Decision Time for DEI

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

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I watched the League of Women Voters forum last night between Walkinshaw and Whitson. This issue came up there, too. Whitson will likely lose, but he presents better than Walkinshaw.

Although, it would be funny for Rachna if Walkinshaw lost.

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Dept of Ed placing FCPS on high risk status

https://wjla.com/news/local/us-department-education-places-northern-virginia-school-districts-high-risk-status-reimbursement-payment-status-violating-title-ix-loudoun-fairfax-county-prince-william-arlington-alexandria-trans-bathroom-locker-room-gender-male#

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State Senator Roem posted the following (I didn’t cut/paste the entire post) which seems to show that the districts are following current statutes?


On August 26, 2020, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit (CA4 for short) ruled in favor of the plaintiff Gavin Grimm in the case Grimm v. Gloucester County School Board, which directly affected public schools in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

The Supreme Court of the United States declined to overturn the ruling on June 28, 2021, which means the CA4 ruling from 2020 still stands today, almost exactly five years after the decision.

In that ruling, the judges wrote, "At the heart of this appeal is whether equal protection and Title IX can protect transgender students from school bathroom policies that prohibit them from affirming their gender. We join a growing consensus of courts in holding that the answer is resoundingly yes."

You can read that ruling here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca4/19-1952/19-1952-2020-08-26.html

Today, the Prince William County School Board joined four other Northern Virginia public school systems in rejecting a demand from the federal administration to break federal and state law regarding its restroom policy for transgender and gender nonconforming students.

You can read the Prince William Times story about it here:
https://www.princewilliamtimes.com/news/breaking-prince-william-schools-keeps-its-inclusive-transgender-bathroom-rules/article_7c0f9de9-d08d-4637-a278-f7bfceb30448.html

In response, "The U.S. Department of Education said Friday that it will take action against the school districts that are defying its order to reverse their policies," according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch.
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/article_b2d32a33-6a80-4b7f-8aac-27add1ff8b64.html

However, no action from the federal administration, Congress or Supreme Court of the United States has overturned the CA4 ruling in Grimm v. Gloucester County School Board -- not even the United States v. Skrmetti decision from June 18 of this year.

What that means is, regardless of whether anyone personally supports or opposes the outcome of the ruling, public school systems in Virginia have to follow the law and the CA4 ruling is law.

In addition to that, this is also a matter of state law.

§ 2.2-3900 of the Code of Virginia -- known as the Virginia Human Rights Act -- states in Section B, Paragraph 1 that it is the policy of the Commonwealth to "Safeguard all individuals within the Commonwealth from unlawful discrimination because of race, color, religion, ethnic or national origin, sex, pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions, age, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, military status, or disability in places of public accommodation, including educational institutions and in real estate transactions."

You can read the Virginia Human Rights Act here:
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodepopularnames/virginia-human-rights-act/

Woke ruling, by a woke court at the height of the woke movement. SC will have to step in and correct. SC is going to have a very busy schedule over the next few years.

Ok, so regardless of your opinion of it being “woke” (and I’m one who agrees that biological males should not be on women teams), we agree that the school districts’ stance falls correctly under current law.

Which is why the administration has to step in and take a hard line. So that federal law (Title IX) is affirmed as the law of the land by the SC and girls/woman are protected. Fastest way to solve the problem.

Ok, but are agreeing to what Sen Roem wrote, which was to say that the districts’ policies abide by current law as they stand?

The current policies violate Federal law (Title IX) so the state statute becomes irrelevant.

Please know I’m not arguing, only asking to clarify. Doesn’t this court ruling (read the summary), say that the policies do not violate federal law?

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca4/19-1952/19-1952-2020-08-26.html

The beginning of the summary states: The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 can protect transgender students from school bathroom policies that prohibit them from affirming their gender.

Prediction: it will be overturned.

Yep it would be best to comply rather than draw the SCOTUS attention. Soon to be the law of the land. Talk about a self own.

You got a good point here!

In the meanwhile since school starts in a couple of days, FCPS students shouldn’t feel obligated to sign the SR&R because it has clauses that pertain to Title IX that are against the law. Or if they do, they can cross out anything pertaining FCPS’ erroneous application of Title IX, and then sign it. Parents can do the same. Of course, they can always apply the same MO of FCPS and request an “extension” to “review” the SR&R until November before signing it? Most likely by then these clauses will be removed because the SC will have ruled in favor of women and girls in our schools. A good lesson in civics for our students!

I have 2 teens in FCPS. I will tell them both to not sign the SR&R this year since it is in clear conflict with Title IX of the Civil Rights Act.

Isn’t signing it just an acknowledgment of having received/reviewed it?

