Doctors, hospitals and abortions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doctors misdiagnose sepsis often. I can literally think of dozens of cases reported on the local news, none of which occurred in pregnant women but all of which resulted in death. Mostly children, the elderly, and immunocompromized people. It’s not an abortion issue.

What a weird thing to state. Sepsis absolutely can and does happen in miscarrying pregnancies.

Please read up on this famous case that turned the tide in Ireland and eventually led to the legalization of abortion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

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Sepsis in pregnancy mostly went away when abortion became legal. I guess Republicans really felt more pain and torment was needed.

+1 There was a septic abortion ward in EVERY hospital prior to the legalization of abortion.

And this is why elderly women are furious with the GOP. They remember well what it was like before Roe. Death, ruined lives (for men too).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doctors misdiagnose sepsis often. I can literally think of dozens of cases reported on the local news, none of which occurred in pregnant women but all of which resulted in death. Mostly children, the elderly, and immunocompromized people. It’s not an abortion issue.

What a weird thing to state. Sepsis absolutely can and does happen in miscarrying pregnancies.

Please read up on this famous case that turned the tide in Ireland and eventually led to the legalization of abortion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

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Sepsis in pregnancy mostly went away when abortion became legal. I guess Republicans really felt more pain and torment was needed.

+1 There was a septic abortion ward in EVERY hospital prior to the legalization of abortion.

Yes.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/allanwei...s-of-the-pre-roe-era

In 1972 I was a third-year medical student doing my first clinical experience in obstetrics and gynecology at Cook County Hospital, a large facility in inner-city Chicago.
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At that time, Cook County had a 40-bed Septic Abortion Ward. It was a large room with the beds separated by curtains. The role of the medical student — my role for the week I was there — was to push a large cart of antibiotic solutions around the room, hang the antibiotics and connect them to the IV line, and take the patients' vital signs. When one of the patients died, I was to call the diener — the morgue attendant who collected the bodies. A death in this ward was a common occurrence.

Careful. You’re going to get the sadistic Republicans hot and bothered with all of that talk of women suffering.

[Anonymous]

Looks like Florida is trying to make the blowback on its six-week abortion ban go away. Yet another example of why it’s not a good idea for the government to interfere in the first place.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4889458...icials-abortion/amp/

[Anonymous]

In a notice to providers, the Florida Department of Health and the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) said Florida “requires life-saving medical care to a mother without delay when necessary.”

AGs and governors have already declared a witch hunt against doctor. They made a political play to put doctors on notice.

Who gets to make the call of "when necessary?" If there is disagreement, does the prosecutor or judge without medical training decide that it was necessary, or do they defer to the defendant with medical training? Are they still going to suspend the doctor's credentials, their licenses, while they undertake their investigations?

As a doctor, you can try to deal with this, or you can leave (or never go there) to instead work somewhere where you are free to do the work you were trained to do without ignorant interference.

There is no law forcing doctors to work in red states, Not yet. Are they going to try to change that, too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In a notice to providers, the Florida Department of Health and the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) said Florida “requires life-saving medical care to a mother without delay when necessary.”

AGs and governors have already declared a witch hunt against doctor. They made a political play to put doctors on notice.

Who gets to make the call of "when necessary?" If there is disagreement, does the prosecutor or judge without medical training decide that it was necessary, or do they defer to the defendant with medical training? Are they still going to suspend the doctor's credentials, their licenses, while they undertake their investigations?

As a doctor, you can try to deal with this, or you can leave (or never go there) to instead work somewhere where you are free to do the work you were trained to do without ignorant interference.

There is no law forcing doctors to work in red states, Not yet. Are they going to try to change that, too?

Related to how the GOP plans to make this hellscape a reality even if Democrats win: GoGo Boots Desantis has said he won’t let Democrats into office in Florida if they win. Setting aside, briefly, the fact that human rights should not be on a state by state basis, how is it even “states’ rights” when the GOP is smacking down what people have voted for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In a notice to providers, the Florida Department of Health and the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) said Florida “requires life-saving medical care to a mother without delay when necessary.”

AGs and governors have already declared a witch hunt against doctor. They made a political play to put doctors on notice.

Who gets to make the call of "when necessary?" If there is disagreement, does the prosecutor or judge without medical training decide that it was necessary, or do they defer to the defendant with medical training? Are they still going to suspend the doctor's credentials, their licenses, while they undertake their investigations?

As a doctor, you can try to deal with this, or you can leave (or never go there) to instead work somewhere where you are free to do the work you were trained to do without ignorant interference.

There is no law forcing doctors to work in red states, Not yet. Are they going to try to change that, too?

Related to how the GOP plans to make this hellscape a reality even if Democrats win: GoGo Boots Desantis has said he won’t let Democrats into office in Florida if they win. Setting aside, briefly, the fact that human rights should not be on a state by state basis, how is it even “states’ rights” when the GOP is smacking down what people have voted for?

They were all "leave it up to the states" until every single referendum on abortion rights went the wrong way for them, even Kansas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In a notice to providers, the Florida Department of Health and the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) said Florida “requires life-saving medical care to a mother without delay when necessary.”

AGs and governors have already declared a witch hunt against doctor. They made a political play to put doctors on notice.

Who gets to make the call of "when necessary?" If there is disagreement, does the prosecutor or judge without medical training decide that it was necessary, or do they defer to the defendant with medical training? Are they still going to suspend the doctor's credentials, their licenses, while they undertake their investigations?

As a doctor, you can try to deal with this, or you can leave (or never go there) to instead work somewhere where you are free to do the work you were trained to do without ignorant interference.

There is no law forcing doctors to work in red states, Not yet. Are they going to try to change that, too?

Related to how the GOP plans to make this hellscape a reality even if Democrats win: GoGo Boots Desantis has said he won’t let Democrats into office in Florida if they win. Setting aside, briefly, the fact that human rights should not be on a state by state basis, how is it even “states’ rights” when the GOP is smacking down what people have voted for?

They were all "leave it up to the states" until every single referendum on abortion rights went the wrong way for them, even Kansas.

Thus proving that their flimsy claims were worthless.

[Anonymous]

It's not about decreasing the number abortions alone.

It's not about leaving it up to the people to decide within each state.

What it really is about is gross, and ugly, and it smells of rot and misogyny.