exactly, word for word, where I tried to shut down the conversation in my post. I want a specific quote. Tell me exactly what words I used that — and I am quoting you directly here — “shut the conversation down.” Give me my exact words where I said that, you crazy loon. Because I know you can’t. You made that up in your fevered and clearly insane mind.

Hint: not fawning over someone with a known history of RFK-level false statements about science and health does not equate to “shutting down a conversation.” It is doing what anyone smart should do: evaluating the source.

I want, tell me, give me. Who do you think you are? Buffoon.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

It's disdain, not distain. I thought people were using the drugs to get healthy, not just thin. I guess you exposed that lie.

You think? It wouldn't appear that way. Not clearly, anyway. Your thought process is incredibly dysfunctional. You don't seem particularly bright.

You don't seem particularly well read if you don't know the difference between distain/disdain so pardon me if I heavily discount anything you have to say.

Bless your heart. Such pedantry. There we are, then.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

It's disdain, not distain. I thought people were using the drugs to get healthy, not just thin. I guess you exposed that lie.

You think? It wouldn't appear that way. Not clearly, anyway. Your thought process is incredibly dysfunctional. You don't seem particularly bright.

You don't seem particularly well read if you don't know the difference between distain/disdain so pardon me if I heavily discount anything you have to say.

Bless your heart. Such pedantry. There we are, then.

Ooh a big word you used correctly! You're learning.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

Not only the drugs but the gastric bypass and bands didn't work either. Bodies adapt and we'll likely see this with the drugs over time. Then we'll be on to the next craze.

My friend got a gastric sleeve in Tijuana. She lost 20 pounds in the first 3 months. She began consuming milk shakes, ice cream and other calorie laden foods which overrode her surgery. Within a year of her surgery, she basically stretched her stomach back out (or something), resumed her previous overeating habits, regained the weight lost and added 20 pounds more. Moral: people will do anything, other than address the core reasons for their overeating (which is evidenced by their relentless "food noise") to lose weight. Sadly, without significant habit changes, lifestyle changes and psychological growth, the WEIGHT ALWAYS COMES BACK.

Weight virtually always comes back regardless of lifestyle changes. 90-95% who have lost significant weight gain all or more than all of it back within 5 years.

This. If I'm going to lose and regain all my weight, I'd rather do it through healthy eating than deal with the side effects and mess up my GI system.

Or you could do it in a more effective way that takes less effort, has a way higher level of success, and for 50% of people has 0 side effects. I’m not pushing GLP-1s at all (I don’t care how you do or don’t lose weight), but most people experience no side effects at all, and the vast majority experience only mild side effects. I for one have experienced plenty of side effects from natural weight loss, including dizziness, brain fog, fatigue, coldness, and decreased sex drive.

Claiming that most people have zero side effects on GLP-1s is not supported by current studies. Most suggest the opposite (with varying rates of occurrence and levels of severity). Side effects and cost are also the reasons most commonly given for most people stopping GLP-1s at about the one-year mark.

Aside from rarer, more severe adverse effects, also concerning is that, according to a recent study in The British Medical Journal, people who come off GLP-1 drugs regain weight four times faster than (behavior-based) dieters.

Most of us understand that these drugs are helping to resolve an intractable health issue for millions, and additionally may be shown to have other substantial benefits. But downplaying or distorting the current scientific understanding of their risks and downsides is unhelpful, and likely has the opposite of your intended effect.

It's a temporary fix, but like everything else will not be sustainable over the long run. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

If you're not overweight or diabetic why do you want to take a GLP1??