You can either NOT sign it at all and ask for an extent until the SC rules on the issue, or cross out anything pertaining Title IX and after that sign it. By signing it as it is, you would be agreeing to the terms, which imply penalties if you disagree with trans policies in FCPS. However, if you cross out that part, (or other parts that are against the law, such as FCPS application of Title IX) you are acknowledging and agreeing to the terms for other clauses of the SR&R with the exception of what you cross out.

I don’t think so. It means you acknowledge receipt, not that you agree with it:

Hmmm - so the “responsibilities” are not responsibilities? Interesting. . .

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Anonymous wrote:Dept of Ed placing FCPS on high risk status

https://wjla.com/news/local/us-department-education-places-northern-virginia-school-districts-high-risk-status-reimbursement-payment-status-violating-title-ix-loudoun-fairfax-county-prince-william-arlington-alexandria-trans-bathroom-locker-room-gender-male#

Dang - what does this actually mean though?

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Anonymous wrote:Dept of Ed placing FCPS on high risk status

https://wjla.com/news/local/us-department-education-places-northern-virginia-school-districts-high-risk-status-reimbursement-payment-status-violating-title-ix-loudoun-fairfax-county-prince-william-arlington-alexandria-trans-bathroom-locker-room-gender-male#

Guess the abortions won't be reimbursed anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

Yeah, when the project 2025 people get a hold of it, it will be what they want the deciding factor to be. You are a fool if you believe YOU and I are deciding which issues bubble to the forefront of the race.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

Yeah, when the project 2025 people get a hold of it, it will be what they want the deciding factor to be. You are a fool if you believe YOU and I are deciding which issues bubble to the forefront of the race.

Here is a fact:
This is an issue that people understand. You cannot blame the GOP for this.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

Yeah, when the project 2025 people get a hold of it, it will be what they want the deciding factor to be. You are a fool if you believe YOU and I are deciding which issues bubble to the forefront of the race.

Here is a fact:
This is an issue that people understand. You cannot blame the GOP for this.

Can and did.

Also, I blame social media. If you are clueless about this topic, the book Careless People is an easy read that will explain to you how democracy is being overridden by technocrats and technology.

Thinking this is THE ISSUE that VOTERS are choosing just shows your ignorance about the influence of tech companies in our government

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

Yeah, when the project 2025 people get a hold of it, it will be what they want the deciding factor to be. You are a fool if you believe YOU and I are deciding which issues bubble to the forefront of the race.

Here is a fact:
This is an issue that people understand. You cannot blame the GOP for this.

Can and did.

Also, I blame social media. If you are clueless about this topic, the book Careless People is an easy read that will explain to you how democracy is being overridden by technocrats and technology.

Thinking this is THE ISSUE that VOTERS are choosing just shows your ignorance about the influence of tech companies in our government

It is an issue that demonstrates that our School Boards have no common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Dept of Ed placing FCPS on high risk status

https://wjla.com/news/local/us-department-education-places-northern-virginia-school-districts-high-risk-status-reimbursement-payment-status-violating-title-ix-loudoun-fairfax-county-prince-william-arlington-alexandria-trans-bathroom-locker-room-gender-male#

I’m still not convinced their policies aren’t legal, but I’m not a legal scholar. I don’t think boys should be on girls’ teams and I don’t think they should use girls’ restrooms, but if the 4th circuit court’s ruling is the latest, how do the policies not meet current law?

The is a conflict between VA code which includes “gender identity” and Title IX which is based on sex (XX & XY). In this case federal law supersedes state law. The 2nd circuit simple chose to ignore that and become a de facto policy maker.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, this thread shows the Republican talking points went out this afternoon. Pathetic and transparent.

The latest poll shows that the governor race is edging closer. This issue could become the deciding factor.

Yeah, when the project 2025 people get a hold of it, it will be what they want the deciding factor to be. You are a fool if you believe YOU and I are deciding which issues bubble to the forefront of the race.

Here is a fact:
This is an issue that people understand. You cannot blame the GOP for this.

Can and did.

Also, I blame social media. If you are clueless about this topic, the book Careless People is an easy read that will explain to you how democracy is being overridden by technocrats and technology.

Thinking this is THE ISSUE that VOTERS are choosing just shows your ignorance about the influence of tech companies in our government

Exactly.

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Good for fcps 👏👏👏👏

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FCPS fail 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous wrote:Dept of Ed placing FCPS on high risk status

https://wjla.com/news/local/us-department-education-places-northern-virginia-school-districts-high-risk-status-reimbursement-payment-status-violating-title-ix-loudoun-fairfax-county-prince-william-arlington-alexandria-trans-bathroom-locker-room-gender-male#

Wow. I hope FCPS is proud of itself. What utter, incompetent, idiots.