Doctors, hospitals and abortions

[Anonymous]

Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

[Anonymous]

The doctors have an out. They "reasonably" followed GOP forced birther laws.

This is what happens when lawyers look over doctors' shoulders and think they know better than doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

Doctors are not lawyers.
OB/GYNs pay the highest medical malpractice rates as it is.

The GOP has proudly declared that it will hunt down and destroy women who obtain abortions and anyone who helps them do so.

It’s not always clear in an emergency situation what is going on.

If a patient “may” have taken abortifacients, few doctors will take the chance on helping her finish the job.

If you vote GOP, you own this.

[Anonymous]

"how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law "

1. Old OBs retire.

2. New doctors avoid OB

3. Women endure pregnancy without medical suport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

Forced birther states have said, in varying ways across the states, that they’ll sue the doctors, go after their licensure, try them for murder, etc. Why do you think OB/GYNs are leaving the forced birther states in droves? They’re no longer allowed to practice medicine, they’re living out the forced birthers’ religious beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

The Supreme Court will not let it happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

The GOP can have the physician arrested and/or harassed, immediately.

The woman’s family has to find a lawyer and pursue a possible medical malpractice case.

Pay me now, pay me later. Most would choose later since it will likely never happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

Doctors are not lawyers.
OB/GYNs pay the highest medical malpractice rates as it is.

The GOP has proudly declared that it will hunt down and destroy women who obtain abortions and anyone who helps them do so.

It’s not always clear in an emergency situation what is going on.

If a patient “may” have taken abortifacients, few doctors will take the chance on helping her finish the job.

If you vote GOP, you own this.

I would never vote GOP. In that case it was very clear it was a medical emergency.

[Anonymous]

Which goes back to the question. What the hell can Democrats do at this point to fix any of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which goes back to the question. What the hell can Democrats do at this point to fix any of it?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228237.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

Doctors are not lawyers.
OB/GYNs pay the highest medical malpractice rates as it is.

The GOP has proudly declared that it will hunt down and destroy women who obtain abortions and anyone who helps them do so.

It’s not always clear in an emergency situation what is going on.

If a patient “may” have taken abortifacients, few doctors will take the chance on helping her finish the job.

If you vote GOP, you own this.

I would never vote GOP. In that case it was very clear it was a medical emergency.

The point is the bolded. There will many more such medical emergencies.

Welcome to Trump’s achievement of overturning Roe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which goes back to the question. What the hell can Democrats do at this point to fix any of it?

Do everything possible to get Harris and as many democratic legislators as possible elected. Harris will make this a priority issue and needs as much legislative support as possible.

Trump will sign federal legislation implementing a national abortion ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which goes back to the question. What the hell can Democrats do at this point to fix any of it?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228237.page

For one thing, a sitting POTUS can talk about these cases every day. Every single day, she can make it clear what overturning Roe actually did to families. That’s where change begins.

A sitting POTUS also has tremendous influence over judges at every level.

And she can keep from making it worse. It can get much, much worse.

[Anonymous]

This is the first of what are likely many similar cases that will end up coming to light.
Investigation into maternal deaths takes time. Some states (i.e., TX) now have a vested interest in not actively pursuing investigations and studies in maternal mortality rates. And some families will be hesitant to come forward publicly about their losses.
Already, there are multiple stories of women who have suffered permanent loss of fertility due to lack of appropriate medical care. At least one or 2 of the women involved in the lawsuit down in TX ended up needing hysterectomies due to hemorrhage and/or sepsis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how refusing to care for a woman for fear of repercussions due to new GOP anti abortion laws doesn't mean doctors will be sued for letting this woman die by not intervening to save her? The woman was septic and the OB was notified of it but nothing was done for hours. I understand GOP are at fault for creating this situation obviously, but trying to understand how a doctor weighs legal repercussions from the new law as more important than legal repercussions from failure to treat this woman and essentially killing her by delaying care.

https://www.newsweek.com/amber-thurman-preventable-abortion-death-georgia-1954945

Doctors are not lawyers.
OB/GYNs pay the highest medical malpractice rates as it is.

The GOP has proudly declared that it will hunt down and destroy women who obtain abortions and anyone who helps them do so.

It’s not always clear in an emergency situation what is going on.

If a patient “may” have taken abortifacients, few doctors will take the chance on helping her finish the job.

If you vote GOP, you own this.

I would never vote GOP. In that case it was very clear it was a medical emergency.

"Clear" is subjective. Kate Cox and her doctor also thought it was pretty clear that she needed an abortion, but the TX AG and the courts said nope.